1.1.2 Magic Smoke Industries Infernal Robotics 2.0.2

[brusura]

UPDATE: Ok, I found the "problem" for some reason ( maybe stability anti exploding?  ) the parts start locked when building with KIS, unlocked them and all worked

 

Hello, quick question that I could not find, is it possible to build IR things with KIS ? I can assemble them quite nice edit the groups , make new group, but when I click the arrow to make parts move , nothing happen, no EC consumed no sounds. Things built in the VAB works perfectly.

Is this a known bug? if not I'll provide all info, logs and reproduction steps. I have made a little video to show:

 

Thanks

Edited June 19, 2016 by brusura

[Insanitic]

Update on my IR part drift issue.

I did some further testing and determined that it is a mod conflict with IR robotics that is causing the part drifting issue after time warp as mentioned in page 51. I deleted all mods except hyperedit and IR robotics and there was no drifting issue. But when I ran my 50+ mods, the drifting started again after time warp. Now, the next step is to determine what mod is causing the robotic parts to drift out of alignment.

Anyone have any advice on how to test conflicting mods out of 50 or so mods without restarting the game 100 or so times?

[Brigadier]

@Insanitic, not really.  Take half of the mods out and test.  If the problem doesn't repeat, add half of the remaining ones, etc.  Should not have to restart 100 times.

[Ziw]

7 hours ago, Insanitic said:

Update on my IR part drift issue.

I did some further testing and determined that it is a mod conflict with IR robotics that is causing the part drifting issue after time warp as mentioned in page 51. I deleted all mods except hyperedit and IR robotics and there was no drifting issue. But when I ran my 50+ mods, the drifting started again after time warp. Now, the next step is to determine what mod is causing the robotic parts to drift out of alignment.

Anyone have any advice on how to test conflicting mods out of 50 or so mods without restarting the game 100 or so times?

You can leave part only mods in place (mods without dll), they should not affect anything. 

I'd start with TweakScale and similar mods (MFT, ProceduralParts) - they are the most likely suspects.

7 hours ago, brusura said:

UPDATE: Ok, I found the "problem" for some reason ( maybe stability anti exploding?  ) the parts start locked when building with KIS, unlocked them and all worked

This is due to the fact, that when KIS spawns an IR part - it has no parent until you attach it. In this situation IR plugin goes into "safe" mode.

[Kram45]

I've been wanting to use an arm on my station for a while but this happens every time i get it on to the station. 

 

[Ziw]

58 minutes ago, Kram45 said:

I've been wanting to use an arm on my station for a while but this happens every time i get it on to the station. 

 

Your arm is assembled incorrectly. Yellow arrows on the parts indicate the fixed half, the half of the part that IR considers the anchor point. Your hinges are assembled in reverse.

 

[Kram45]

23 minutes ago, Ziw said:

Your arm is assembled incorrectly. Yellow arrows on the parts indicate the fixed half, the half of the part that IR considers the anchor point. Your hinges are assembled in reverse.

 

Silly me! thanks man

[Ziw]

For me IR works in 1.1.3

Thus I'll wait with a new release to include some new features. Although I don't have much time for KSP recently.

[Supergamervictor]

I'd like to help on the missing SPH UI issue, as I solved it for not just IR but BDArmory's UI as well. The culprit for me was ModCategorizer (foldername: WildBueIndustries). Removing it brings back the UI.

Also, can there be an uncontrolled rail? Like a gantry but uncontrolled. I'm trying to make a arrestor system and I can't figure out how this guy did it

 

Edited June 24, 2016 by Supergamervictor

[KerbalKyle45kk]

I Had Trouble with IF Beause i dont know how to make them Move.

[SkippydaHippie]

I've just attempted to install IR with MSI's rework. I'm doing a science only save file, and I can see many of the parts in the tech tree, some of which should be unlocked. All the structural stuff is available in VAB, like the robotrusses and whatnot, I also see the utilitron grabber under utility, however no robotics tab appears and the actual robotics parts are nowhere to be found.

[Ziw]

9 hours ago, SkippydaHippie said:

I've just attempted to install IR with MSI's rework. I'm doing a science only save file, and I can see many of the parts in the tech tree, some of which should be unlocked. All the structural stuff is available in VAB, like the robotrusses and whatnot, I also see the utilitron grabber under utility, however no robotics tab appears and the actual robotics parts are nowhere to be found.

It means IR plugin is not installed correctly. Post a screenshot of your GameData/MagicSmokeIndustries folder

[SkippydaHippie]

2 hours ago, Ziw said:

It means IR plugin is not installed correctly. Post a screenshot of your GameData/MagicSmokeIndustries folder

I figured I had done something wrong, that's how it always goes... Thanks for getting back to me, here's the screen

[Ziw]

10 hours ago, SkippydaHippie said:

I figured I had done something wrong, that's how it always goes... Thanks for getting back to me, here's the screen

Is the InfernalRobotics.dll inside Plugins folder?

If yes, then I'll need your KSP.log to see what the problem is

[SkippydaHippie]

2 minutes ago, Ziw said:

Is the InfernalRobotics.dll inside Plugins folder?

If yes, then I'll need your KSP.log to see what the problem is

It is not, there is a config file there but that is all. I actually can't find InfernalRobotics.dll anywhere..

[SkippydaHippie]

4 hours ago, Ziw said:

Is the InfernalRobotics.dll inside Plugins folder?

If yes, then I'll need your KSP.log to see what the problem is

I figured it out, looks like it's working now. Thanks for taking the time!

[darkracer125]

is there a way to increase the rigidness of the robotics parts.

currently trying to move around a pretty heavy load and as you can see at the arrows. http://prntscr.com/blaah0 there is a huge stress on them.

i have already been messing around with the part files.  but the default setting of the "springyness"  jointSpring = 0   is already zero.   i set the dampning to 100

but it's still unmanageable. 

what does joint spring do exactly?   (ps the stress makes it work like a rubber band.  if i were to turn gravity off it would launch the load into the air) 

adding struts does not work because it makes the part immobile

[kcs123]

3 hours ago, darkracer125 said:

is there a way to increase the rigidness of the robotics parts.

currently trying to move around a pretty heavy load and as you can see at the arrows. http://prntscr.com/blaah0 there is a huge stress on them.

i have already been messing around with the part files.  but the default setting of the "springyness"  jointSpring = 0   is already zero.   i set the dampning to 100

but it's still unmanageable. 

what does joint spring do exactly?   (ps the stress makes it work like a rubber band.  if i were to turn gravity off it would launch the load into the air) 

adding struts does not work because it makes the part immobile

Have you tried with KJR ? It strenght out all joints (usefull for all crafts), not only IR joints. I highly recommend to try it, if you didn't already.

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

10 hours ago, darkracer125 said:

is there a way to increase the rigidness of the robotics parts.

currently trying to move around a pretty heavy load and as you can see at the arrows. http://prntscr.com/blaah0 there is a huge stress on them.

i have already been messing around with the part files.  but the default setting of the "springyness"  jointSpring = 0   is already zero.   i set the dampning to 100

but it's still unmanageable. 

what does joint spring do exactly?   (ps the stress makes it work like a rubber band.  if i were to turn gravity off it would launch the load into the air) 

adding struts does not work because it makes the part immobile

 

6 hours ago, kcs123 said:

Have you tried with KJR ? It strenght out all joints (usefull for all crafts), not only IR joints. I highly recommend to try it, if you didn't already.

 

 

 

I actually have the same question, though I've not tried hardening the joint yet. 

I'm working on a B-1b, which at the wing joint has an absolutely BEASTLY revolute joint.   I'm using a foldatron for the part, and it works amazingly.  However, under wing loading in KSP, the part's point of contact with the wing base is stressed massively, resulting in a highly unstable wing that wobbles under minor G loading.  (We're talking, wobbly, 25 degree upwards bending of the sweep-wings when under takeoff loads.)  I'd like to harden the joint without invoking KJR universal joint stiffening.

[Ziw]

7 hours ago, AdmiralTigerclaw said:

I'm working on a B-1b, which at the wing joint has an absolutely BEASTLY revolute joint.   I'm using a foldatron for the part, and it works amazingly.  However, under wing loading in KSP, the part's point of contact with the wing base is stressed massively, resulting in a highly unstable wing that wobbles under minor G loading.  (We're talking, wobbly, 25 degree upwards bending of the sweep-wings when under takeoff loads.)  I'd like to harden the joint without invoking KJR universal joint stiffening.

Try using uncontrolled docking washer as a pivot point and drive it through extendatron/slider. This combo was reported to work for sweeping wings.

 

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

I've got it working with a pivotron, but man, it sees the internal joint of the servo as a springy joint.

EDIT: (And I've wandered into the active-strut bits.  Playing around with them.)

EDIT2: (And DO NOT under any circumstances change the strut enforcement while under flight load.  My aircraft disintegrated so hard the remains that crashed into the runway obliterated the runway segment it hit.)

Edited June 27, 2016 by AdmiralTigerclaw

[kcs123]

@AdmiralTigerclaw. @varsass have inspired me to do similar system as he showed in this post.

Here is first solution, based on his post.

After adopting of his tips, I come to even better solution:

 

And attemt to create heavy craft with foldable wings leaded to even more simple and stronger solution, although, doing this on extremly heavy craft is still not good idea.
But something for up to 60t craft is feasible.

 

You can find more info in KCS Space Planes Craft Repository thread and link for download craft examples and subassemblies for foldable wings, ready to be used.

Edited June 28, 2016 by kcs123
found typo

[DrLicor]

So I'm building the ISS, yes I know, it's not very original.

But I try to do it just like how it really happened. And that means with a lot of robotic arm work.

Here a some results. I the speed of the arm to 0.1 and the acc to 0.5. This will prevent wobble.

I'll upload more if you guys like it.

And sorry for the bad English

 

 

[Jaymee_Murder]

On the CKAN installer there isnt a tickbox for infernal robotics and it says max ksp version 1.1.2, is there any way around this? ive not modded ksp before and i'd like to keep it all on CKAN since it looks easier to manage.

[Adam Kerman]

just got the mod and I am not seeing the robotics tab in the hanger