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Only if it's profitable. They are on the game (pun not intended) for the money. No one managed to win a lawsuit against OSI unless the project had broken the rules. The novelty is that, this time, they managed to change the rules. This is serious as it can get - kiss GIT bye bye if this ruling were in effect in 2005 https://lwn.net/Articles/130746/ https://lwn.net/Articles/975099/ TL;DR: BitKeeper considered trying their look on suing a Linux Kernel developer for "reverse engineering" their CMS protocol - when all the dude did was to send a request to their services with the "help" command, what they responded without the need of authentication. You missed the point. Open Source developers are usually not easy to lure by words, they want actions as proof. And the Development Team responded with actions: Do you see the clause 9? They solved it formally publishing the api: https://www.kerbalspaceprogram.com/ksp/api/index.html THIS is the reason it's 100% legal to mod KSP under OSI, because we don't need to do "decompiling" (what's against the EULA) to mod it. You can do a clean room tests using the published API, and this is guaranteed to be 100% legal. Companies can't the trusted. People there come and go, and any deal you have with someone there dies with them. Get everything written and public, otherwise your SAS in on the line. Not if people start to get sued by doing this. You see, we are talking about a Nintendo level of dangerousness. And if Steam closes the Workshop talking about legal issues, you can bet your mouse this is going to cause a commotion. CurseForge, Nexus Games, you name it. As these guys start to get the heat, things will change - not necessarily for the better. This is not about a kid publishing things under a nickname anymore - we are talking about not existing a place to publish these things other than bittorrent.
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totm march 2020 So what song is stuck in your head today?
Lisias replied to SmileyTRex's topic in The Lounge
Mainly due this post: === BRUTE FORCE POST MERGE === Get a good pair of headphones, enhance the bass. There're two things in this song that I absolutely admire: the bass and Turunen's voice. -
No. It's only the testament that he likes his ass and don't want to get it ripped apart on a lawsuit due the NDA he signed. (this is the only part of your post that I disagree)
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Darwin would be proud! Tragic fact: he almost did it right, as it appears. Apparently the implosion happened by the failure of the **GLUE** that kept the carbon fiber hull and the titanium caps tied together. Assuming this is true, the glue may had been weakened by the Sun's heat while being towed. Previously, they used a bigger ship and the sub were used to be transported protected from the direct Sun light.
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Instead of Elon Musk (horrible idea) How about Dean Hall?
Lisias replied to RayneCloud's topic in KSP2 Discussion
Yes, a Facebook game where Kerbals farms on Laythe - and you have to invite 15 "friends" to start every crop!! -
@ColdJ Yep - and when not working, I'm recovering from a flu. Winter is coming around here! Hello @Jacke! Are you in the house?
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Yep. By exactly the reasons I explained above already. Some I'm maintaining, others I'm effectively developing - most at this time were significantly rewritten. Ah, that's the deal: KSP¹ from the very beginning was welcoming to modders. And it was appealing too, it was an indie game, developed by some people cutting their teeth in the industry and learning while doing it. You know, everybody love the underdog. Of course they wanted to. But here is the catch: when a scammer scams a victim, the victim at that time was willing to engage on the scam too! (dramatic example) There are bad people in the World, some make a living on Software. The World would be a better place if naive people could stop helping bad people, and using their efforts for the common good instead for the good of few. We don't write laws (and licenses) for the good men - they don't needed it. We write them due the unethical people. --- -- - POST EDIT - -- --- I forgot something pretty imporant! The original dev team, the one that developed the game up to KSP 1.1.3, had the policy to ask the add'ons published on Forum to be licensed under an OSI license. This surely lured open source devs to KSP, you can be absolutely sure about it!
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You know... These guys would not do bad on Brazilian's Carnival - or even on the Parintins' Boi Bumbá.
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Language barrier. There's "free as in free beer" (or "free as in free lunch"), and "free as in free speech": I don't mind giving a free beer now and then for a friend; I don't think it's right to give free lunches for people that will sell them for profit; and I fiercely defend free speech. When OSI developers do Open Source, they are doing "free as free speech". There's no free lunch, but we can have a Stone Soup. Using KSP¹ as a concrete example: yes, I had to buy KSP¹ to have access to the IP. So, in theory, by working on OSI here I'm also giving them some free beer. However, a lot of people around also did a lot of Open Source work here, that I also use - and use a lot. So, besides giving Squad some free beer, I'm also getting from the fellow add'on authors a lot of code too so I can toy with the thing myself, and it worths the free beer I gave. So, of course Squad had benefited too, but hell, these guys also had provided us with 10 years of updates without further charges, so they are giving back to the Community too, perhaps not on a "free speech" but on a "Stone Soup" style. Now, KSP¹ development was ceased for some years already, and we have adversarial actors treating to screw up the KSP¹ Modding Scene as a mean to solve their own problems disregarding the consequences to us (at best). The virtuous cycle that was keeping KSP¹ alive and kicking is at risk. What we shall do now? Opening the KSP¹ Source Code under a adquate OSI license (and only the Source Code, nobody is asking for "free IP" - just a necessary disclaimer for the casual reader) is my answer to the problem. Keep doing "free beer" will, now, feed the actors that are threatening us.
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Kerbal Space Program 2 (Version 0.3.0 and Version 1.0.0) Hype Train!
Lisias replied to AtomicTech's topic in KSP2 Discussion
The automatic grant of right may not apply to him - it surely doesn't apply to me, my legislation considers null and void any terms of copyright granting without a formal agreement from the copyright holder - i.e., I need to formally agree on granting any rights from stuff I made, mass contracts don't have this power here about this subject. Until I say in a legal bounding way "I'm granting you such rights", TT2 doesn't have any no matter what the EULA says. So, if the automatic grant of rights is null and void for me, the whole clause should be. And so I think I would lose the right to keep exploring the IP after a refund. I doubt Europe (or more specifically, England) doesn't have any similar legislation about and, so, perhaps this may apply to European (and British) users. I couldn't agree more. Fortunately for me, my Country's legislators also do. Go Rumble!- 648 replies
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Lisias replied to AtomicTech's topic in KSP2 Discussion
From the consumer's rights point of view, I agree with him. But there's something else to consider: imagine I'm a youtuber that earnt some money on videos about KSP2 (completely unrelated subject... ). If this dude ask for a refund, they are still entitled to have their videos using KSP2 being published and monetized? After all, any agreement about the subject had ceased to exist with the refund.- 648 replies
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But why doing it "for free"? On OSI, you are contributing back to a pool of resources that you are also using, it's a constructive, self-sustainable feedback. When you do it for non OSI projects, you are essentially working "for free" to someone, without any guarantee about still having access to the thing later, when the owner of the thing decides to go closed source and sell the access. It's good to work on passion, but it's not good to be exploited using it for working for free. These as the good examples, but there're the bad too. Falcon 3.0 is one of the bads. The whole ecosystem was hijacked, with all the mods disappearing and being incorporated in closed sourced competitors for the niche. We have one survivor nowadays, making some serious money - besides all that long forgotten open source projects probably are not there anymore after so many years of improvements, in theory they own their existence to that huge amount of contributors that failed to secure the rights to perpetuate their work as they intended. As I said, one thing is to passionately contribute to a project you love. Other, completely different, is allowing this passion to be used to do free work so someone else make money - in truth, I think that there're some countries around that even criminalize this practice... This is the point I wanted to reach! You can royally screw the Community and the IP by trying such a stunt - but you can , also, startup a new one (smaller, but still profitable to a few ones) using the remains. It was what was made from Falcon 3.0. Do you think that Spectrum Holobyte (or whoever would still have the IP for Falcon 3.0 nowadays) is getting any revenue from the product that managed to survive the Falcon 3.0 community crash? This is the reason I think it's also the current IP owner best interest to publish (under an OSI license that better fits them) the KSP¹ Source Code - to guarantee that they can also earn something back from any derivative project, instead of just having their remains used to kick start another commercial product without getting anything back in the process. The effort now is to prevent the Community from being dismantled in order to have its remains kicking start some "hostile" kickoff. Believe me, there's a chance this is already happening.
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This is called probable cause. It's how the Justice justifies investigating someone when there's no proof the investigated had committed the crime. Since this is a Civil Case matter, there's no Prosecutor deciding to file or not a criminal process, but yet probable cause is considered by the Court while deciding to dismiss or not the lawsuit. What the Bungie engineer said was essentially "I heard a gun firing, but I didn't saw the gun". It's up to the trial to decide if the violation really happened. What Bungie managed to accomplish. This is exactly what I think it is going to be attempted. Why investing your time into something that is not Open Source? When you go OSI, you are contributing back to something you are also using.
