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Hey @Kerbas_ad_astra, since you're gutting the mod anyway, could you consider bringing the old aerospike back?

And this is different from merging one config into the other how, exactly? I've tried both that and moving the assets (including editing all of the asset paths in the .cfgs) to no effect. Right now I have only a half-broken set-up described in a post above yours.

Edit: I've tried throwing together a more unified config by merging SVE_Clouds and OPMClouds into the AVP subfiles. This has gotten all of the clouds to appear, but seems to have knocked out the "duststorm" and "lightning" files, even though I haven't touched the former. The scatterer oddities on Kerbin persist:

Alright, I've exhausted my wits. I have a stable Astronomer's-EVE-Scatterer configuration, but as soon as I introduce even the most heavily truncated SVE I a) get white sea at the KSC and b) lose all lightning and clouds (i.e. Astronomer's auroras stay) on non-OPM planets. @Dankgum, ultimately I don't understand your advice. Do you or do you not want me to throw together a common .cfg? My current set-up looks like this: Astronomer's Visual Pack EVE Textures atmosphere.cfg (affects Kerbin only) aurora.cfg (Duna's config pruned) clouds.cfg (pruned) duststorm.cfg glow.cfg lightning.cfg (Duna's config pruned) pqs.cfg shadows.cfg snow.cfg terrain.cfg textures.cfg Skybox Astronomers-Scatterer.cfg Astronomers-Skybox.cfg Scatterer config Planets Duna Kerbin Sunflares (overwritten with Astroniki's) Bakk.zip config.cfg planetsList.cfg planetShineCubemap Shaders scatterer.dll SVE SVE_Configs EVE_AtmoSmoother.cfg (rewritten to target specific bodies) EVE_Atmospheres.cfg (pruned) EVE_OPMAtmospheres.cfg OPMClouds.cfg SVE_Clouds.cfg (pruned) SVE_Scatterer Planets Eve Jool Laythe Neidon Sarnus Tekto Urlum planetsList.cfg Sactterer_Settings.cfg Textures Tagging devs who actually know their way around these configs: @Galileo;@themaster401; @blackrack; @Waz.

That's where I'd started. I am fully aware of the issue, and don't intend to.

Tried that one as well, still caused the two cloud configs to conflict.

It was on ASTP, so... yeah. @zpox357, try this:

Amusingly, I was recently chastised for missing the chance to attend a NASA-Roscosmos get-together in Moscow. They had discussed the LOP-G. After a 120-second rant, I was completely forgiven, given two Expedition 51 pins, and told to never even attempt to attend such events in the future.

Not in the slightest. One system was complete and existed, just never found use, the other never left the drawing board. That's like comparing historical steam-powered cars to the Ford Nucleon.

Being rather picky about how my planets look, I'm trying to marry no less than two complete, mutually exclusive visual mod packages - the Astronomer's Visual Pack and the Stock Visual Overhaul. The Plan The (Failed) Solution My best shot thus far has been to add the following (and dependency files) to Astronomer's install while pruning excess clouds: The result of this has been loss of clouds (but not aurorae), and excessive scattering on Kerbin.

Blame the payload (it failed its pitchover and thus the orbital insertion burn), not the rocket. Blame the nation, not the rocket.

@b0ss, we haven't even yet addressed the bear in the room:

There was no sense in it otherwise. That said, the larger system was even more flexible: not only could it make do without humans, it could do without the shuttle.

Not sure about postcard, but here you go, purpose-built for Project PLUTO. The Soviets built something remotely similar for the "dirty bomb" radiological warheads of the late 1940s.

Quite the opposite, the Soviets imposed the same peculiar requirements onto their own craft - namely, crossrange - without even being sure where those requirements came from. Glushko had no desire to build a winged spaceplane. He even tried to weasel out with this compromise: @Pawelk198604, the best thing about the Buran is that it was not a requisite for Energia operations. Glushko managed to sneak a Space Launch System-style superheavy booster into the program's ginormous budget. He didn't build her for the Buran. He built her for Mars.

I’ve always theorized that this ties into various strength of suspension of disbelief. Suspension of disbelief allows the human mind to depart ‘peak ubernerdism’ , but it has its limits - and these limits vary from domain to domain. The reaction to it being abused varies from “meh” to “oh, dear” to “**** this **********ing ********”. An example of a domain would be human relations. Have you ever noticed, how, before maybe five years ago, the bulk of the people enjoying Mary Sues also had a stunted, underdeveloped, one may say juvenile, perception of interpersonal relationships, of storytelling? Remember, someone read all those piles of fanfic. Someone enjoyed Ebony Ravenhair-whatever. It is my opinion that hard sci-fi has similar irreversible effects. Why five or so years? Because of certain recent pieces of media... *user last seen running for the Canadian border, being chased by angry mods* We can occasionally put on the silly hats and enjoy something. But you can’t stop the mind from picking it apart afterwards.

I have no unbannable words for this statement. There is no concept of cross-section in passive sonar operation. The only thing it detects is noise made by the target. Active sonar doesn’t. They are two systems with entirely different principles and often significantly different operating frequencies. Active sonar can defect wrecks that make no noise. Passive sonar can detect targets thousands of miles away. The similar naming is incidential and counterproductive.

@magnemoe, the kind of active sonar used by civilian sonars is not militarily relevant. We’re talking about microphones so gigantic, they’ve pushed torpedo tubes out of the bow.

Uhm, citation needed? If Orion can only barely make it out of NRHO under its own Service Module power, it's not an awfully effective lunar injection stage - so long as you're not into suicide missions.

Either he measured the wrong signature... or you're on even more watchlists than I am.

And, interestingly, the phenomenon has stagnated. From Skate to Seawolf the crew has gone up from 80 to 140. I’m sure a hands-per-tonnage breakdown will show the process has largely stopped.

*thousand-yard stare*

Not radar-resistant, but very unconventional due to specific altitude requirements - MOGUL was used for remote (intercontinental) nuclear explosion detection, not direct espionage. Also, it mounted dedicated radar reflectors, contributing to the Whiskey Tango Foxtrot factor to any observers.

Maglev trains have maglev tracks.

That would be... politically correct. Yeah, I'm also entirely serious, and am trying to stick to facts; the Soviet Union being up to quota shenanigans is not even controversial. Also, it was apparently hilarious to watch the eye twitches whenever Mstislaw Keldysh reported himself as a nobleman with all the secret clearances (from nukes to aerodynamics to orbital mechanics). Almost as hilarious as it was for Mikhail Yangel, after years of getting the side-eye, to be informed that, according to credible Western sources, he was von Braun's missing deputy and not a son of a Siberian hunter.