My UFO encounter

[RainDreamer]

Well, the problem is with the identifying part. People will identify an unidentified thing with something most resemble their belief. I can totally explain a lot of stuff if I say they are actually beings from higher dimensions attempting to contact us, and that they are not actually moving across space from anywhere at all, but simply existing on the same space as earth in another dimension.

But of course, none of that makes my story (not theory, what I wrote is not based on anything at all nor an educated guess) any truer than the next person guess. But I like to engage in this kind of talk as it is quite simulating for the imaginative mind. It gives me ideas for scifi stories.

[Canopus]

I think it is possible that Aliens or just their spacecraft visit us, but Greys and Titanian Fishthiefs fighting over earth?

Edited May 28, 2015 by Canopus

[Albert VDS]

Neil deGrasse Tyson explains it the best way in this video:

forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/123384-My-UFO-encounter?p=1978328#post1978328

[RobotsAndSpaceships]

ITT: probably just helicopters in the distance.

[peadar1987]

The Titan Theory:

Aliens could originate from within our own Solar System. So close, actually that it may be right under our noses. Specifically, I'm talking about the Saturn moon of Titan. The reason I suggest such a close target? Simple. During the Opposition of Saturn yearly.. There is a slight increase in UFO sightings as I found out during research regarding my sighting to make sure that I wasn't seeing the ISS or some other orbiting object. These UFOs could originate from the Titan moon. Some evidence (but not fully solid) to back up can be found in some of the Saturn Radio emissions which is eerie themselves if it isn't ET. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUaE9hoWvpQ: 4:39. Saturn should appear.). The radio emissions have according to some people garbled text that says some spooky words. Now. If aliens were indeed to come from Titan. They would most likely be Aquatic-based ET that could possibly breathe Titan's atmosphere and also Earth's atmosphere. This seems unlikely, but it would explain the vast majority of UFO sightings around water. Perhaps the Aquatic ET are abducting fish? Maybe they need to refill water, similar to whales? However, this blows a deep hole in to the grays theory. What if the Grays and said Aquatic-ET are rival factions that battle for Titan as a outpost of some sorts? I'll make some points in how this theory could be deemed plausible and not so plausible.

PLAUSIBLE THINGS ABOUT THE TITAN THEORY:

• 1. Explains UFO sightings on open sea or UFOs seen leaving from under water.
  
• 2. Explains UFO sightings around Saturn's Opposition.
  
• 3. Could possibly explain the Saturn Radio Emissions if the source is not from Saturn's weather patterns as originally thought.
  

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IMPLAUSIBLE THINGS ABOUT THE TITAN THEORY:

• 1. Does not explain the Grays nor the vast majority of abduction stories regarding Grays and their home in the Zeta star-region despite no exosolar planets.
  
• 2. Does not explain UFO sightings outside of Saturn's Opposition.
  
• 3. Does not explain previous alien theories set in history.
  

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I know it seems quite far fetched, but worth a thought. The anatomy of said aquatic creatures could be Humanoid or resemble something like a Squid with arms.

Perhaps as of now, we are in fact in the middle of a intergalactic battle that's taking place right under our noses?

If there are aliens capable of easy interplanetary travel, reactionless drives, and near perfect stealth technology, Saturn being in opposition or not isn't going to make a difference to how easy it is for them to get to earth.

Additionally, Titan's surface is at -180 degrees celsius Its seas are liquid ethane, its soil is frozen butane and tholins. Anything capable of surviving on Titan would boil alive on earth. Anything capable of surviving on earth would freeze solid on Titan. Titan's atmosphere is also almost 100% nitrogen, with trace amounts of hydrocarbons. It is unlikely that anything could breathe it, given the chemical stability of molecular nitrogen.

[Albert VDS]

Aliens do they exist? It's highly likely, considering the unimaginable numbers of stars in the universe (estimated from 10^22 to 10^24).

Do they visit us? Let's see how likely that is. The closest star to us is Alpha Centauri, actually 3 stars Alpha Centauri A, B and then there is Proxima Centauri.

This system is 4.24 light years away from us. So they would need to go the speed of light to reach us in 4.24 years.

Other than the physical limitations of living things, reaching the speed of light is not cheap.

You would need an infinite amount of energy to reach the speed of light.

"But Aliens don't need to an infinite amount of energy to reach the speed of light, because they use an Alcubierre drive" I hear you say.

May I add that aliens don't call it an Alcubierre drive, they call it an Qrt#-fwee drive with an emphasis on the #.

Ok, they spend their time to build spacecraft capable of traveling anywhere in the universe.

They pack their food maker 3000 and their world's version of 70's sitcoms and some disco,

and head straight for Earth? Let's not get into why, they just want to go here.

So they finally reach Earth and what the thing they do?

Fly over land at an altitude where most of the dominant Earth creatures have their flying machines and weather balloons.

Cause that's what they are going to do. Who would want to communicate with other life, just fly in the midst of nights and create crop circles.

"But aliens are restricted from contacting less developed beings, as to not interfere with the evolution and such".

Then why don't the ultra-smart, warp-drive-creating, galaxy-traveling beings create a cloak to hide themselves?

Seriously who of you thinks it's a good idea to go through all that unimaginable trouble of going to an inhabited exo-planet and not communicating with it.

That's like walking and swimming to the other side of the world and hide in the bushes just to oogle at people. It's insane.

[Canopus]

Seriously who of you thinks it's a good idea to go through all that unimaginable trouble of going to an inhabited exo-planet and not communicating with it.

That's like walking and swimming to the other side of the world and hide in the bushes just to oogle at people. It's insane.

You can't just take human motivation and intentions and project them onto some hypothetical alien. I would even say that doing that is nearly as bad as saying that there are grey aliens abducting Peoples livestock right in this moment.

[Mr Shifty]

Meteors occur on a regular basis -- look like streaks in the sky at very high speed in random directions. I'm by no means a serious stargazer, but I'd estimate even not during the Leonids, that I can count on seeing at least one meteor every time I look at the stars for an hour or more.

[Albert VDS]

You can't just take human motivation and intentions and project them onto some hypothetical alien. I would even say that doing that is nearly as bad as saying that there are grey aliens abducting Peoples livestock right in this moment.

So you think it's likely that alien motivation is: spend a large amount of resources and time to just fly over an exoplanet and not make yourself know?

[Canopus]

So you think it's likely that alien motivation is: spend a large amount of resources and time to just fly over an exoplanet and not make yourself know?

I can't tell you. Everything is possible and the more advanced your civilization is the more power every individual has. They could just do it for fun or maybe it is a sport. The point is that we can't know what they would do and why they would do it. Edited May 28, 2015 by Canopus

[Findthepin1]

I saw a thing a couple years ago. There was a weird spinning cloud. It was about 280-300 arcminutes across at its widest (from my point of view), and circular (not from my point of view which was to the side). It was a cloudy day but the weird cloud had blue sky in it. It moved a distance of its own apparent diameter about once every 4 seconds, and spun about once in 2 seconds. It left a trail of blue sky of its width behind it. This was in northwest New England at about noon. I'm not sure if it qualifies as a UFO because UFOs are by definition flying, and I don't know if neutral buoyancy counts as flying.

[Greenfire32]

I am normally a skeptical person who demands evidence before I can support a claim, but there are two phenomenons that I accept unconditionally and the ONLY reason I do so, is because I've experienced both myself: ghosts and UFOs.

*Gasp* he said ghosts

I know, I know. I just got my science card revoked for saying that, but it's true. It was much too real to be a mere hallucination and it was corroborated by other people. Not to mention the environment itself was affected. Now that being said, I don't hear something at night and immediately scream "g-g-g-g-ghosts!" I am MUCH more confident that there's a rational explanation and 99.999999999999% of the time there is one. But I will NEVER deny that the 0.000000000001% DID happen.

I have much the same views regarding UFOs. When I see something odd in the sky, I don't immediately go straight to "its aliens" but I DID have an experience that solidified my stance on them.

So I guess I'm trying to say that I'll still ask for copious amounts of evidence when it comes to the unexplainable because that's the kind of person I am, however, as I've had my own experiences, I'm also willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

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So now onto my UFO experience:

It was when I was just old enough to be left home alone (around 12-14ish years old). From my window, you can sometimes see airplanes landing at our local airport (its a really small airport, only puddlejumpers fly in and out). I didn't live in town at the time, so I'll admit, it wasn't the best view.

One night I was home alone and I looked out the window just as a plane was coming in. It was dark enough that you couldn't actually see the plane itself, just the flashing wing-tip lights. I watched it sink below the tree lines and disappear. Then, just a few minutes later as I walked past the window again, I saw another plane (or the same one, I dunno) take off from the airport.

But there was this red light following it. Disconnected from the plane, like a bulb attached to a string, and in fact that's what I thought it was: a streamer of some kind with a light on the end. It followed the plane EXACTLY. Same flight path, same rise and fall in altitude. Same twists and turns.

The plane flew in a circular pattern over the airport for a really long time, which isn't something that needs to happen as I said above, the airport is small. Just single-engine propeller planes, no jets and certainly no crowded airspace: usually just one or two planes arrive/leave a day.

Then the plane landed.

The light didn't.

The light hovered over the airport for what seemed like ages. Then it shot across the sky horizontally until I couldn't see it anymore. Up until this point, I didn't really think aliens or UFOs I just thought "that's odd." But when it shot across the sky in the manner that it did, leaving a visible streak of red light behind it, the sheer SPEED that whatever it was moved at was what brought me to the conclusion that whatever I was looking at was not man made. Couldn't be.

Nothing we have can hover and then cover a distance that large in the span of a single second.

This experience, however grounded in superstitious belief and lack of any real tangible evidence, is single-handedly responsible for my interest in space.

Which kind of sucks, because whenever people ask me why I'm so interested in sciences and how things work, the only real answer I can give them is because I've experienced things that SHOULD be impossible. Science says ghosts don't exist, and I am a man of science. Science says Aliens have never been here, and I am a man of science.

But I can't deny what I've experienced.

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Similarily, I refuse to believe in a god because not only is there NO evidence of one, but being raised in religion I found that there was nothing to experience myself. I tried many many times to get some kind of confirmation of angels, demons, god himself and never once found anything that wasn't the doing of some person out there.

So, and this is very strange for me to admit, I maintain that science is the end-all, be-all of everything and more or less live by the facts and yet I accept that ghosts and aliens exist unconditionally because of my own experiences, however I absolutely REFUTE god every single time.

Something's wrong with me on that. I am not a man of faith AT ALL. Yet my belief in ghosts and aliens could arguably be called "faith." Such a paradox if I ever saw one.

[Technical Ben]

I once saw what I can only describe as a meteor with trail in the early afternoon. Sky was a darker blue as it was approaching evening, the smoke/trail did not linger, and it seems to large to be contrails. Though we do get fighter planes practising a lot around here.

I'm not sure if I saw it brighten as a meteor does on burnup, so hard to know if it was a rock or a plane.

[michaelsteele3]

I thought this thread would be something else

[Canopus]

Everything is possible, but the likelihood of it being true is much smaller than it being a terrestrial object or your brain playing tricks on you.

Assuming things like " the more advanced your civilization is the more power every individual has" or "for fun or maybe it is a sport" is just a way of trying justify it being aliens.

I'm not justifying anything and i'm sure most sightings can easily explained as planets, weatherballoons or fireflies but you shouldn't rule them all out. We just don't know so we should keep an open mind.

[Robotengineer]

Reasonable explanations for UFO sightings!

• It could have been a satellite!
  
• It could have been an Iridium flare!
  
• It could have been an airplane!
  
• It could have been something else!
  

[Albert VDS]

You can't just take human motivation and intentions and project them onto some hypothetical alien. I would even say that doing that is nearly as bad as saying that there are grey aliens abducting Peoples livestock right in this moment.

Like this:

I can't tell you. Everything is possible and the more advanced your civilization is the more power every individual has. They could just do it for fun or maybe it is a sport. The point is that we can't know what they would do and why they would do it.

[Canopus]

Like this:

Your point is?

[Jonboy]

This is a great UFO-story-swapping thread, but what exactly does it have to do with science?

[crubs]

Aliens do they exist? It's highly likely, considering the unimaginable numbers of stars in the universe (estimated from 10^22 to 10^24).

Whenever someone makes this argument, you have to keep in mind that it's a completely subjective probability. What if the probability of life "appearing" on any given planet is 10^-1000? In that case, the fact that life exists at all is statistically a miracle. At this point, the hypothesis that Earth holds the only life in the universe is completely valid.

Similarily, I refuse to believe in a god because not only is there NO evidence of one, but being raised in religion I found that there was nothing to experience myself. I tried many many times to get some kind of confirmation of angels, demons, god himself and never once found anything that wasn't the doing of some person out there.

So, and this is very strange for me to admit, I maintain that science is the end-all, be-all of everything and more or less live by the facts and yet I accept that ghosts and aliens exist unconditionally because of my own experiences, however I absolutely REFUTE god every single time.

Something's wrong with me on that. I am not a man of faith AT ALL. Yet my belief in ghosts and aliens could arguably be called "faith." Such a paradox if I ever saw one.

And what do you have to say to people who insist that God exists due to similar personal experiences such as your own? You may have been looking for God and claimed not to have found Him, but what would you say to someone who was not intending to find God and yet did? The same applies to angels and demons. Heck, you're convinced that the phenomena you observed were "ghosts" and "aliens", but what if someone were to tell you that you were actually observing spiritual entities? Such as angels, demons, or even deities? I've certainly heard countless claims both ways. I can explain many of these things through natural phenomena such as sleep paralysis, but I can't explain them all. Personally, I always raise an eyebrow of skepticism whenever I hear of "oogie-boogie" claims such as these, but as scientists, we are supposed to be open minded.

This is a great UFO-story-swapping thread, but what exactly does it have to do with science?

Because we are dealing with phenomena that we don't understand, which is the entire point of science. The ancients may have considered fire to be some sort of spiritual magic because they didn't understand it. Now that science has helped us understand it we don't consider it such. If we can ever prove that consciousness can exist independent of the body, it would likely be considered paranormal until science understood it, at which point it would just be considered another part of nature. Now I'd rather not go off track and get into that discussion; I'm just using it as an example.

[windows_x_seven]

My turn.

About 1 or 2 years ago, I saw a black dot floating on the sky during daytime. I had a pair of binoculars in my room so I grabbed it and tried looking at the object. It was a black triangle, just hovering, then he suddenly went diagonal towards space.

And I didn't even play KSP when that happened.

I'm still skeptical about aliens in our solar system, but that event, and the discovery of water on Europa, I don't know. It could've been a man-made object, but I currently live in Brazil so high tech aircraft are quite unlikely here...

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Also, let's not turn this into a religion debate, please?

[Slam_Jones]

Here's my story (it was several years ago, so my memory is a little fuzzy):

I was aboard a boat off the coast of California, between San Deigo and LA. We were heading north from a race in Mexico, and since the race was over and we were just delivering the boat back home, there were only three of us aboard. I had a shift one night from about Midnight to about 4am or so, and I was the only one on deck at the time.

Most of the shift had gone normally... not much to see at night out there. Some occasional splashing and such from fish and waves, but nothing unusual.

At some point, I found myself looking up at the sky off the coast, and noticed some red lights cruising northward, same direction as us. At first, it seemed normal... Camp Pendelton (a Marine/Navy base) is nearby, and I've seen helicopters, planes, ships, etc all the time out there. I figured it was one of those.

Every once in a while, I'd notice that it would stop and appear to hover over a spot of water, then shine what looked like a really bright reddish light into the water for a few moments, and then it would turn it off and continue on it's path. I figured it was a helicopter performing some search and rescue drills. That is, until it stopped again and turned the light on. It sat there for a few moments, and without turning off the light, appeared to zoom off, southward, very very quickly. Like, the speed a jet would take off. From an apparent standstill.

I told my Dad about it (he's sailed in this area since he was a kid many many years ago) and he seemed to think it was likely an experimental aircraft from Pendelton. I don't know what I saw, but whatever it was, it sure wasn't concerned about us.

As much as I like to believe aliens have already visited us and are helping somewhat to progress our technology, I think that any race that advanced would know how to avoid being seen. I'm a firm believer that most UFOs are experimental aircraft, but I have no doubt that non-terrestrial craft have been spotted before.

Edit: Another note to make it a little weirder - I don't remember hearing any whoomph whoomph of helicopter blades or anything, though that sound should travel pretty far over (mostly flat) water. Maybe it was some sort of new Harrier-style VTOL jump-jet plane? Who knows.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Slam_Jones

[Robotengineer]

The Titan Theory:

--Snip--

We sent a probe to Titan, we have been watching Titan with Cassini. Wouldn't we have seen something?

[Nuke]

i saw a ufo when i was 5 and living in the california desert. it looked a lot like an f117 (which were still classified at the time).

Edited May 28, 2015 by Nuke

[Bar27262]

If there are aliens capable of easy interplanetary travel, reactionless drives, and near perfect stealth technology, Saturn being in opposition or not isn't going to make a difference to how easy it is for them to get to earth.

Additionally, Titan's surface is at -180 degrees celsius Its seas are liquid ethane, its soil is frozen butane and tholins. Anything capable of surviving on Titan would boil alive on earth. Anything capable of surviving on earth would freeze solid on Titan. Titan's atmosphere is also almost 100% nitrogen, with trace amounts of hydrocarbons. It is unlikely that anything could breathe it, given the chemical stability of molecular nitrogen.

You make good points, I wasn't saying for sure that it was so. I'm just saying it's something that could be considered.

For starters, let's call in the different UFO's that people have seen. People have seen the traditional original flying saucer and black triangle and various other saucer craft. Saucer shaped craft are still spotted today, along with the black triangle. This calls in to question; who is flying the saucer and who is flying the black triangle?

Perhaps if aliens were to exist on Titan that somehow exist given your points, they may not be as advanced as we think and they use a old traditional saucer while the Grays use a newer, more advanced craft (black triangle)?

It's not impossible that there is alien civilizations that have not mastered the flying saucer or rather designed the right one.

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We sent a probe to Titan, we have been watching Titan with Cassini. Wouldn't we have seen something?

Yeah, that's a good point too.

But the atmosphere is hazy and hides most of the surface so how can we know what's there? I mean, we've seen some of the lake but not a whole lot.