Jump to content

[Spaceflight] Russia on the Moon by 2029


Recommended Posts

Personalities like von Braun and Korolev come about once every 100 years. Do not wait for such a person again, just people do not understand why do we need all this. This is not the 60's when people dreamed about space, including the moon. Unfortunately we live in a terrible era.

I saw a quote somewhere, I think in the beginning of Nassault's movie, it said: "We were born too late to explore the Earth, and too soon to explore the cosmos." As a 15-year-old I find that statement exceptionally accurate. :(

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I saw a quote somewhere, I think in the beginning of Nassault's movie, it said: "We were born too late to explore the Earth, and too soon to explore the cosmos." As a 15-year-old I find that statement exceptionally accurate. :(

Don't you worry mate. If humans ever explore outside our solar system they will be far from what we know now as 'human'.

Relativistic effects alone make this kind of exploration highly unlikely. Get out there and explore this world.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, there is definitely a world to explore on Earth. Everything cannot be stored in documentaries.

Experiencing things, visiting the vast Earth and its ecosystems is an experience in itself.

Edit: Go Russia !

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I saw a quote somewhere, I think in the beginning of Nassault's movie, it said: "We were born too late to explore the Earth, and too soon to explore the cosmos." As a 15-year-old I find that statement exceptionally accurate. :(

Human : A species of ape with a low IQ, more prey, fewer predaters, violent, obnoxious, lazy, fat, and is always complaining.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's no joke, but about 1-2 years ago has proposed to amend the "So1yuz" and fly around the moon, but thought it was meaningless solution. Just because of the sanctions has been reduced space budget by 10%.

Luna-Glob slows because of pride, because RK decided by the maximum unsubscribe from foreign materials, and those that can not make a purchase from China (which is not really inspire confidence :)). Because of this, the start was moved to 2019. As we still fresh memory of "Phobos-Grunt", the second error, no one wants to .

All bets placed on the "Angara 5V", that is, the hangar has already been created, they just want to replace the third stage and lifted into space up to 35 tons. To launch manned spacecraft will certainly need to launch two missiles and join them in orbit. It is very difficult to believe and Roscosmos is not necessary, although faith umeraet last.

http://kosmolenta.com/images/luna/lunas-rus.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I saw a quote somewhere, I think in the beginning of Nassault's movie, it said: "We were born too late to explore the Earth, and too soon to explore the cosmos." As a 15-year-old I find that statement exceptionally accurate. :(

Still plenty to explore on earth and we are already exloring the cosmos with missions like kepler etc. We actually live in a pretty great time if you ask me. It could off course be better but we shouldnt complain about the time we live in

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Interesting information from Roscosmos came just a few hours ago.

Quote:

The project of the Federal Space Program for 2016 - 2025 years of manned flight around the Moon provides, and by 2029 it is planned to land on the moon astronauts land, said the head of Roscosmos, Igor Komarov.

According to the head of Roscosmos, in an updated draft of the PCF "additionally included work on the creation of the launch vehicle of the middle class of the new generation, as well as the carrier rocket heavy class increased capacity up to 35 tons (low orbit)," writes the "Interfax". The first flight of a new ship to be held in 2021.

Previously, "FederalPress" reported that the Federal Space Agency has adjusted the space program that will run until 2025: costs have been reduced by more than 400 billion rubles.

Considered two main options for saving. The first involves reducing the cost of establishing a manned transport spacecraft, controls for deep space exploration, orbiters service, as well as adjustments to the lunar program. The second involved the shifting of timing devices readiness scientific and economic purposes, reducing the number of starts ships "Progress", as well as reducing the number of satellites.

Following the meeting of scientific and technical council of the Russian Space Agency has been decided to stop at the second option.

Edited by DECQ
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Unfortunately for fans of the Russian space program, they just announced that due to budget cuts, they are removing the creation of a Super-Heavy launch rocket from their plans. The budget is being cut by a full third over the next 10 years.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/04/22/us-russia-crisis-space-idUKKBN0ND1ZV20150422

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Unfortunately for fans of the Russian space program, they just announced that due to budget cuts, they are removing the creation of a Super-Heavy launch rocket from their plans. The budget is being cut by a full third over the next 10 years.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/04/22/us-russia-crisis-space-idUKKBN0ND1ZV20150422

Yes we know, it was announced a few months ago, they are instead developing a more powerful version of Angara-5 fuelled by LH2. They said 35 tonnes to orbit was the goal, 3 of those could launch a small expedition but either way it isn't going to happen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A5-V should be viable, given interest by the Russian military in heavy GEO missions, but lunar missions would depend on the state of the economy after A5-V is ready. I don't imagine it'll be all sunshine and lollipops by that point, but there is at least a chance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Without economic recovery, they won't be able to spend any money on space program within two years. And I don't see the economy recovering without a regime change. If the later happens, we can start discussing further projections. Right now, it's a pointless discussion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's true that the space race was borne out of ICBM development, but Saturn V was way too big to be an ICBM. Russia's Proton (which carried about 1/6 of the payload capacity as the Saturn V) was originally planned to be a super-heavy ICBM, but then it was realized that it would be oversized for that purpose.

The N1 was planned to be an ICBM and was rather larger than the Saturn V.

Remember that those generations of ICBMs were launched from pads on the surface, not from silos. Size was less of a problem as there was no real attempt to either conceal or protect them.

Tyuratam (now Baykunur), Plesetsk, and Vandenberg started as ICBM launch facilities (Cape Canaveral was a test site mostly, not an operational launch site), not space launch facilities.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This space program created by the circumstances, given the current economy, there is a list of what RK refused. But while this program is not approved course of her early to tell. I am pleased that we are increasingly began to talk about the moon, the main thing that these words are not empty okozalos than not squeamish RK. Simply put if Putin want a villa on the moon, or Gazprom will see a drop of oil At least then we will fly to the moon in 2-3 years. :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The N1 was planned to be an ICBM and was rather larger than the Saturn V.

Remember that those generations of ICBMs were launched from pads on the surface, not from silos. Size was less of a problem as there was no real attempt to either conceal or protect them.

Tyuratam (now Baykunur), Plesetsk, and Vandenberg started as ICBM launch facilities (Cape Canaveral was a test site mostly, not an operational launch site), not space launch facilities.

The N1 wasn't "planned to be an ICBM". It was planned to be a Moon rocket.

There were ideas floating around to use the N1 to deliver the 50MT Tsar Bomba, but no one really took the military applications of the Tsar Bomba seriously, let alone using the N1 to deliver it. The soviet military considered that one big rocket on one big launch pad was too vulnerable for military applications. Instead they preferred to have a multitude of mobile launchers to ensure redundancy.

Edited by Nibb31
Link to comment
Share on other sites

This thread is quite old. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...