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    Skylab 18 | SLM-17 | STS-28 | October 3 - 11 | 1985

    Columbia Strikes Back!

     

    Orbiter: OV-102 | Columbia

     

    Columbia returns to flight after nearly 2 years of being down due to orbiter mantience and major modifications to the orbiter some of those major modifications include the removal of HRSI tiles on the payload bay of the orbiter, and an STILS pod (an infrared camera for observing reentry heating on the orbiter). The removal of HRSI on the payload bay reduces weight, complexity, and turnaround time for Columbia, Challenger will also eventually get these modifications. This mission will be an oridinary visit to the station to perform various science experiments. With Space Shuttle Columbia being part of the orbiters capable of visiting Skylab again, flight rate in the Skylab program will increase. Space Shuttle Unity (OV-104) however will not get the modifications (APAS-75 Docking adapter) needed to visit the station as the orbiter will need to keep a payload bay with all its space available for missions that need it. 

     

     

     

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    Liftoff of Columbia as she rises again on her return to the Skylab program.

     

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    Luna

     

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    Roll program complete!

     

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    Solid booster sep

     

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    External Tank Sep

     

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    Columbia opens her doors.

     

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    Rendezvous burn to Skylab.

     

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    Columbia nearing Skylab

     

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    Docking Approach

     

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    Soft dock

     

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    Hard dock to Skylab, the crew will now remain at the station for days performing sciences from ESA, USA, and other partners.

     

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    Columbia undocks from the station landing at KSC hours later.

  2. 16 hours ago, Raptor22 said:

    Where were you able to get the Martin Marietta Shuttle Derived Vehicle Space Station proposal drawings from? I tried looking it up on Google, but a cursory search hasn't yielded any results. I'm guessing it's on some obscure database somewhere?

    Should be able to search them on NTRS or Archive.org and find them, I have no idea where I placed the documents lol

     

    8 hours ago, Adam-Kerman said:

    Out of curiosity, I remember someone posted / shared in google drive, shuttle decals of like yellow umbilical port and etc. 

    So guess looking for them again

    The ones I use were made by a friend, can't remember the link for the ones you're talking about 

     

    5 hours ago, Lil_Bread402 said:

    Really hope Skylab can get a lifeboat at some point.................. Maybe even an international one....................................

    ;) 

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    Skylab 17 | SLM-16 | STS-26 | August 25 - September 2 | 1985

     

     

     

    Orbiter: OV-099 | Challenger

     

    Challenger starts it off with a return to Skylab, on this mission after Challenger docks with Skylab, the crew will deploy a second Spacelab module and remotely free-fly it and dock it to the MDIM port on Skylab. This module is similar to the previously attached Spacelab module (built and modified by ESA for long-term stay in space) but half the size and with a Spacelab Pallet (SLP) permanently attached to the module. This Spacelab Experiment module is equipped with many different science kits built in countries across Europe, two of the main science kits on the SLP contain a new Telescope with similar imaging to the Hubble Telescope to replace the aging Apollo Telescope Mount and an Earth observation camera. This Spacelab was chosen to be free-flown due to the risks of TRS being around hardware and poor attachment methods.

     

    Martin Marietta has proposed their station design for the future Space Station naming it "Shuttle Derived Vehicle Space Station (SDV)" This design takes aspects gained from Skylab, uses an ET Derived module as the core of the station with propellant storage for Centaurs, and a hangar based on the future Skylab truss for orbit assembly.  Martin Marietta stated this station can be completed by 1995, a very optimistic time as Skylab is expected to end its program then. With more news from Martin Marietta, the company has produced a slightly modified External Tank with retro SRMs for deorbiting after being left in a circular orbit unlike normal launches, this ET will help with plans for ET reuse and Aft Cargo Carrier, and it is likely to fly on the first Shuttle launch from Vandenberg SLC-6 next year.

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    Challenger rises again for her trip to Skylab

     

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    SSME gimbal

     

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    Liftoff!

     

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    Tower cleared and roll program!

     

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    Solid Rocket Booster separation

     

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    The Spacelab module and its instruments are visible while Challenger opens her payload bay doors

     

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    Dark side while awaiting Skylab arrival

     

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    Approaching the docking node

     

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    Challenger hard docks to Skylab

     

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    Preparing to release the Spacelab module

     

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    "It looks strange seeing it fly on its own like that"

     

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    Free-flying king

     

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    Soft dock with Skylab

     

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    Skylab with her two Spacelab modules

     

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    Instrument deployment

     

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    Challenger departs

     

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    After departing from Skylab, Challenger returned home landing at Kennedy Space Center

  4. 40 minutes ago, Kerbalsaurus said:

    The Space Shuttle also had a capacity of about 27 tons to LEO, and the regular Apollo CSM had a dry mass of about 12 tons. Once again, the Apollo Block III would most likely weigh less so the Space Shuttle’s definitely more than capable of carrying it to space. However, the dimensions of @TruthfulGnome’s mods may not be 1:1 with real life, but who knows. Maybe he will include it.

    It's cool but won't be happening, 1987 will be interesting surrounding that topic so watch out ;)

  5. Skylab 16 | SLM-15 | STS-24 | June 17 - 27 | 1985

     

     

     

    Orbiter: OV-103 | Discovery

     

     

    With Discovery's first flight in the Skylab program ending in high success, she is ready to take to the skies again for another mission to Skylab. On this mission, Discovery's crew will deploy a TRS (Teleoperator Retrieval System) based satellite into orbit attached to an IUS stage and dock to Skylab to perform sciences and experiments days later. In other developments, the airlock intended to be attached to the Skylab station in 1986 has faced problems and has been pushed back to 1987 and SRB-X is promised to launch in 1989.

    Due to the publics' previous worry with Apollo 13 and Apollo era Skylab missions and the current goals of NASA to send crew onboard Skylab for months without an escape vehicle docked at the station with Shuttle launches for crew rotations, many are raising safety concerns around this however, NASA states it is a simpler, more efficient and cheaper option.

     

     

     

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    Discovery as she awaits her launch.

     

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    Discovery nearing liftoff time.

     

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    Liftoff of Discovery!

     

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    Ascent and SRB sep

     

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    Roll over

     

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    ET sep

     

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    Discovery's doors open revealing the IUS stage

     

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    IUS erected and ready for deployment

     

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    IUS deployment

     

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    TRS based satellite gliding on IUS awaiting solid ignition.

     

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    Ignition

     

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    TRS based satellite deployment

     

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    Rendezvous burn to Skylab

     

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    Discovery approaching her station

     

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    Soft docking

     

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    Hard lock and dock to Skylab's MDIM adapter

     

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    Skylab in her new position of pointing the forward APAS unit down towards Earth

     

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    Skylab seen with her new coat

     

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    Discovery undocks from Skylab

     

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    Discovery lands at Edwards Air Force Base and finishes off another mission.

  6. 1 hour ago, Raptor22 said:

    I've seen it mentioned in a document about general repurposing of the shuttle's tank, among other things like using it for the body of a space telescope or as an orbital fuel depot, along with the aft cargo carrier concept. I have seen some mentions in the BDB documentation about a shuttle external tank with Skylab.

    For general tank reuse stuff, I recommend reading through the Space Studies Institute's report on it: https://ssi.org/reading/ssi-report-on-tank-applications/ 
    If that page is awkward to read it on, here's just a normal PDF version: https://ssi.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/ssi_externaltanks_gimarc.pdf

    There's also plenty of things on the No Shortage Of Dreams blog (IIRC earlier you said this had no relation with it) that talk about ET utilization: https://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2023/03/space-shuttle-external-tank-et.html

    And via Astronautix: http://www.astronautix.com/s/stsexternaltankstation.html

    Judging by the graphics you used in the post above with the new solar shield, I'm betting you've read this document, but if you haven't: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19790011998/downloads/19790011998.pdf It's worth reading!

    Thanks I have already seen these but I will give them a read again! still have only seen the ET used as a tech demo on Skylab and not a hangar

  7. 6 hours ago, Raptor22 said:

    If I recall correctly, they planned to use it as a hangar of sorts. So, I'm guessing they'd probably have some cutting done in orbit to remove one of the ends. Maybe they'd use the LH2 tank for the hangar and then the smaller LOX tank for a pressurized module for crews to work in. It could probably be done with Near Future Launch Vehicles' cargo bays - I was able to replicate a "close enough" sized structure with it. Though, the real problem is figuring out just how on earth it's supposed to attach to SkyLab; I haven't been able to find any drawings or anything anywhere that could give me a clue, so it will probably involve a fair amount of creativity from @TruthfulGnome- but, seeing how well the rest of their work has turned out so far, I have no doubt they can pull it off.

    From all of the studies I've seen I have not seen a mention of the ET being used as a hangar and as of currently I don't have plans for it being used as an hangar but I do have some fun things in mind.

    4 hours ago, Rutabaga22 said:

    What would it be a hangar for? Docking can be done in the open. 

    A hangar would mostly protect said spacecrafts inside 

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