Be wary oh ye travelers

[Randazzo]

I just crashed into pol.. at a kilometer and half up. You can see the intended landing zone below, covered in little christmas trees or little piles of green

ROCKS.

[KerikBalm]

have a quicksave?

Can you reproduce this?

Was timewarp/physcs warp involved?

[mikegarrison]

Pol was always strange for me in previous versions of KSP. For some reason, Mechjeb thought that the surface of Pol was very different than the visual surface. It would do things like try to land me way above the surface. Now you just crashed way above the surface. Coincidence?

[Brotoro]

I exploded so many times driving around Pol, it wasn't funny. But the glitches of death seemed to be confined to one hemisphere, more or less.

[timsfitz]

Yeah , this happened to me as well a few months ago. Had to land on a mountain.

[Randazzo]

have a quicksave?

Of course.

Can you reproduce this?

I'd rather not. It was quite distressing.

Was timewarp/physcs warp involved?

No.

[KerbMav]

Had this too, was reproducable, was to dumb to take shots and file a report.

[Geschosskopf]

Yeah, Pol's collider is WELL above the surface in a number of places. Landing there is quite dangerous because you'll crash when still like 1500m above the actual surface. Pol is the unholy spawn of the Daemon Sultan Azathoth.

[mikegarrison]

So ... what's broken about Pol? How does the definition of solid objects work in KSP? It seems like there are at least two different surfaces for Pol, one that is used visually and another one that blew up your ship (and that Mechjeb seems to be looking for).

[Geschosskopf]

So ... what's broken about Pol? How does the definition of solid objects work in KSP? It seems like there are at least two different surfaces for Pol, one that is used visually and another one that blew up your ship (and that Mechjeb seems to be looking for).

I dunno. Last time I was at Pol, MJ was looking for the visible surface, saying how high above it the ship way (which agreed with the altimeter) and then BOOM. Ship collided with Pol about 1500m up.

There's a sort of mountain range running E-W just south of the equator on 1 side of Pol. The north side of this is one of the most dangerous places to land, although there are others, all near large mountains. It's like the collider and the surface mesh are misaligned.

NOTE: Pol is the worst in this regard but isn't alone. Gilly also has the same problem in places.

[mikegarrison]

Yeah, I have seen this on Gilly too.

Man, do I hate Gilly. There is almost no gravity, plus you can't timewarp below 6km, so unless you turn around and burn down to the surface it takes forever to land there. And then the landings are bugged on top of all that!

[Shpaget]

What does the radar altimeter say how high are you?

[Randazzo]

What does the radar altimeter say how high are you?

I wasn't in IVA, don't know what the reading was, but that's a spiffy idea you've got there. I'll keep an eye on it when I go back this evening.