[0.14+] Elderberry Ni V2 Telemetry System version 0.2.1 [bugfix update!]

[spl1nt]

sorry i didnt say it was in this thread .. i was talking about http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=8925.0

i would assume .5.1 is newer but the forum dates say otherwise?? anyway im not looking for moral support from someone who has it working... maybe a suggestion as to what this error means or how i can figure out whats causing the problem

[Crass]

The one in your link is 0.5.1 of Elderberry Ni V1, this thread is for V2, so .2.1 is in fact the latest version.

[Warringer]

Crass speaks the truth. This is a completely new implementation of the original ElderBerry Ni. Version 2.0 actually. So thisv0.2.1 is the latest and you of course have to make sure that you have the latest version of the telemetry plugin.

[spl1nt]

ok .. so i get that .2.1 is the new version ... but as i said i have tried it to and i get this error

Client socket created
Exception in thread 'Thread-3' java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 23
    at elderberryni2.data.container.DataContainer.<init>(DataContainer.java:
33)
    at elderberryni2.Main.run(Main.java:594)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

^^^^and i have the latest telemetry plugin ... does this error mean anything to anyone?

[Corax]

ok .. so i get that .2.1 is the new version ... but as i said i have tried it to and i get this error

Client socket created
Exception in thread 'Thread-3' java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 23
at elderberryni2.data.container.DataContainer.<init>(DataContainer.java:
33)
at elderberryni2.Main.run(Main.java:594)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

^^^^and i have the latest telemetry plugin ... does this error mean anything to anyone?

Just a guess, but which part are you using? If you\'re not using Warringer\'s 'Elderberry Ni Telemetry Antenna V2.0', but the original 'Telemetry Module Mk.2' that comes with my plugin (the disc-shaped one), you probably need to modify [tt]Parts/crxTelemetryMk2/part.cfg[/tt] to make it spit out the format Elderberry expects... most likely those lines:

dataFields = rRoll, rPitch, rYaw, velX, velY, velZ, hdgX, hdgY, hdgZ, accX, accY, accZ, accAbs, ASL, AGL, Lat, Lon, Ref, rho, pStat, pDyn, pMult, temp, UTC, MET, modID
fieldSeparator = \';\'

[spl1nt]

cheers m8 ...i had only tried 2 of the 3 antennas i had ... all sweet now

[VincentMcConnell]

I have a quick question. I haven\'t even tried a Mun flight with this yet, but I was wondering about something. When I enter the Munar sphere of influence, will the reference body on the telemtry window change to 'Mun'?

And also, is there a way for it to display my trajectory? You know that large figure 8 diagrams that Houston had? Does this do that?

[VincentMcConnell]

Does anyone else here that strange sound when it is running or is it just my computer? Like a bunch of 'beepbeepboopbeep'?

[VincentMcConnell]

Can you make a trajectory tab for this?

Basically it would display your current trajectory and a toggleable switch would allow you to make your 'planned' course appear and disappear.

Here is a diagram:

Where the blue line represents the trajectory we\'ve already achieved and the orange represents the course we\'re about to follow. The small blue circle would be our ship\'s current position. But I really want to stress the idea of making the orange line toggleable. I\'m not a big fan of the way it looks while it\'s on, but it\'s important. This would update by the instant just like the ground path tab. It would help tremendously for doing mission control missions across several houses with your friends.

[JebThrillMaster]

SWEET! Download incoming!

[Corax]

Until the original post is updated, here's the link to the telemetry plugin.

I've made a few slight changes with the last update, but I think Elderberry Ni should work with the latest version, too. Let me know if you run into trouble.

Edited August 13, 2012 by Corax
Telus Visibility Enhancer Mk. 5

[Warringer]

Can you make a trajectory tab for this?

Basically it would display your current trajectory and a toggleable switch would allow you to make your 'planned' course appear and disappear.

Here is a diagram:

Where the blue line represents the trajectory we\'ve already achieved and the orange represents the course we\'re about to follow. The small blue circle would be our ship\'s current position. But I really want to stress the idea of making the orange line toggleable. I\'m not a big fan of the way it looks while it\'s on, but it\'s important. This would update by the instant just like the ground path tab. It would help tremendously for doing mission control missions across several houses with your friends.

Nope, not without a way to get the positions for the planets. Besides that would also make a great deal of work that is already achieved in the game itself. I would have to try and model the entire gravity system of the game, something I do not want to try...

While it would be welcome for a second guy playing flight control, I currently see no use in something like that.

[spacemarine998]

On the main page it say "Make sure you got the Telemetry plugin!" but the link is broke. Is this needed to run the plugin?

[Warringer]

This is an external program that receives data from the Telemetry plugin. So you better have the telemetry plugin.

Through it seems to be missing from the plugin development subforum... o_o

Edited August 13, 2012 by Warringer

[Corax]

On the main page it say "Make sure you got the Telemetry plugin!" but the link is broken. Is this needed to run the plugin?

Link to thread, updated to new forum software, is two posts above yours...

This is an external program that receives data from the Telemetry plugin. So you better have the telemetry plugin.

Though it seems to be missing from the plugin development subforum... o_o

I had the thread moved to "Plugin-powered Addon Releases" in the hopes of reaching a broader audience, as it isn't (and never was) exclusively a "Plugin For Addon Devs" (but it is, too).

[togfox]

Running this Elderberry with the 2012-07-26 version of crxTelemetry.

The 'first run' works fine but when I end mission and start a new flight the Elderberry 'graph' clears and fails to work and does weird flashy things. That may not be crx fault but I thought it worth reporting.

You use to be able to fly flight after flight after flight and the Elderberry graph would just overlay each telemetry over the top of the previous which is an awesome way to see efficiency gains. It doesn't do this now. sad face.

[Turnip199]

How does one connect two computers together using this? I'm trying to use this with my friend

[Kumipossu]

Does Elderberry work with 0.17?

I got really excited about this telemetry logging possibility, but so far I've only had Elderberry show one "set" of data, the first one I suppose, when the rocket was still at the pad. I've checked that crxTelemetry module does send data (and I've managed to change what it sends), at least when checked with the UDPlistener.exe included...

I really love this add-on, I want to both check real-time trends and also save all collected data for further analysis. Too bad I can't get it working

[togfox]

The OP last replied back in August so for the moment i'd say he's lost interest. I used it quite a lot so i hope it is restored.

[Kumipossu]

Oh dang!

Togfox, you wouldn't happen to know of any alternative for Elderberry? I'm not a programmer myself, so I couldn't create anything like, so I'm just hoping to find a ready-made solution.

I haven't found anything from these forums or internet searches and only thing I can think of right now is industrial historian server collection, but that's a bit heavy duty and doesn't really have a real-time UI. I really don't have time to configure a historian collector to grab the data sent, either.

Thanks for the note about OP, btw.

[togfox]

Crxtelemetry is theonly option for the moment. I havent even tested that on 0.17 !

[um3k]

Raspberry Pi + Monty Python?

[Corax]

Crxtelemetry is theonly option for the moment. I havent even tested that on 0.17 !

Elderberry Ni is "just" a real-time GUI for crxTelemetry, so one would already be using it. Any graphics suite/Python script/whathaveyou that can continually read in CSV data and update the display could be used; I'm using gnuplot for post-flight data readouts, but it might be possible to tweak that into an almost real-time display...

crxTelemetry is compatible with 0.17, at least I haven't found any glitches yet apart from the crew readouts (just don't use them )

And yes, I guess, "Raspberry Pi(e)" already contains a dose of Monty Python