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Sorry had to fix this for you, since Yoda said: "Do, or do not, there is no try!".

And sorry, not really, but I a Ketheist and do not believe your works of fiction. :sticktongue:Also tl:dr to be honest. :blush:

Sorry I had to fix this for you "Kaetheist". He did use the word seriously and who does believe works of fiction?

Thread is cooked, stick a fork in it.

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Sorry had to fix this for you, since Yoda said: "Do, or do not, there is no try!".

And sorry, not really, but I a Ketheist and do not believe your works of fiction. :sticktongue:Also tl:dr to be honest. :blush:

Examine the grammar of Ketheist. This would mean a theist of Kethane or something. Try Akerbatheist. The "A" means "Anti"

Not to be confused with the Antijeb. :P

*is also an atheist*

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Excellent example! But wait, if you are a purist how is this not an exploit, If I make a really tall rocket I have to build XL MGS and then strut to other XL MGS to stabilize this.

Think about this, I can now use these interstage struts, make then 10 times stronger than the EAS-4 and by pass alot of parts, lag issue, etc. (BTW I stated in this forum that the strut connectors need to be refined, its time)

wot? Those are stock struts. What's the problem with using stock struts with other stock parts in a way that is aerodynamic and does not clip at all?

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In my opinion, this gem exemplifies just how incomprehensible and fascinating this thread is.

I'm gonna get me some popcorn. Be right back.

It's not the clearest sentence but I think understand the point PB666 is trying to make. He's saying that mods can deepen your understanding of the shortcomings of the game, make it more realistic, and help you understand real life rocketry to some greater degree.

Excellent example! But wait, if you are a purist how is this not an exploit, If I make a really tall rocket I have to build XL MGS and then strut to other XL MGS to stabilize this.

Think about this, I can now use these interstage struts, make then 10 times stronger than the EAS-4 and by pass alot of parts, lag issue, etc. (BTW I stated in this forum that the strut connectors need to be refined, its time)

Okay, well since everyone has their popcorn, I might as well respond...

Like I said before, it takes some judgment and discretion when determining whether any particular approach would be considered cheating. In my opinion, putting a bunch of struts on a rocket doesn't change the nature of the game enough to consider it an exploit. The parts were included by the game developer, and are being used in their intended purpose.

Plop my payload on top and strut the radials (Nacells and other lateral projections) to the rim of the tank, SSTO. Its no different from using unlimited fuel.

And here's where I would disagree. Using more fuel tanks and more engines seems to me to be perfectly within the game parameters. Are you really telling me that you can't distinguish the difference between that and enabling the Unlimited Fuel option in the context of gameplay?

Unlimited Fuel removes all of the design challenge of the game with a single stroke. You no longer have to consider the best engine to use, determine how much fuel you need, how many stages you need (or even any stages). You could literally slap a Mk-1 command module on a FL-T100 and a LV-909 and land and return from every single celestial body in the game in a single launch.

I think of "cheating/exploiting" and "fair" as more of a continuum than a black or white binary. You can certainly draw the line somewhere if you want, but different people are going to place that line at different points on the continuum and even disagree as to where on the continuum something is.

Here's an analogy: In sport rock climbing, chalk is allowed and special shoes with extra grippy rubber soles are also allowed. Those two things are technological advantages that helps you climb better vs. climbing naked, and yet are allowed in the sport because the sport is defined that way. Ladders, however, are not allowed. Neither are helicopters. The only thing they have in common with shoes and chalk are that they're technological advantages that help you get to the topout more easily. But using either means you're just not rock climbing.

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I would tell people to get back to the point of the thread, except I haven't been able to figure out what that is. PB666, if there is a point you wish to make, please phrase it more clearly and start a new thread, because this one has gone off the rails.

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