Thanks for the welcome guys, I was just reading about what persistence has in store,,Think i might need to work on a Mun Bulldozer to clean up all the (DEBRIS) er landed ships. At this rate clear real estate will be at a premium before too long, or i\'ll need some more bigger planets,,that sideways drift on landing really is amusing ,I\'ve got it to the point where the ships only fall apart on the Mun instead exploding, wont be long now till the eagle has landed, time for some more practice, thanks again,,,,,Madmat Here\'s my 1st official landing,,takeoff didn\'t go so well with just 1 engine left,(should\'ve taken off with capsule and RCS only) but dammit the 1 legged eagle has landed!!! ;P