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Hi random kerbal, I love this mod, I also share many of the feelings about the aesthetic of some of the parts. However, I almost always play with the kerbal planetary base systems mod, this happens to provide a very nice looking set of compatible parts, which I'd highly recommend. I'd love to model parts in the style of stock alike station parts (particularly smelters and the large workshop), however my modelling skills are pretty much non existent, fortunately this doesn't stop me enjoying playing and KPBS definitely helps. perhaps a better support in other mods is a better place to start, or you can co-opt stock parts to build if you like. I used to use "not so simple construction" that re-used stock assets to build from docking ports, and provide survey stations in cupolas and hitchhiker modules. it could still work with the latest KSP and EL if you tinker with the config files..

That's awesome.. just reached the part of my career that needs more crew..

Just a quick question, is 0.6.10.1 working fine on ksp 1.9.x? Oh and thanks Linux guru gamer. you seem to have taken on most of my favourite mods..

just going through the EPLextention.cfg all the Ex... references are now EL.. like this: @PART[t1CivilizationGenerationShipQuartersLarge]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELWorkshop productivityFactor = 10 } } @PART[t1CivilizationGenerationShipQuartersMedium]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELWorkshop productivityFactor = 5 } } @PART[InsituKerbalRecruiterTest]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELWorkshop productivityFactor = 2 } } @PART[surfaceAttachHouseSmall]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELWorkshop productivityFactor = 1 } } @PART[civieDock]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELLaunchpad SpawnHeightOffset = 4 } } @PART[civieLandingPadSpace]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELLaunchpad SpawnHeightOffset = 10 } } @PART[civieLandingPadGround]:NEEDS[Launchpad] { MODULE { name = ELLaunchpad SpawnHeightOffset = 3.5 } } I've not checked the spawn offsets are correct (and suspect they may get explodey if used..) I've been looking for the correct NEEDS[...] term for Civilian population to write a patch for stockalike station parts redux.. I don't suppose there is one? (I really could do with understanding how interdependent mod patches work better) Thanks.

Loving the resurrection of this mod! Just a couple of questions.. Are the parts intended to be 3.5m rather than the standard 3.75m I'm tempted to write support patches for other parts packs I'm using (KPBS and/or station parts redux for example), is the best place to start hacking one of the parts (to get variable names etc) or is there a better source of documentation? I may also write a patch for civilian pop assets to support extraplanetary launchpads (as this is my game setup and seems to logically fit well with this mod) what's the best way to add this back into your work? Thanks for your work, I'm just getting the hang of growing my population..

Always fancied using this mod but it never seemed 'finished' I'm so glad someone's taken it on as its the last missing link in my gaming style (base building and ISRU). the only thing I can't create off world is more kerbals! Thanks Linuxgurugamer!

Hi, Running a 1.8.1 RSS build, and the overlays appear to be upside down, scanned both earth and the moon and north pole biomes are on the south and vice versa. this appears to also occur with other scan data too.. Not had a chance to investigate further yet, but if I'm doing something dumb let me know.. otherwise this may be a bug, and I thought I should report it somewhere.. Up to this point everything has been installed with CKAN. If you need any log files let me know and I'll figure out how to make them available... Thanks.

I'd +1 this. there isn't any way that I know of currently. As an enhancement if there's a way to rotate the assembled part just before finalising the build (even if it's just switching it between 6 different orientations) this would be massively useful.

it broke my current install, I had the latest kopenicus already installed. <edit> re-installing kopernicus seems to have made a significant improvement

After further trawling I found this patch that _may_ make a difference (with the latest Kopernicus) from here: https://github.com/Kopernicus/Kopernicus/issues/365 @Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus] { @Body:HAS[!Template[Jool],~name[Sun],!Ocean] { %Ocean { %maxQuadLengthPerFrame=0.03 } } } I'll test it shortly but I thought I'd post it here now.. edit, an update came out 6 days ago.. will try that first..

I'm getting a similar issue, low frame rate when a planet is in view (low orbit) and terrible frame rates when landed but not when doing timewarp.. (except physics warp) I think I have scatters off but I'll have to check and I'll look at kopernicus /scatterer options.. if anyone else has suggestions/solutions I'd be very grateful! I have a decent (ish) rig and it seemed to fairly suddenly slow down as my save progressed. (around building my ike base)

Hi, probably a dumb question, I'm playing science mode, how do I find bodies (without just flying past them, which I did with Ike) a few seem to have randomly populated themselves (jool, sarnus and another star system's barycenter). I have telescopes around eve and on their way to sarnus (OPM) but the Eve one doesn't spot gilly.. and I'm not 'getting' how to make this mod work..

I've seen this wired force issue too, it was in the last version of EL. I seemed to have a force from the orbital build platform (s) on my station. If I have 2 mounted opposite each other this force bug didn't occur, but a single one seemed to produce net thrust.. dumping the build platform module off my station caused it to accelerate as long as it was in physics range.

I'm seeing a similar issue with the shell not going away (and spawning in some odd places too when building on the ground) I found that when landing near my minmus base the shell would spawn near the lander when the base came into physics range, which looked very odd indeed floating at 2.5km above the ground. If there was an option in the build menu to toggle this feature on/off it would be rather handy... Thanks.

I've got exactly the same issue, a decent timewarp results in dozens of messages that all need to be cleared. is there any way to just concatenate these to one per deployed experiment?

wow, bumper update! thanks very much. My wife will be less pleased..

It sorta works, but there is a compatibility issue if you use it with any KAS parts @ the latest version of KAS.. so you can use the orbital construction and surface launchpads, but not being able to use KAS will limit it's usefulness on surface bases.. Taniwha is working on it but we'll have to be patient for now..

Best news this week, my work mates wondered what was going on when I stood up and said "Yes!" when I read your post. Kerbal has been on hold for about 2-3 weeks for me now, so I'm rather excited to hear you're onto it now. Cheers!

Thanks for the rapid and comprehensive reply Tonka Crash. I didn't want to pester anyone as I appreciate how this is all done in spare time for free etc. I was hoping there was some little thing I could help with, but it sounds like the core problems are understood. I'm at a slightly further stage in my savegame and I'm getting desperate for it to work now, I've actually paused playing.. I really like the rocketparts concept and for all it's faults/quirks I've loved it since I started using simple construction (around KSP v.1.2) I guess I'll have to work on my mobile analogue controller till its ready (sliders and thumbsticks in a mini box).

Hi, I don't know if it's already known here, but there seems to be some inter-operability bug between KAS and Extraplanetary launchpads. Latest KAS is great btw, but using any KAS parts (either in the craft being built or on the building vessel) means that the most recent version of EL bugs out... I'm not blaming KAS, and EL hasn't yet been updated for 1.7.x yet, just wondering if something significant changed in KAS that we can feed into the bug reports..

I'm also using KAS, so you may be on to something.. I'll have a look later today.

you used to have 2 parts, and it coupled them like a KAS hose, corridor to corridor coupler. now both parts are the same (K&K flexible corridor) and you can couple them if they are close enough (3m IIRC) without walking (in fact the kerbal has to out of the way as it checks for obstructions) and it forms a solid linkage that you can climb over, and not walk through. built my first minmus base in this save (science mode) last night.

Just to let you know, using latest KSP and KAS builds everything is working well for me, Thanks! was a bit of confusion with the PBS flexible corridors as they seem to operate differently than before, but all is good!

Ok, I'm now seeing this odd behavior too. opening the UI works initially (for me) loading a part seems to spawn it high above me.. and eventually it bounces down from the sky. it doesn't appear in the build UI, and the craft selector only closes when I cancel it. opening sub-assemblies in the craft selector does seem to work but the build UI is then _totally_ broken (there are some scrambled UI features at the top of the window but otherwise its blank, and I can't close it) I'm running 1.7.2 with all DLC (and a handful of other mods) I'm not going to rule out mod incompatibility at this stage, but everything else is currently running O.K. going to check logs for issues.. Ok, a lot of errors in the log related to EL.. seeing this in the log.. NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.KAS.ILinkPeer.get_cfgLinkType () ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceManager.ConnectedParts (.Part part) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceManager.ProcessParts (.Part part, ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceSet set) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceManager.ProcessParts (.Part part, ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceSet set) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceManager.ProcessParts (.Part part, ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceSet set) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceManager.AddVessel (System.String vesselName, IEnumerable`1 parts, .Part rootPart) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.RMResourceManager..ctor (IEnumerable`1 parts, .Part rootPart, Boolean addVessels, Boolean useFlightID) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELResourceWindow.RebuildSets (.Vessel v) ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELResourceWindow+<WaitAndRebuildSets>c__Iterator0.MoveNext () UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (IEnumerator enumerator, IntPtr returnValueAddress) [LOG 20:38:22.177] [ResourceDisplay] OnAppStarted(): id: -3385084 [LOG 20:38:22.177] [GenericAppFrame] Reposition 0.1614313 104642 [LOG 20:38:22.177] [ResourceDisplay] OnAppStarted(): id: 215116 [LOG 20:38:22.177] ResourceDisplay already exist, destroying this instance [LOG 20:38:22.177] [UIApp] OnDestroy: ResourceDisplay [LOG 20:38:22.178] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1268 [LOG 20:38:22.216] [UIApp] Adding Missions App to Application Launcher [LOG 20:38:22.216] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1268 [LOG 20:38:22.216] CURRENCY WIDGET False False True [LOG 20:38:22.220] [UIApp] OnDestroy: CurrencyWidgetsApp [LOG 20:38:22.242] [UIApp] Adding DeltaVApp to Application Launcher [LOG 20:38:22.242] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1227 [LOG 20:38:22.242] [MissionsApp] OnAppStarted(): id: -3385096 [LOG 20:38:22.242] MissionsApp does not execute in this game mode, destroying this instance [LOG 20:38:22.242] [UIApp] OnDestroy: Missions App [LOG 20:38:22.243] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1227 [LOG 20:38:22.281] [GenericAppFrame] Reposition 0.2653798 104645 [LOG 20:38:22.314] [UIApp] Adding KSPedia to Application Launcher [LOG 20:38:22.315] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1227 [LOG 20:38:22.586] Flight State Captured [LOG 20:38:22.586] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 20:38:22.586] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 20:38:22.586] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 20:38:22.586] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 20:38:22.586] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 20:38:22.586] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 20:38:22.621] [MessageSystem] Save Messages [LOG 20:38:22.843] Game State Saved as persistent [LOG 20:38:24.632] Unpacking Minmus base core lander [LOG 20:38:24.643] Unpacking Minmus base core lander Debris [LOG 20:38:24.670] [UIMasterController]: ShowUI [LOG 20:38:25.400] 6/14/2019 8:38:25 PM,ShipManifest-DfWrapper,Attempting to Grab DeepFreeze Types... [WRN 20:38:31.751] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Auto-Saved Ship [WRN 20:38:31.753] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Eve Drop probe [WRN 20:38:31.758] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_eve Survayor [WRN 20:38:31.760] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_gemini orbiter [WRN 20:38:31.762] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_launch 1 [WRN 20:38:31.764] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_launch 2 [WRN 20:38:31.766] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_launch 3 [WRN 20:38:31.768] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Manned science rover [WRN 20:38:31.771] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Micro rover [WRN 20:38:31.773] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Minmus base core lander [WRN 20:38:31.775] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Minmus direct ascent [WRN 20:38:31.778] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Minmus lander [WRN 20:38:31.780] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_moon probe 1 [WRN 20:38:31.782] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Moon Survayor [WRN 20:38:31.784] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_solar relay [WRN 20:38:31.786] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_SS1 15k RP launch [WRN 20:38:31.788] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_SS1 15k RP [WRN 20:38:31.790] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_SS1 build node [WRN 20:38:31.792] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_SS1 Construciton node [WRN 20:38:31.794] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_SS1 Construction node [WRN 20:38:31.796] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_SS1 docking node [WRN 20:38:31.798] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Station launch 1 [WRN 20:38:31.800] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_VAB_Untitled Space Craft [WRN 20:38:34.693] [ShipConstruction]: No thumbnail image exists for thumbs/science_Subassemblies_K&K Cupola [LOG 20:38:36.975] [DeployedScience]: Calculating Science for Cluster 2612432476 on Minmus. Last Update:2y, 134d Current Time:2y, 134d Time Diff:60.0199986584485 TimeWarpRate:1 [LOG 20:38:44.630] [KSPUpgradePipeline]: K&K Cupola updated from 1.7.1 to 1.7.2. [LOG 20:38:44.641] [MechJeb2] Loading Mechjeb 2.8.3 [LOG 20:38:44.649] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1227 [LOG 20:38:44.695] [EL SurveyStation] KKAOSS.Cupola.g (Part) cap: 1 seats: 0 [LOG 20:38:44.696] K&K Cupola loaded! [LOG 20:38:44.698] [EL craftVessel - K&K Cupola]: Ready to Launch - waiting to start physics... [LOG 20:38:44.742] ScaleModList: listSize 369 maxListSize 1227 [LOG 20:38:44.746] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1227 [EXC 20:38:44.757] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.RequiredResources () ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.WindowGUI (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUILayout+LayoutedWindow.DoWindow (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUI.CallWindowDelegate (UnityEngine.WindowFunction func, Int32 id, Int32 instanceID, UnityEngine.GUISkin _skin, Int32 forceRect, Single width, Single height, UnityEngine.GUIStyle style) [ERR 20:38:44.758] GUI Error: You are pushing more GUIClips than you are popping. Make sure they are balanced) [EXC 20:38:44.760] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.RequiredResources () ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.WindowGUI (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUILayout+LayoutedWindow.DoWindow (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUI.CallWindowDelegate (UnityEngine.WindowFunction func, Int32 id, Int32 instanceID, UnityEngine.GUISkin _skin, Int32 forceRect, Single width, Single height, UnityEngine.GUIStyle style) [ERR 20:38:44.760] GUI Error: You are pushing more GUIClips than you are popping. Make sure they are balanced) [LOG 20:38:44.770] ScaleModList: listSize 328 maxListSize 1227 [EXC 20:38:44.784] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.RequiredResources () ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.WindowGUI (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUILayout+LayoutedWindow.DoWindow (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUI.CallWindowDelegate (UnityEngine.WindowFunction func, Int32 id, Int32 instanceID, UnityEngine.GUISkin _skin, Int32 forceRect, Single width, Single height, UnityEngine.GUIStyle style) [ERR 20:38:44.785] GUI Error: You are pushing more GUIClips than you are popping. Make sure they are balanced) [EXC 20:38:44.788] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.RequiredResources () ExtraplanetaryLaunchpads.ELBuildWindow.WindowGUI (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUILayout+LayoutedWindow.DoWindow (Int32 windowID) UnityEngine.GUI.CallWindowDelegate (UnityEngine.WindowFunction func, Int32 id, Int32 instanceID, UnityEngine.GUISkin _skin, Int32 forceRect, Single width, Single height, UnityEngine.GUIStyle style) [ERR 20:38:44.788] GUI Error: You are pushing more GUIClips than you are popping. Make sure they are balanced) I'm getting many repeats of this last error.. I hope this helps!

I did have a thought when looking at binding robotic parts to axis. Could we add a number of auxiliary axis? so if I had say a 2nd joystick I could use it to control 'other' robotic functions.. for example a 2nd throttle axis on joystick 2 could control thrust vectoring.. or an arm position (or multiple joint positions), or flap extension, or wing folding, etc, etc, etc..