biohazard15 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Apprently, some time ago you've introduced a blacklist for some words.And apparently, those who implemented it weren't a pros.....eprþnePlease, guys, don't do such things if you don't understand how they work (obviously you don't) and how they can actually hurt a normal user. Pretty please?(In case someone wonder, there is a Cyrillic "o" in a second "prþne" The first "prþne" has a normal Latin "o". Bam, blacklist engaged.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Wait, what? Why would "....e" be censored? "....e" to blow up on lauch, "....e" to yaw this way or that...It is! How strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norpo Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Wait, what? Why would "....e" be censored? "....e" to blow up on lauch, "....e" to yaw this way or that...It is! How strange!It's the Scunthorpe problem (tvtropes) [alternate wikipedia] [naturally the links contain language that would be filtered here]. Basically, a perfectly good word gets partially (or totally) censored because it has a blacklisted one inside. It's nothing new, it was a problem back in 1996, and it's still a problem in many internet forums today. Edited May 16, 2015 by Norpo nsfw warning so I don't get ban hammered for explaining it properly and providing sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Yeah, I do programming myself, but the reason why those four letters would be censored eludes me.Unless it can detect spelling variations.Now I feel awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The profanity filter has been around forever, though the list of terms has changed from time to time (e.g. April Fool's 2014 had it censor all Ks). Unfortunately, it doesn't support sophisticated regular expressions, it just dumbly censors any occurrence of the character string. Basically, what Norpo said.The four character string in question is on the list because it's a popular filter evasion for, uh, certain content meant for adults only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The four character string in question is on the list because it's a popular filter evasion for, uh, certain content meant for adults only.That's what I thought. And simply filtering the dumb string makes perfect sense, though it is moderately annoying.Edit: "dumb" as in the simple list of x characters, not an expression of anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 The profanity filter has been around forever, though the list of terms has changed from time to time (e.g. April Fool's 2014 had it censor all Ks). Unfortunately, it doesn't support sophisticated regular expressions, it just dumbly censors any occurrence of the character string. Basically, what Norpo said.The four character string in question is on the list because it's a popular filter evasion for, uh, certain content meant for adults only.Funny, but "prþn" wasn't added until recently. I've noticed it in my thread about KSP Winx64 first; it was "x64 version is unstable and ....e to crashing". And I remember perfectly that there was NO such censorship when I've created that thread.And I would not agree, Starwhip. In this case, it IS dumb, not "moderately annoying". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 biohazard15, I'm not sure when it was added, though I know some changes were made to the filter list recently. I'll bounce the idea of removing it from the list off the admins and see what can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 biohazard15, I'm not sure when it was added, though I know some changes were made to the filter list recently. I'll bounce the idea of removing it from the list off the admins and see what can be done.These filters actually are used only by newbie admins - like "hey, that's a nice feature that would help us do our job!". No, guys, it won't. Seriously. All it really can do is to annoy normal users. I totally agree on banning things like F-word or B-word, but not things like "prþn" (which itself was invented as a way to circumvent word filter, LOL) or other strings that may occasionally form "normal" words.And trolls and such will ALWAYS find a way around the filter, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norpo Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Would it be possible to just filter out words that have spaces between? As in " [word] ". Note the spaces on the sides. I would think this would make it search for the string AND the spaces, avoiding it being censored if it was found with letters next to them, then again, I know no details of the exact filter in place.A workaround for sloppy programming, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Would it be possible to just filter out words that have spaces between? As in " [word] ". Note the spaces on the sides. I would think this would make it search for the string AND the spaces, avoiding it being censored if it was found with letters next to them, then again, I know no details of the exact filter in place.A workaround for sloppy programming, methinks.That should be possible, based on my own text-match algorithms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINCRAFTER Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 P R O N E doesn't have a bad word in there, the R and the O would be in switched places to make it a bad word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Prone.Just a test...EDIT: Wut... Might it have changed? The word worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zucal Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 pronePronePRONE(prone)zpronezHmm, I guess one of the mods tweaked it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4pt0r Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Would it be possible to just filter out words that have spaces between? As in " [word] ". Note the spaces on the sides. I would think this would make it search for the string AND the spaces, avoiding it being censored if it was found with letters next to them, then again, I know no details of the exact filter in place.A workaround for sloppy programming, methinks.Thats not exactly perfect because I could just say xnaughtywordx. The nature of the system means it cant be perfect. either its too protective, or too loose that people can circumvent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biohazard15 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 ProneOkay, that was fixed. Thanks!I hope all other such things were removed from the blacklist as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Let's please not have a thread testing out which terms will and will not go through the filter. If you find a term that's being erroneously blocked, just PM a moderator about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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