[1.3] Kerbal Wind (R13, 2017-08-14)

[MadTux]

Any more 1.3 updates?

[DaMichel]

Hi.

I compiled the mod for 1.3 and fixed a null reference bug along the way.

There is just a little caveat. FAR does not appear to officially support 1.3 yet. You can either attempt to run FAR with 1.3, or run my 1.3 binary with KSP 1.2. Personally, I tried the ksp_update branch of FAR but that seems to be quite bugged at the time.

The CKAN version update has to wait until FAR is listed for 1.3.

Edited August 14, 2017 by DaMichel

[ss8913]

13 minutes ago, DaMichel said:

Hi.

I compiled the mod for 1.3 and fixed a null reference bug along the way.

There is just a little caveat. FAR does not appear to officially support 1.3 yet. You can either attempt to run FAR with 1.3, or run my 1.3 binary with KSP 1.2. Personally, I tried the ksp_update branch of FAR but that seems to be quite bugged at the time.

The CKAN version update has to wait until FAR is listed for 1.3.

The current dev build of far works 100% for me and has since 1.3 was released.

 

[Azimech]

31 minutes ago, DaMichel said:

Hi.

I compiled the mod for 1.3 and fixed a null reference bug along the way.

There is just a little caveat. FAR does not appear to officially support 1.3 yet. You can either attempt to run FAR with 1.3, or run my 1.3 binary with KSP 1.2. Personally, I tried the ksp_update branch of FAR but that seems to be quite bugged at the time.

The CKAN version update has to wait until FAR is listed for 1.3.

Fantastic news! Thanks!

[Rodhern]

35 minutes ago, ss8913 said:

The current dev build of far works 100% for me and has since 1.3 was released.

Seems to work well for me too, as far as I can tell.

[Azimech]

Well ... I'm not too stupid but I've just spent 2 hours trying to find a FAR dev build for 1.3, then trying to get things to work. It doesn't, crashes during startup. Probably the wrong build, I'm 100% done with this.

And if I'm having trouble with finding & installing this, lots more people will have this, really limiting the potential of this mod. I spent two hours. The average player is fed up with this in 5 minutes.

So I'm wondering, wouldn't it be more useful to compile a version for KSP 1.2.2 since that one is fully FAR supported?

Edited August 16, 2017 by Azimech

[Rodhern]

Thank you for the mod; it is a nice addition to FAR. I had anticipated that the wind would not change game play by much, seeing that most kerbal airplanes are fast. My thought was that if a plane travels say 90 m/s then you would probably not notice an 8 m/s crosswind. I was wrong. The wind brakes the perfect landing performance symmetry of your typical airplane quite nicely.

[ss8913]

On 5/27/2015 at 4:03 PM, chakim17 said:

Can you please make a version for stock aerodynamics.

no, stock aero doesn't support wind at all.  this mod hooks into facilities within FAR to provide wind.  Most of the 'work' is done by code inside FAR that this mod is invoking.  why not just install FAR?

[DaMichel]

On 8/16/2017 at 11:54 AM, Azimech said:

So I'm wondering, wouldn't it be more useful to compile a version for KSP 1.2.2 since that one is fully FAR supported?

I was going to do that after having downgraded my KSP to 1.2.2.

However, I found that my lasted build also works fine in 1.2.2 (and regular FAR release). Let me know if it does not work for you or anyone else.

 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2017 by DaMichel

[Azimech]

25 minutes ago, DaMichel said:

I was going to do that after having downgraded my KSP to 1.2.2.

However, I found that my lasted build also works fine in 1.2.2 (and regular FAR release). Let me know if it does not work for you or anyone else.

 

 

 

 

It works! :-)

Now if you could somehow introduce a random number generator to make the wind change slowly over time automatically, there would be a real incentive to check the forecast and also to build sailing ships. No need to build a complete weather system this way.

[raxo2222]

Why CKAN says this mod is for 1.1 ?

Is it possible to add vertical wind/turbulence?

For reference there is wind classifications and their speeds (copied from wiki).

87 m/s of sustained wind was maximum record for hurricanes.

It seems like dynamic pressure (and reentry heating for extreme airspeed) doesn't take in account wind speed.

Beaufort Wind Scale

0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
Calm	Light Air	Light Breeze	Gentle Breeze	Moderate Breeze	Fresh Breeze	Strong Breeze	Near Gale	Gale	Strong Gale	Storm	Violent Storm	Hurricane Force
Light Winds						High Winds		Gale-force		Storm-force		Hurricane-force
<1 mph <1 knot <0.3 m/s	1–3 mph 1–3 knots 0.3–1.5 m/s	4–7 mph 4–6 knots 1.6–3.3 m/s	8–12 mph 7–10 knots 3.4–5.5 m/s	13–18 mph 11–16 knots 5.5–7.9 m/s	18–24 mph 17–21 knots 8.0–10.7 m/s	25–31 mph 22–27 knots 10.8–13.8 m/s	31–38 mph 28–33 knots 13.9–17.1 m/s	39–46 mph 34–40 knots 17.2–20.7 m/s	47-54 mph 41–47 knots 20.8–24.4 m/s	55–63 mph 48–55 knots 24.5–28.4 m/s	64–72 mph 56–63 knots 28.5–32.6 m/s	≥73 mph ≥63 knots ≥32.7 m/s

 

Five	≥70 m/s, ≥137 knots, ≥157 mph, ≥252 km/h
Four	58–70 m/s, 113–136 knots, 130–156 mph, 209–251 km/h
Three	50–58 m/s, 96–112 knots, 111–129 mph, 178–208 km/h
Two	43–49 m/s, 83–95 knots, 96–110 mph, 154–177 km/h
One	33–42 m/s, 64–82 knots, 74–95 mph, 119–153 km/h

Related classifications

Tropical storm	18–32 m/s, 34–63 knots, 39–73 mph, 63–118 km/h
Tropical depression	≤17 m/s, ≤33 knots, ≤38 mph, ≤62 km/h

Edited September 10, 2017 by raxo2222

[ss8913]

I'm honestly not sure this mod is working at all... I have it, plus FAR of course, installed.. no matter how I set the wind, my indicated airspeed (IAS) always shows 0 on the ground, which shouldn't be true in a headwind.

[Rodhern]

13 hours ago, ss8913 said:

I'm honestly not sure this mod is working at all... I have it, plus FAR of course, installed.. no matter how I set the wind, my indicated airspeed (IAS) always shows 0 on the ground, which shouldn't be true in a headwind.

Where do you read the IAS, maybe the problem is with you instrument(?). For what it is worth the mod works for me (well, did in KSP 1.3.0; don't know about 1.3.1 yet).

[ss8913]

4 hours ago, Rodhern said:

Where do you read the IAS, maybe the problem is with you instrument(?). For what it is worth the mod works for me (well, did in KSP 1.3.0; don't know about 1.3.1 yet).

on the navball.. I have FAR set to display surface velocity in knots IAS (KIAS) like a real [human] aircraft does.

[Rodhern]

1 minute ago, ss8913 said:

on the navball.. I have FAR set to display surface velocity in knots IAS (KIAS) like a real [human] aircraft does.

Ah, ok. To me that sounds like it is maybe a (minor) bug in FAR that it emphasizes 'surface velocity' more than 'indicated speed'. Maybe someone more experienced with FAR can tell if this is the kind of thing that warrants a Github issue (bug report).

[ss8913]

On 10/6/2017 at 2:59 PM, Rodhern said:

Ah, ok. To me that sounds like it is maybe a (minor) bug in FAR that it emphasizes 'surface velocity' more than 'indicated speed'. Maybe someone more experienced with FAR can tell if this is the kind of thing that warrants a Github issue (bug report).

possibly.. I have it set to indicated airspeed, not ground speed, so I wouldn't think so...?  This mod is just a UI to enable FAR's wind system anyway, so I'd think FAR would be in control of it end to end.. I'll ask on that forum.

[ss8913]

still not convinced that it's doing anything.. I can set a wind of any magnitude, and a craft returning to Kerbin via parachute will end up with 0.0 m/s horizontal velocity just before touchdown.. which can only happen if there's no wind.. which can only happen if the mod isn't actually doing anything, despite the UI working and it being configured to produce wind.

[Tiber9]

Thanks for this mod! I just tried it for the first time the other day and made a ridiculous 14 tonne rc land-catamaran that tacks at 70mps. :-)

[aluc24]

@Azimech , wonderful mod! Please tell me, does it support random wind, like a part of background weather? If so, are all planets with atmosphere supported?

[DaMichel]

It incompletely implements some standard model of gusty wind. Magnitude of turbulence can be set via the gui. But there are no large scale global variations of the wind like the Kerbal weather simulation mod does it.

Second question: Probably. I don't recall making any specific references to Kerbin.

Edited January 22, 2018 by DaMichel

[Azimech]

This thread needs to be kept alive, IMHO.

[lajoswinkler]

Does anyone still use this mod in the latest v1.5.1? Any problems to report?