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There is a difference between magic turbines and helicopters. If the OP is happy to treat magic turbines as falling under the category of helicoptors, fine. I just thought it would be a lot more interesting for people to try and find a way of making an actual stock helicopter than taking a design which relies on a game physics quirk to fly and then making it bigger - a design that we already know works.

I really like the design, and that it was made by rendezvous 'docking' certainly is awesome. Very good work.

It was the only way I could see to create a vehicle with a stable cockpit and rotors that span independantly from the rest of the craft. That it failed was not surprising. Also, neither of those images show anything that could be upscaled to carry a person. Also, I'm not putting down the submissions. I'm saying that they are not helicopters. If there were only a few submissions, I'd have said 'OP should say "Magic Turbines allowed"', but I don't think that's neccesary what with all four pages having only one exception, and that didn't fly.

You can get a rotor to spin quite a lot more easily than an entire craft. With a helicopter, you need only one engine. For something like a real-life magic turbine you would need jet engines on either or several sides. Plus, the rotor for a magic turbine would have to be so much larger than a helicopter rotor to achieve the lift to make up for the craft's drag. And then you wonder if its even feasable to get such a large rotor up to lift speed without it shearing apart. And then there's the question of what the hell do you do with a magic turbine that only goes up and down. If the Coléoptère C450 couldn't make the turn to level flight, a magic turbine as big as these certainly aren't going to. The magic turbine phenomena is the fact that, to have the maneuverability effects neccesary, the cannards produce a disproportionate amount of floatiness compared to their size. This is because KSP doesn't run a physics simulation by the shape and size of a wing, it runs the physics simulation by what lift rating you give the part in its .cfg file. Thus you get a tiny wing that can cause a small craft to reach ludicrous speeds through nothing more than the cabin spinning.

1 - Yes, they are magic turbines. Magic as in 'this could not work in real life because it takes advantage of KSP's inherent lack of proper wing lift physics'. How many real life helicopters do you know of that spin their pilots dizzy under normal operation? Small magic turbines need only their canards to fly once you get them started, but they still use engines to get them off the ground. Large ones are impossible without the engines - and what you are making are large magic turbines. 2 - The idea was that the rotors would have the decouplers, which are hollow inside [or at least the most likely to be], spin around the White Owl tail part. I put canards on the decouplers for lift [taking advantage of the magic turbine principle, I admit.] Then I put in a release mechanism and engines on the rotor parts. Launching procedure would go: /Engines start /Full throttle /Decouple rotors /Rotors fly up and into their places, their lift holding them up against the tail parts. /Liftoff However, the rotors couldn't even get themselves off the ground, so I scrapped the entire plan and built a VTOL that can't be entered here. 3 - Done.

The Osprey [AKA Sealynx is a fat slob of a plane that handles badly and moves slow - but it can be forgiven when you note that it is entirely capable of vertical climb and descent with almost no lateral speed at all. It also carries three Kerbals, and may be ideal for carriers. Top speed at level flight is circa 45 m/s.

This was my attempt: It failed - the rotors couldn't even lift themselves upwards, let alone the entire craft. But heck, this is closer to a real helicopter than all the magic turbines I see being pumped out.

Wow. Clutter-awesome factor raised.

Ok, soon as I get my desktop running, I'll put it up. And its Orbital Construction, not Shipyard [unless they are the same thing] that I used. EDIT: Uploaded the link on the first post. Also note, I forgot to mention it requires Probodobodyne too.

I did see it. It was really long, had about three main 'shafts', with BACE parts linking them, and all the solar panels at one end. But yes, the image is down now.

The download appears to be for Mac OSX. I'm fairly certain this will affect its ability to run on Windows 7. Or is there a Windows download I missed?

The Alpha has the hugeness, but the DS-2 has my kind of 'awesome because it's cluttered' feel. Like my desk. The laptop sits on a pulled-out drawer, the scanner sits on the DVD player, and I have both a flatscreen TV and a CRT computer monitor for my desktop.

7/10, like a G6.

Albert Einstein flying NX-01 Enterprise away from David Cameron in a Vauxhall Astra diesel. Or, for even more awesome, the other way round.

Wow. That is massive.

It uses NovaPunch, BACE pack, Crewtank, Truss Pack, Kosmos and Orbital Construction [it's far too massive for a normal launch vehicle, or for the pad.]

Space cargo plane?

That is a nice station. looks like it has good crew capacity too.

This is not about the largest spacestation, although that can be an awe factor. This is not about getting a certain type of space station to orbit by rocket. This is Most Awesome Spacestation, exactly what it says on the tin. Use whatever mods you want [insta-orbit or OC Jumpdrive come to mind] to get what you consider to be the best possible looking spacestation into orbit. A tip I'll give is that you can have larger stations if you build them in the spaceplane hangar. My entry: .Craft file: http://www59.zippyshare.com/d/48626643/41726/Predator%20Station.craft

Predator is a big-ass station. I used a large rendezvous module, so I'm not surprised I couldn't quite latch on. So much lag.

This is the closest I could get. And closer and Predator Station would have needed Dynasat to keep in position.

I can see China getting there next. No one else can be bothered.

Spot the forum's running gag in this image.

The President plans on a manned Mars mission in the 2020s that NASA is planning in the 2030s? Does the President have his own special spaceflight organisation or something? We won't even have a replacement bus service for the Shuttle until 2015.

It's not supposed to be in canon really, It's just me as a Keidran sitting at my desk. I posted this on DeviantArt and recieved a favourite within 5 minutes. [insert Success Kid meme image here]