Unity Crashing, not easily reproduced

Kielm · January 17, 2021

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Crash!!!
SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program;C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 534, UserName: '<snip>'
OS-Version: 10.0.0
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========== OUTPUTTING STACK TRACE ==================

0x00007FFBD9298BF9 (d3d11) CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface
0x00007FFB9AE9D39A (UnityPlayer) PAL_Thread_SupportsThreads
0x00007FFB9AEA10D4 (UnityPlayer) PAL_Thread_SupportsThreads
0x00007FFB9AF36D2A (UnityPlayer) PAL_Thread_SupportsThreads
0x00007FFB9AF372DB (UnityPlayer) PAL_Thread_SupportsThreads
0x00007FFB9AF386AB (UnityPlayer) PAL_Thread_SupportsThreads
0x00007FFB9AF38788 (UnityPlayer) PAL_Thread_SupportsThreads
0x00007FFB9B23A298 (UnityPlayer) UnityMain
0x00007FFBDF387034 (KERNEL32) BaseThreadInitThunk
0x00007FFBDF9FD0D1 (ntdll) RtlUserThreadStart

========== END OF STACKTRACE ===========

Hi,

I've been encountering an annoying unity crash when playing. It's not easily reproduced (unfortunately), seems to happen more often in the VAB than anywhere else, but it also occurs in flight - so far never in the tracking station or any other scenes.

With high part / large craft it occurs more often, but it also occurs if I play KSP for more than a couple of hours at a time without restarting it. Unfortunately the KSP log file is not helpful when this occurs - it simply outputs the last "in game" event and then nothing. It's a Unity crash (the Unity window pops up and it's trying to generate a crash report), so I'm not convinced that it's something in the mods I'm using. I've put the Player-prev.log (from C:\Users\<name>\AppData\LocalLow\Squad\Kerbal Space Program) above in a spoiler that shows everything after the crash occurs.

This is outside of my technical comfort zone, can anyone offer any assistance please?

VoidSquid · January 17, 2021

From your

4 minutes ago, Kielm said:

With high part / large craft it occurs more often

4 minutes ago, Kielm said:

if I play KSP for more than a couple of hours

this smells like a memory issue. I suggest you check the memory consumption and the available memory.

Kielm · January 17, 2021

Just now, VoidSquid said:

From your

this smells like a memory issue. I suggest you check the memory consumption and the available memory.

Thanks for the reply.

I don't use that many mods (mostly the USI suite plus a few quality of life bits), and have 32Gb so I don't think it's that, but I can understand why you would think it might be.

VoidSquid · January 17, 2021

If you have a crash dump, I could put it through a debugger, often it points to the culprit.

Kielm · January 17, 2021

I can check - where might I find that?

VoidSquid · January 17, 2021

Usually \AppData\Local\CrashDumps or \AppData\LocalLow\Squad\Kerbal Space Program\Crashes

Kielm · January 17, 2021

Thanks.

Oddly enough there are only 2x KSP crash dumps in there which indicates it's not catching all of them, or this was a separate crash, as the last occurance was 7 days ago. Can't guarantee this will be the correct issue but here it is.

VoidSquid · January 17, 2021

That was easy:

Spoiler

Loading Dump File [E:\Downloads\KSP_x64.exe.7540.dmp]
User Mini Dump File: Only registers, stack and portions of memory are available

************* Path validation summary **************
Response Time (ms) Location
Deferred srv*c:\symbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: srv*c:\symbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is:
Windows 10 Version 19042 MP (12 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS
19041.1.amd64fre.vb_release.191206-1406
Machine Name:
Debug session time: Sun Jan 10 20:58:02.000 2021 (UTC + 1:00)
System Uptime: not available
Process Uptime: 0 days 0:09:37.000
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Loading unloaded module list
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This dump file has an exception of interest stored in it.
The stored exception information can be accessed via .ecxr.
(1d74.231c): Access violation - code c0000005 (first/second chance not available)
For analysis of this file, run !analyze -v
ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr+0x387:
00007ff9`28288ff7 0f29442470 movaps xmmword ptr [rsp+70h],xmm0 ss:0000006c`138ee488=3fac6b2de1dc8c7a0000006c138ee4c0
0:000> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Exception Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************

*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for gameoverlayrenderer64.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for mono-2.0-bdwgc.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for UnityPlayer.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvwgf2umx.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

Key : AV.Fault
Value: Read

Key : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
Value: 577

PROCESSES_ANALYSIS: 1

SERVICE_ANALYSIS: 1

STACKHASH_ANALYSIS: 1

TIMELINE_ANALYSIS: 1

Timeline: !analyze.Start
Name: <blank>
Time: 2021-01-17T17:56:35.748Z
Diff: 597513748 mSec

Timeline: Dump.Current
Name: <blank>
Time: 2021-01-10T19:58:02.0Z
Diff: 0 mSec

Timeline: Process.Start
Name: <blank>
Time: 2021-01-10T19:48:25.0Z
Diff: 577000 mSec

DUMP_CLASS: 2

DUMP_QUALIFIER: 400

CONTEXT: (.ecxr)
rax=0000000000000000 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=0000000000000002
rdx=0000006c138ee4c0 rsi=0000006c138ee6f8 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=00007ff928288ff7 rsp=0000006c138ee418 rbp=0000006c138ee518
r8=0000000000000013 r9=0000000000000038 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000000000003 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000000000000
r14=0000000000000000 r15=00007ff92836c1b0
iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz ac po cy
cs=0033 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00010295
ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr+0x387:
00007ff9`28288ff7 0f29442470 movaps xmmword ptr [rsp+70h],xmm0 ss:0000006c`138ee488=3fac6b2de1dc8c7a0000006c138ee4c0
Resetting default scope

FAULTING_IP:
ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr+387
00007ff9`28288ff7 0f29442470 movaps xmmword ptr [rsp+70h],xmm0

EXCEPTION_RECORD: (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff928288ff7 (ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr+0x0000000000000387)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
Parameter[1]: ffffffffffffffff
Attempt to read from address ffffffffffffffff

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: INVALID_POINTER_READ

PROCESS_NAME: KSP_x64.exe

FOLLOWUP_IP:
gameoverlayrenderer64+9d67a
00007ff8`f02dd67a ?? ???

READ_ADDRESS: ffffffffffffffff

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR: c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: ffffffffffffffff

WATSON_BKT_PROCSTAMP: 4614489d

WATSON_BKT_PROCVER: 9.18.944.0

PROCESS_VER_PRODUCT: Microsoft® DirectX for Windows®

WATSON_BKT_MODULE: ntdll.dll

WATSON_BKT_MODSTAMP: 27bfa5f0

WATSON_BKT_MODOFFSET: 38ff7

WATSON_BKT_MODVER: 10.0.19041.662

MODULE_VER_PRODUCT: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System

BUILD_VERSION_STRING: 19041.1.amd64fre.vb_release.191206-1406

MODLIST_WITH_TSCHKSUM_HASH: b273d8eb5be8a060c8476eae5243bbd5068ac05b

MODLIST_SHA1_HASH: c35fc573219257882a8118319fd9fac6158688e4

NTGLOBALFLAG: 0

PROCESS_BAM_CURRENT_THROTTLED: 0

PROCESS_BAM_PREVIOUS_THROTTLED: 0

APPLICATION_VERIFIER_FLAGS: 0

DUMP_FLAGS: 94

DUMP_TYPE: 1

ANALYSIS_SESSION_HOST:

ANALYSIS_SESSION_TIME: 01-17-2021 18:56:35.0748

ANALYSIS_VERSION: 10.0.18362.1 amd64fre

THREAD_ATTRIBUTES:
OS_LOCALE: ENG

BUGCHECK_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_INVALID_POINTER_READ

PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: APPLICATION_FAULT

PROBLEM_CLASSES:

ID: [0n313]
Type: [@ACCESS_VIOLATION]
Class: Addendum
Scope: BUCKET_ID
Name: Omit
Data: Omit
PID: [Unspecified]
TID: [0x231c]
Frame: [0] : ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr

ID: [0n285]
Type: [INVALID_POINTER_READ]
Class: Primary
Scope: DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID (Failure Bucket ID prefix)
BUCKET_ID
Name: Add
Data: Omit
PID: [Unspecified]
TID: [0x231c]
Frame: [0] : ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 00007ff9282888a3 to 00007ff928288ff7

STACK_TEXT:
0000006c`138ee418 00007ff9`282888a3 : 00000000`00000000 0000006c`138ee701 0000016d`e3d90000 0000006c`138ee7e8 : ntdll!RtlDosApplyFileIsolationRedirection_Ustr+0x387
0000006c`138ee698 00007ff9`2828863c : 00000000`00000000 0000006c`138eea88 00000000`00000000 0000006c`138ee7d8 : ntdll!LdrpApplyFileNameRedirection+0xff
0000006c`138ee738 00007ff9`28284a94 : 0000006c`138eea88 0000006c`138ee8a8 4081342a`d16188c9 0000006c`138ee800 : ntdll!LdrpPreprocessDllName+0x4c
0000006c`138ee7a8 00007ff9`282849f7 : 0000006c`138eea88 00000000`00000006 00000000`00000000 0000006c`138eebd8 : ntdll!LdrpFindLoadedDll+0x5c
0000006c`138ee938 00007ff9`282848bc : 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`fff0bdc0 0000006c`138eeba8 c15486da`00000001 : ntdll!LdrGetDllHandleEx+0xd7
0000006c`138eea28 00007ff9`25d0b68a : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 006e0072`0065006b : ntdll!LdrGetDllHandle+0x1c
0000006c`138eea68 00007ff8`f02dd67a : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000014 0000016f`00000000 00000000`00000238 : KERNELBASE!GetModuleHandleW+0x3a
0000006c`138eeaa8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000014 0000016f`00000000 00000000`00000238 0057005c`003a0043 : gameoverlayrenderer64+0x9d67a

THREAD_SHA1_HASH_MOD_FUNC: 0866b0adbb83b824b9a44e09e2c22e125ad94a5f

THREAD_SHA1_HASH_MOD_FUNC_OFFSET: cba0fe24af6e733a6bf4fad7e82776d2c080e84f

THREAD_SHA1_HASH_MOD: 286d3a81a46b3979ed69ce9574d29ec3ec1eba56

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 7

SYMBOL_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64+9d67a

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64

IMAGE_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64.dll

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 5fdfd940

STACK_COMMAND: ~0s ; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: INVALID_POINTER_READ_c0000005_gameoverlayrenderer64.dll!Unknown

BUCKET_ID: APPLICATION_FAULT_INVALID_POINTER_READ_gameoverlayrenderer64+9d67a

FAILURE_EXCEPTION_CODE: c0000005

FAILURE_IMAGE_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64.dll

BUCKET_ID_IMAGE_STR: gameoverlayrenderer64.dll

FAILURE_MODULE_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64

BUCKET_ID_MODULE_STR: gameoverlayrenderer64

FAILURE_FUNCTION_NAME: Unknown

BUCKET_ID_FUNCTION_STR: Unknown

BUCKET_ID_OFFSET: 9d67a

BUCKET_ID_MODTIMEDATESTAMP: 5fdfd940

BUCKET_ID_MODCHECKSUM: 1c6f5d

BUCKET_ID_MODVER_STR: 6.28.18.86

BUCKET_ID_PREFIX_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_INVALID_POINTER_READ_

FAILURE_PROBLEM_CLASS: APPLICATION_FAULT

FAILURE_SYMBOL_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64.dll!Unknown

WATSON_STAGEONE_URL: http://watson.microsoft.com/StageOne/KSP_x64.exe/9.18.944.0/4614489d/ntdll.dll/10.0.19041.662/27bfa5f0/c0000005/00038ff7.htm?Retriage=1

TARGET_TIME: 2021-01-10T19:58:02.000Z

OSBUILD: 19042

OSSERVICEPACK: 662

SERVICEPACK_NUMBER: 0

OS_REVISION: 0

SUITE_MASK: 256

PRODUCT_TYPE: 1

OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64

OSNAME: Windows 10

OSEDITION: Windows 10 WinNt SingleUserTS

USER_LCID: 0

OSBUILD_TIMESTAMP: 2009-12-29 15:37:03

BUILDDATESTAMP_STR: 191206-1406

BUILDLAB_STR: vb_release

BUILDOSVER_STR: 10.0.19041.1.amd64fre.vb_release.191206-1406

ANALYSIS_SESSION_ELAPSED_TIME: 410f

ANALYSIS_SOURCE: UM

FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING: um:invalid_pointer_read_c0000005_gameoverlayrenderer64.dll!unknown

FAILURE_ID_HASH: {d882adcc-7a8d-71b6-2fa4-8bb5ddaa459b}

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

FAILURE_MODULE_NAME: gameoverlayrenderer64

gameoverlayrenderer64.dll is from Valve Corporation and is part of Steam Game Overlay.

It is well known that such software can cause KSP game crashes.

Edited January 17, 2021 by VoidSquid

Kielm · January 17, 2021

:huh:

Alright, I'll turn off the steam overlay and see if that makes a difference.

Might as well do a full reinstall while I'm at it. Thanks very much for pinning that one down!

VoidSquid · January 17, 2021

You're welcome, happy to help

Kielm · January 18, 2021

@VoidSquid I have just had another crash and let Unity gather it's crash report.

Can I ask what debugger you're using?

VoidSquid · January 18, 2021

WinDbg x64

You can get it here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/debugger-download-tools

Configure the symbol path to something like

srv*c:\symbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

and you're good to go!

Edited January 18, 2021 by VoidSquid

Kielm · January 18, 2021

26 minutes ago, VoidSquid said:

WinDbg x64

Thanks. This looks like a very generic memory violation error to me, are you able to advise anything more detailed?

Link to dump

VoidSquid · January 18, 2021

That's where the job-experience part comes in.

0xc0000005 or "general protection fault" is most often caused by drivers, that's my first look then.

*******************************************************************************
* *
* Exception Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************

*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for mono-2.0-bdwgc.dll
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvwgf2umx.dll

Two DLLs listed here, one is from KSP, one from the Nvidia graphics driver.
I'm assuming (and most of the time you can) it's not caused by any Windows DLL, these two are most probably involved in that GPF.

The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.

Again, very typical for driver issue. Now what is causing this?

The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase

As I thought, the debugger doesn't know the module, it is most probably not a problem caused by Windows itself, we told the bugger where to download any Windows related stuff from:

38 minutes ago, VoidSquid said:

srv*c:\symbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

C:\symbols is the local cache, for everything not cached go to msdl.microsoft.com

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: INVALID_POINTER_READ_c0000005_UnityPlayer.dll!Unknown

This is it, the crash is caused by Unity, i.e. KSP itself. Which usually doesn't behave like this . Something made Unity crashing, and by experience, it's some mod, probably having issues with either the current Unity version, or another mod.

Best guess: an outdated mod.

Second guess (as we know the graphics driver might be involved): outdated graphics driver. Or something else interfering with graphics, like that Steam Overlay.

So that's my preliminary analysis here.

Kielm · January 18, 2021

Very detailed analysis, thanks.

My drivers are up to date, and I'm using some outdated mods, so I suspect it'll be mod related.

Unfortunately as many mods haven't ported to 1.11 the list of potential culprits is quite extensive, so it looks like I'll have to put up with it until I can't put up with it anymore, or start yanking stuff out in the middle of a career game. I'll have a look over what I've got and yank as much as I reasonably can.

Thanks again, you're a star.

VoidSquid · January 19, 2021

15 minutes ago, Kielm said:

Thanks again, you're a star.

Blushing... nah, just someone who tries to help here and there a bit.

16 minutes ago, Kielm said:

My drivers are up to date

I do remember a graphics bug in Hitman 2 that was caused by newer drivers, older drivers did work fine though. Meaning: latest, most of the time, is fine, but just not always.

17 minutes ago, Kielm said:

Unfortunately as many mods haven't ported to 1.11 the list of potential culprits is quite extensive

You're familiar with the old principle of bisection to find a solution? Remove half of your mods. If the issue persists, it must be one of the not removed mods, if it is gone, must be one of the removed mods. Rinse and repeat, and you'll find the culprit in short time.

Now, that said, I think currently I'm only one here doing crash dump debugging. And you seem to be interested in that too. Maybe you could help other folks too with debugging their crash dumps? Just saying...

Kielm · January 19, 2021

45 minutes ago, VoidSquid said:

I do remember a graphics bug in Hitman 2 that was caused by newer drivers, older drivers did work fine though. Meaning: latest, most of the time, is fine, but just not always.

I won't rule out graphics - one crash has occurred in the VAB and was preceded by black flickering textures. Another in the VAB but without the flickering. Then again, many of the crashes have been in flight scenes and have occurred suddenly. I couldn't even say for certain if it was still happening in the previous driver, but I suspect it was.

45 minutes ago, VoidSquid said:

You're familiar with the old principle of bisection to find a solution? Remove half of your mods. If the issue persists, it must be one of the not removed mods, if it is gone, must be one of the removed mods. Rinse and repeat, and you'll find the culprit in short time.

Unfortunately it's the timescales between crashes that make it difficult. It can be anything from 2-4 hours between crashes occurring so that's that's 16 hours worth of testing to narrow it down to 3 mods - assuming the crash occurs within the typical timescales.

49 minutes ago, VoidSquid said:

Now, that said, I think currently I'm only one here doing crash dump debugging. And you seem to be interested in that too. Maybe you could help other folks too with debugging their crash dumps? Just saying...

It's a little outside my comfort zone for sure, but as a learning exercise it could be ... fun?

VoidSquid · January 19, 2021

6 hours ago, Kielm said:

so that's that's 16 hours worth of testing

Yeah, doesn't sound very funny and practical then, I see.

Hmm, as we know that the graphics driver seems to be involved here, maybe having a look at any mods altering any graphics (e.g. scatterer, EVE, and the like) would be a good starting point.

Edited January 19, 2021 by VoidSquid

Kielm · January 19, 2021

3 hours ago, VoidSquid said:

Yeah, doesn't sound very funny and practical then, I see.

Hmm, as we know that the graphics driver seems to be involved here, maybe having a look at any mods altering any graphics (e.g. scatterer, EVE, and the like) would be a good starting point.

Ah, that's easy. The only visual mod I have is Waterfall. I'll see if far future will work without it.

Kielm · January 19, 2021

@VoidSquid

While removing mods and testing I came across another crash, which occurs in the VAB and is preceeded by black flickering textures. Suspect it may be related.

Crash Dump points towards FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: INVALID_POINTER_READ_c0000005_d3d11.dll!CContext::TID3D11DeviceContext_IASetVertexBuffers__1_

?

VoidSquid · January 19, 2021

17 minutes ago, Kielm said:

d3d11.dll

Definitely something with graphics, yes.

Aas we found out earlier, it's either a mod, and/or something with the graphics, driver seems the most plausible cause now.

Edited January 19, 2021 by VoidSquid

Kielm · January 19, 2021

Well, on the plus side, I think I've found a way to repeat the crashing in the VAB. I'll reinstall the graphics driver and keep pulling mods.

Kielm · January 19, 2021

I reinstalled the graphics driver and pulled the following mods, and it has not yet crashed. Unfortunately now the screen resolution is changing between every scene (e.g. VAB - KSC, the monitor resolution changes but it appears to be in 1440p before and after, it's just very annoying). Gonna fix that by deleting settings.cfg and rebuilding the settings first, then go back to testing for crashing.

Waterfall
Click through blocker
Far Future
Deployable Engines
SystemHeat

Kielm · January 19, 2021

aaaaaaaand now there's flickering textures on the terrain on Minmus (right hand side, black triangles flicker rapidly)

VoidSquid · January 19, 2021

Seen and read that before, if you have celestial bodies casting self-shadows enabled, disable that.

Also check this thread:

Edited January 19, 2021 by VoidSquid

Unity Crashing, not easily reproduced

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