IcarusBen

There's a difference being ambiguity and WTF. Lots of sci-fi shows have excelled at dealing with ambiguity. Doctor Who, Stargate, Firefly. But the reason we those were good is because the answers were there, but it took a lot of digging and hypothesizing. Yet, it was still in the episodes and films and other things. WTF is where 2001 steps in. Ambiguity in a film is good, but only if there actually IS an answer to be found by the viewer. The thing here is that the answers aren't there. Most ambiguity leaves us with fridge logic, things that either don't bother us until we open up the fridge to get some post-movie beverages, or things we realize "oh, that's why the Time Lords used the Master to escape the Time War." With 2001, we get "WTF?" and our questions have no answers unless we take time to READ the story in book-form or in the original screenplay. A movie should be able to stand on it's own. 2001 just feels like a game where the story is presented like "turn to page 97, paragraphs 3-7."

Once in Kerbin orbit, I request to have the crew taxied to a new station. Unfortunately, I've been put on hold by the Krussians. Russian polka isn't very fun to listen to for hours on end.

But I'm Mr. T, and I pity the fool who punch me in da face! I then summon the A-Team and have them attack the next poster.

7/10 I've seen you on a few forums.

I use the complex strategy of get out and push to slow us down enough so that we land nice and softly on Laythe. I begin salvaging parts to build a launcher to bring us back into orbit.

I assimilate Earth using a complex plan involving time travel and nanites. I then use my new cyborg army to build massive orbital cities. My solar system.

The reason that a movie needs to be comprehensible on a first viewing is simple; you have no idea whether the audience will like your film, or if they'll want to rewatch it, so the message must be put forwards the first time watching. Now, with 2001, not only do you need to watch the film multiple times, but you also need to read the book and the script notes to get the point of it all. If I don't even like the movie, what makes Kubrick think I'll want to read the book? Again, had the third act been the main premise of the film, with it's chilling depiction of an AI, some excellent (if not slightly wooden) characters, and a sense of both paranoia and isolation, this film would've been so much better. As for the cliches, this is the only place I can defend Kubrick. When this movie was released, none of the cliches in the movie were actually cliches.

The Little Mermaid in your pants.

Just as the title says. State a book, movie, game, TV show, etc etc. title and add "in your pants" at the end. I'll start. Spaceballs in your pants.

This. This is my entire experience with 2001. I'm not even half an hour in and I'm like, whut?

It's just a problem when that thought is "this movie sucks...."

I use EARPLUGS! I throw a bucket of liquid nitrogen at the next poster.

Hmm.... Do I smell.... ORBITAL ASSEMBLY? Assemble a craft in orbit with a payload that can get Jeb back and send that back to Kerbin while the main ship flies to Duna.

I invent a new type of math that allows for dividing by zero, thereby saving the universe. I hereby launch a missile at the next poster at LUDICROUS SPEED!

Granted. Unfortunately life isn't very good. I wish Mudkipz Weren't Eternal.

Here's a challenge: Fetch Jeb and then go to Duna in the same mission.

I quickly give Eric a swift kick in his bowl full of jelly. I then throw Eric at the next poster, crushing them.

The entire Ori fleet bear down on your hill in their Holy Crusade. In their wake, they take over the galaxy in my name. My galaxy.

Honestly, I never noticed how cliche it was. But remember, quality is like time, it's relative. I hate it, you like it, but there is no clear definition of good or bad.

Floor 739: You find yourself in 2001: A Space Odyssey's ​BEYOND THE INFINITE!

He once beat Zeus in a brawl. That has to count for something. And let's just assume that in this universe, Superman condones slavery and he and Godzilla both like each other.

Yes, I know this has been done before. But that thread is dead and gone. With the new biomes, I figured we need to do this again. So, let's take a new look at Kerbin. UNIVERSITY OF GEOGRAPHY AND PYROTECHICS Dedicated to the creation of a map of Kerbin. First things first, a blank map of Kerbin. Do we have a map of Kerbin that's no more than 1000 pixels wide?

I put a white hole in front of the black hole to push all the wind away. My holes! Wait...

I use a black hole to suck up the hill. My black hole.