secretly_asian

Ah okay. well i went ahead to wipe my mods out and reinstall them, and that didn't work. Then, i tried to delete my CKAN cache of mods and reinstall them and it worked. I think somewhere CKAN messed up the installation of one of the dependencies.

Thats strange i do have the toolbarcontroller installed. here's the other log you requested. https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9w3udgj71uutrr/output_log.txt?dl=0

@linuxgurugamer I seem to be having a similar problem here myself, where i have the dependencies installed and the latest version, however the mod doesnt seem to be active. I dont know if this is interference from other mods or what but here is the log. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pujw9wnxi8rk3vf/KSP.log?dl=0

How high is it supposed to be?!?! Atmospheric mode on the thermal jet is like 7800 kn @ 350s when its scaled to 3.75 with a 10GW beamed power supply [I PM'ed you]

I just ran a test using the thermal nozzles utilizing beamed power and the thermal receiver. on a 3.75m formfactor, a thermal nozzle using Lqd Methane and receiving 10GW of beamed energy has an ISP of 905s and ~3600 KN of thrust. When I used Hydrazine I had ~510s ISP and ~1200KN thrust. Not only is Methane lighter, it is also non-toxic (ish)!

what was its ISP? i dont remember if hydrazine was one of the three fuels that has the same properties as methane, i do know ammonia has that.

Then i look forward to seeing how it performs

Yes, but you can also figure it out by strapping a reactor to an engine and putting all propellants in various fuel tanks to test it out yourself. I dont have exact numbers, but heres a basic rundown (excluding nuclear engines) ATTILA: -------------------------Lqd Methane Magneto Plasma: ---------------Lqd Krypton T. Turbojet: ---------------------Lqd Methane T. Ramjet: ----------------------Lqd Methane Krusader: -----------------------Lqd Methane Wakefield: -----------------------Lqd Krypton Plasma Noz: -------------------Lqd Methane Now none of these propellants have the highest ISP, but they have (in my opinion) the best performance when considering mass and volume. LqdMethane is awesome because it has a thrust multiplier for thermal engines due to its expansive properties when heated, and it retains good ISP because it is a light molecule. LqdKrypton is a good electric engine propellant because it has a higher ISP than Xenon, costs a lot less, and has the highest fuel efficiency rating. Unfortunately i did not test the vasmir engines because... well i haven't had to yet.

Unless this new propellant is really really unique in a way, i'm sticking to Lqd Methane and Lqd Krypton as my two primary propellants.

A few more things, since I've been toying with the beamed power mechanic i'm learning more and more. please correct me if any of the following statements I've made are incorrect: - The double-pivoted photovoltaic receivers will produce power without the need of a generator if exposed to a beam, respective to their designed wavelengths - The phased array transceiver can transmit or relay beamed power, but only the large fold-able one can relay beams - The double-pivoted infrared and light mirrors only work with diode laser beams of their respective wavelengths -Thermal mode receivers need to be attached to thermal generators, whereas electric mode receivers will produce energy just by being hit with a beam -Thermal engines will operate only when connected to a compatible reactor or an inline thermal receiver, they cannot be connected to a thermal dish -The large and medium transceiver dishes are electric receivers and do not need to be connected to a generator. Thanks again @FreeThinker this is absolutely a core mod in any KSP game I've ever played and I love it very much for its intricacies. p.s. if you want, whenever i have spare time I can help you clean up some of your parts descriptions, some are either outdated or have grammatical errors in them. cheers!

So would that mean the inline receiver with a power capacity of 8,000 MW and a dish with a capacity of 10,000 MW on the same craft push 18,000 MW of power through a generator/thermal engine, assuming there is a source that can provide that much power?

So i played around with the beamed power mechanics some more, and found out that the mirrors work only with diode laser type beams, and that phased array transmitters only works with other phased array transmitters and thermal receivers. Now my next question is, what are the mechanics behind the radial thermal receiver dishes? In the description of the "Radial gold thermal receiver dish" this part needs to be connected to an inline thermal receiver which needs to be connected to a thermal generator to produce power, however i see no increase in energy production when the dish is attached to the inline receiver or the thermal generator. Even as a standalone part, the receiver produces about 5MW of power, as seen by my MJ (megajoules) resource increasing by 5.00 every second. I've also tested this with a thermal turbojet, and a 2.5m 2x length thermal receiver will produce ~3600KN of force at 906s ISP using LqdMethane, but regardless of any dish I add to the vessel the thrust never changes. I am aware that the thermal receiver has a cap at 8,000 MW of thermal energy, but wouldn't adding dishes to it increase that cap? Please note that the transmitting vessel pushes out 20GW of beam power and the receiving vessel has a <1cm spotsize. Also, i apologize for my ignorance on this topic, I'm just trying to make an epic solar-system wide colonization and i don't know how to make beamed power work fully. ***EDIT*** what is the "isThermalReceiverSlave = true" parameter in the part.cfg for the receiver dishes? this could very well answer my question.

The set up i used had a phased array transmitter set to long infrared, and a relay using the double pivoted infrared mirror and a receiver with another phased array receiver. Are the two parts incompatible? does it need a dish/diode laser?

As far as i can tell, the only way i can use beamed power is with the original parts (phased array) and with line of site to the transmitter. all else doesn't work for me.

@FreeThinker I'm sorry for my ignorance, i've looked around on the forums and can't quite seem to find my asnwer. My problem involves beamed power networks, and i've used to use them all the time a year or two ago and have since forgotten how to use them. Right now, I have a station in geostat orbit with two stellarator reactors and a single scaled-up phased array transceiver pushing out ~21GW long infrared beam. About 90 degrees from that is a probe with the infrared mirror, and 180 degrees to the reactor is a test ship with the double pivoting phased array transceiver. With the relay active on the mirror, my test ship receives no power, even moving it close to the reactor transmitter has no effect and i am without power. I know the spectral range of the infrared mirror is 9um and longer, and long infrared is 11um. Idk whats going on. Are the parts broken or am i missing something here?