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tl;dw: Approximately 15 orange tanks tall and 13 orange tanks across. The orange ring on the floor of the VAB is roughly the maximum width of your rockets.

I experiment with the equivalent of orange tanks to find out.

I have a solution: Go to C:\Users\{whoever you are]\AppData\LocalLow\Intercept Games\Kerbal Space Program 2 and delete the entire contents. Then, verify the integrity of game files, just to be safe. When you restart the game, it'll present the EULA and intro video like a new install, but after that the VAB should work as usual.

I was in the VAB building a rocket when the game crashed so hard that my PC rebooted. After I recovered from the crash, I discovered that the VAB is broken. Specifically, if I go to enter the VAB, I see the interior view, but instead of any of the build UI, I have the menu for entering the VAB, Training Center, etc. Clicking on "VAB" from here does nothing. Clicking the other options, like the Tracking station, also shows the inside of the VAB. I uninstalled and re-installed KSP2, but the problem remains. See screenshot. I'm happy to provide logs and other details as requested. Thanks.

UPDATE: KSP Forum user cubinator beat me to the punch! Never mind my challenge, go check out his! Sound: The Rule by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4506-the-rule License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Hot Swing by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3885-hot-swing License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license "Bike, Bell Ding, Single, 01-01.wav" by InspectorJ (www.jshaw.co.uk) of Freesound.org Amazing Plan - Distressed by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3357-amazing-plan---distressed License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Ecossaise in E-flat (WoO 86) by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3700-ecossaise-in-e-flat-woo-86- License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license The Curtain Rises by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5007-the-curtain-rises License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Friendly Day by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3779-friendly-day License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Darn it, I was going to announce a challenge for this today! Congratulations for beating me to the punch! And I'm amazed at everyone who's managed to far outstrip what I managed to do!

The UKS Katabasis went on its maiden voyage to Dres for the first ever Kerbal exploration of that tiny grey world. But there turned out to be a slight miscalculation... Mods: Near Future Technologies https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/155465-110x-near-future-technologies-all-110-nfa-returns/ ReStock/ReStock+ https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/182679-1101-restock-revamping-ksps-art-finally-updated-for-110/ Music: Crusade by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3567-crusade License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Flutey Funk by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3768-flutey-funk License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

The UKS Katabasis went on its maiden voyage to Dres for the first ever Kerbal exploration of that tiny grey world. But there turned out to be a slight miscalculation... Mods: Near Future Technologies https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/155465-110x-near-future-technologies-all-110-nfa-returns/ Music: Crusade by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3567-crusade License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Flutey Funk by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3768-flutey-funk License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

I just noticed I hit 200 subscribers on my YouTube channel! YAY! Thanks to everyone who's supported my weird little channel. Now, to commemorate the occasion with an old favorite from 2015... with a twist. Old Favorite: Noodle Rocket Ballet Twist: "Every SoundCloud Metal Song Ever (With The Ultimate D)" - Andri from Pagefire Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 https://soundcloud.com/nerdymetalhead202/every-soundcloud-metal-song-ever-with-the-ultimate-d

I just noticed I hit 200 subscribers on YouTube! YAY! Thanks to everyone who's supported my weird little channel. Now, to commemorate the occasion with an old favorite from 2015... with a twist. Old Favorite: Noodle Rocket Ballet Twist: "Every SoundCloud Metal Song Ever (With The Ultimate D)" - Andri from Pagefire Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 https://soundcloud.com/nerdymetalhead202/every-soundcloud-metal-song-ever-with-the-ultimate-d

Me likey.

I updated Moho's flag. Moho, Dres, and Eeloo looked too similar, so I reversed Moho's colors to differentiate it more.

I've been wanting more flags but also wanted something that would fit in better with a game featuring little green aliens. There is also a certain amount of semantic cohesion. Terrestrial planets are hexagons with triangle insets, while gas giants are hexagons with bands. Massive moons are relatively large squared diamonds, while tiny moons are little squared diamonds. The alien text is actually reversed English or Latin using the Wintermute font. The result looks vaguely but not quite like Hebrew. The other two flags (which, yes, aren't reversed and don't use Wintermute, don't @ me) is my personal KSP YouTube brand, and I included them for completeness. And of course, there's my Jeb flag. Because of course Jeb has his own flag. I made these flags for my own KSP install, but if there's enough demand, I'll put together an installation bundle and maybe put it on CKAN. Let me know what you think!

TBH the whole idea that you have to go on EVA, or have a storage container, to perform multiple crew reports never struck me as a good idea for gameplay. It's unrealistic and grindy. The only purpose I can see for it is to force players to go on EVA and motivate them to upgrade the Astronaut Complex as early as possible, and I can't help but think there are better ways to encourage EVAs. That said, I'm really glad to see this mod resurface. Thanks, @linuxgurugamer, yet again!

I'd argue that it'd only seem like an absolute reference frame from the perspective of the the KSC, which is where you'd be spending the bulk of your time. I wonder if it'd make sense to switch reference frames between the active ship and the KSC, but no other objects in the game.

I think I'd rather see it baked into the stock game, personally. Forward-thinking is not a bad thing in game design, especially if the game is designed with modding in mind--and KSP2 is claiming to have enhanced modding support. And to be clear, I'm not even talking about adding time dilation, only an upper speed limit and possibly nerfing acceleration as you approach the limit.

I personally think that will be part of the challenge, and would be most educational on its own. After all, this is a problem that all interstellar flight will need to reckon with.

Maybe so, but I'm pretty sure that some KSP player with a bad reputation for doing horrible things with the game will figure out something. For once, I'm *not* including me in those ranks... although I don't know if I'll be able to withstand the temptation forever. Also, what do you think about Cydonian_Monk's comments about what n-body physics might do?

Yeah, no worries, but the discussion of this thread is about game physics, so while this is all kinda off-topic, it's still relevant. Especially if.... ...which would be REALLY INTERESTING if you had, say, a colony there at the time. Shades of Space: 1999 there, with a side of Einstein spinning in his grave.

Yes, I'm aware of the rocket equation, which is why I phrased it like that. I dunno, I admit that the whole argument from impracticality is still dissatisfying. But it's getting harder to put my thumb on what exactly about it is not satisfying. I still find myself wanting, if nothing else, the option to throttle vessel speeds to simulate relativistic effects on ships, just in case. Flipping? How so? You mean moving out its orbit? I admit, Jool's SOI is pretty big, and the moons are very close in. And wouldn't even minor instabilities amplify over time? Or does it amount to such ridiculous levels of deep time that no KSP player has, or *can*, experience it, even if they left the game open on top warp for decades?

I'm expecting Whackjob's Glorious Return to be a cluster of over 100 Daedalus engines taking off from Kerbin's surface. (It's "over 100" because he lost count, understandably.) ... *takes off sunglasses* That's... absolutely brilliant. Doesn't that imply changes in the Chandrasekhar limit and changed effects on a number of other celestial objects which aren't currently planned to be included in stock KSP2? DON'T WORRY, SCIENTIST BRAIN, I'LL SAVE YOU!!! *builds a rocket for a scientist rescue mission* Would we be able to have a stable Kerbolar system and maintain current orbits and gravitational accelerations if KSP2 had N-body physics? We'd need a lot of planets to have harmonic resonances with one another, right?

Integrating a notification/warning system like that would be very handy in general, and the deeper it is integrated into the stock game, the better. I'd definitely want a tab in either the flight view or map view that shows me upcoming events--not just maneuver nodes but arbitrarily set values like transfer windows or even RL events like, "Save the game and get some fresh air, you've been at it for six hours straight, yeesh!" I know many players prefer to fly one mission at a time, but I figure that a sufficiently advanced space agency will have multiple missions going at a given time, with dedicated resources. Without KAC in KSP1, I'd lose my mind, not to mention, my contracts. So yeah, fully agreed on that point. I'd say they should add that even if they make it relatively easy to fly from one star to another in a single gaming session, or throttle contracts to force you to complete only a few at a time at all stages of gameplay, or what-have-you. *mutters under her breath* I still want speed caps, darn it.

That's actually part of my concern. In stock career mode, if you get caught up in a long-term mission without paying attention to the rest of the game, you can have contracts expire, transfer windows missed, and in some cases, slingshotting if you're not careful to avoid your ship's orbit passing too close to a body with an SOI. I can only imagine these issues amplifying once space travel is measured in terms of decades or centuries.

Those are fair points. I just don't think we can presume that KSP2 developers will nerf Orion/Daedalus engines by default. Also, I half-expect someone to create a Whackjob-inspired monstrosity. Although the overall mass if the ship, including fuel, may prevent sizable fractions of the speed of light, I can't rule out someone finding a way to kludge around that. Maybe I *am* making much ado about nothing in the end, but all the same, this is the kind of thing I think about, maybe to the point of obsession, when playing games like this. Please don't get me started about Kerbin's density.

For me it has more to do with setting the realistic expectation that traveling between stars takes a lot more time than it would between planets. I agree that, for gameplay purposes, the developers may decide this is too much of a complication to add in. I'm not sure we can presume that Orion/Daedalus derived parts will only reach speeds in the neighborhood of 0.1c, however. The devs could decide that speeds that would be relativistic in the real world is the more practical approach, and that could occur even if the galaxy is scaled down similar to the way the original solar system is. I'm sure a modder will add some sort of FTL drive, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the first mods for KSP2 is a variant of the Alcubierre drive.