LameLefty

So with the franchise sold, who signed this deal? Who gets any licensing money? I just don’t get this at all. https://estesrockets.com/collections/kerbal-space-program

There’s always AtariAge - over 20 years of deep, searchable forum contents covering almost every retro computer and game console ever made. Admittedly the deepest content is Atari-related. However, there are active forums and discussions devoted to nearly every system ever made. On the off chance there’s not a dedicated forum for something, there are certainly threads covering it. And every time I’ve seen someone ask about some obscure bit of whatever, people have dusted off dusty brain cells and provided info and links. While Al (founder of AtariAge) has recently sold the forum and AA brand to Atari (well, the current company that calls itself “Atari”) that was done to provide support and funding to keep AtariAge’s forums and homebrew game publishing efforts alive. As far as most of us can tell, the forums themselves haven’t changed really at all.

I agree. However, like nearly all game studios this day save MS and at least one flight sim developer I follow, everyone has moved to Discord. And the KSA Discord is … a mess. The Changlog and Dev-Updates channels are great but sparse. The General channel is just a whiplash of content. One minute you’ll have an actual physicist trying to explain plasma dynamics to a bunch of teenagers who haven’t even taken basic high school science; ten minutes later it’s a bunch of fish emojis for some reason; an hour after that another engineer is trying to explain orbital mechanics; then two minutes and fifty messages later it’s kids talking anime. Darn it, I hate that kind of chaos.

The Steam numbers are hardly the complete story. The Outer Worlds was a featured release on XBox GamePass at or shortly after release and several times since. I played it on console and I’m sure many others did as well.

My professional day job these days involves transactional documents. Lots and Lots and LOTS of them. It's common in industry to post public comms as soon as a letter of intent or memorandum of understanding is executed. It's extremely rare, in fact, for comms to wait until a transaction has closed. That is why I was hoping for some kind of announcement after 5:00pm US Eastern time, or thereabouts. In any case, we're still in an info vacuum really, so the bottom line for KSP fans and those otherwise interested in T2's doings or the fate of any PD games basically hasn't changed since spring. Same as it ever was.

The argument over the last page of this thread is kinda ridiculous. Unless someone has good evidence for obfuscation or intent to dissemble or deceive, it seems pretty obvious T2 isn’t holding onto the KSP IP like some kind of ace in their sleeve. As others have aptly noted: they just don’t care. On the whole, KSP has cost them money, time and effort, and they’ve pulled the plug to stem the losses. This is a clean-the-house/fire sale/everything must go! situation for T2, nothing more and nothing less. I was hoping whomever the new owner was would have put out a presser after close of business yesterday - the usual time for such things, after the markets close for the evening and week. However, that doesn’t appear to have happened. So in the meantime, in the absence of info (what else is new?), we wait.

Things are better in City 17. It’s … safer … here.

[INSERT PROFESSOR FARNSWORTH GIF HERE] That’s … something, I guess? Who’s paying for it? While we’re at it, who’s paying for forum hosting fees, maintaining the domain name registry, etc? Really, really thought we’d have heard something substantive by now, even if was “Welp, it was fun but we’re pulling the plug now.”

Welp, this is sad but not unexpected news about the Forums possibly evaporating. I "survived" the Great Forum Derp in 2013 when my then-new account and post history got lost without backups shortly after I joined. I haven't been very active in recent years but still, well over 11 years of my digital history is tied up on these boards and I hate to think of it all just going away. Thanks for nothin', T2.

I don't know what this version means for the future of KSP2, but with a week or so to go until the WARN notice layoffs of the final folks go into effect, SteamDB is still showing 3 different dev branches getting updates daily, most recently 2 hours ago. I expect we'll get one more patch late next week and then it's sayonara, as the lights get turned off and the keycards stop working.

Further, it’s entirely possible for a person to be a fan of both games, for entirely different reasons. KSP lets me remember my engineering degree wasn’t completely worthless, and GTA lets me live through an interactive narrative full of chaos, violence, pathos and absurdist humor. Humans are complicated creatures and a healthy mind is capable of appreciating and enjoying vastly different experiences. (GTA IV had the best story and soundtrack - I will not be taking any questions on this point. So sad when the 10 years rights’ agreement expired and the game had to be patched to remove a bunch of tracks, especially the bangers on Radio Vladivostok. Fortunately, there are online playlists that have all the tracks).

If you’re referring to GTA VI (which will, undoubtedly, end up as one of the most-sold games in history), “about” is not the correct word. With luck, it will be released around November 2025, a solid 17 months from now, assuming that - in true R* tradition - it is not delayed further past then.

LOL, read again. I use Docking Port Alignment Indicator and fly every proximity approach and docking manually. Try again. Also, I learned all the math and theory of orbital mechanics earning my aerospace engineering degree literally 34 years ago. Try a third time. Or don’t. I don’t care - I’ll be disregarding your further efforts to kerbalsplain a topic I mastered before you were likely born yet.

I have over 2,000 hours in KSP 1 going back to March 2013. I run campaigns with dozens of stations, probes, refineries, fuel tugs and transfer stages. I am not "inexperienced" and when I'm trying to manage as many craft at a time as I do, I am not going to fly every one of hundreds of ascents, transfers and rendezvous manually. But hey, you do you.

Mechjeb is great at planning the plane matching and rendezvous maneuvers and in automating the burns (after you've done it all by hand and eyeball a few dozen times, it gets old) but Docking Port Alignment Indicator and flying the prox ops and docking manually is where it's at if you want a sense of accomplishment and if you really want to minimize monoprop usage.