Kerbodyne Plus Development Thread

[Siphonophore]

1 hour ago, Bonus Eventus said:

Here's the last one for the day. 

Think, I'm getting closer...

 

 

OMG

IT'S PERFECT!!

P.S. You can include that 2m one-nozzle electrical engine, and for easier placements in clusters it can be radially attacheable. 

 

 

 

Edited March 9, 2016 by AJTheMighty
ADD THAT 2M ELECTRIC ENGINE AS WELL EVENTUS

[Bonus Eventus]

wanted to do some more experiments before I choose a direction. With this one I wanted to see how a smooth transition from a circular profile to a square one would work with the design. It looks a little too simple. One thing I'm trying not to do with this design is make it look too uniform. I want to make sure it looks like an engine that was meant for the vacuum of space. Adding that smooth shape works against me. But hey, that's why I do experiments first

[Bonus Eventus]

Although I really like this design, with the outer supports, I don't think it will work for the MPD, because I plan to have a similar structure to support the rows of magnets used for the confinement fields of the fusion engine.

[Siphonophore]

5 hours ago, Bonus Eventus said:

wanted to do some more experiments before I choose a direction. With this one I wanted to see how a smooth transition from a circular profile to a square one would work with the design. It looks a little too simple. One thing I'm trying not to do with this design is make it look too uniform. I want to make sure it looks like an engine that was meant for the vacuum of space. Adding that smooth shape works against me. But hey, that's why I do experiments first

Definitely go with this one

It seriously LOOKS like something humans can actually make IRL and it looks real pretty as well. WONDERFUL

59 minutes ago, Bonus Eventus said:

Although I really like this design, with the outer supports, I don't think it will work for the MPD, because I plan to have a similar structure to support the rows of magnets used for the confinement fields of the fusion engine.

That design could be for the 2m electric engine but it could have one nozzle, AND, like I mentioned earlier, it should be radially attachable

[Bonus Eventus]

This one might be a good mix of the 2

Thought I'd try an array 

[Siphonophore]

34 minutes ago, Bonus Eventus said:

This one might be a good mix of the 2

Thought I'd try an array 

IT'S BEAUTIFUL

EDIT: every time the S6 decoupler activates, the game crashes

Edited March 10, 2016 by AJTheMighty

[Steel Dragon]

God I love your mods !!!!

 

Yes Please May I have them in a Quad Pack

[Steel Dragon]

I would really love this as a 2m size engine with no cage I like the sphere tank on nozzle look to it

 

[Bonus Eventus]

hey @AJTheMighty I pushed a new release https://github.com/bonus-eventus/KerbodynePlusDev/releases/tag/V1.07

give that a try. Let me know if the crashes still persist

[Siphonophore]

@Bonus Eventus

AW NO IT STILL CRASHES

Try and find the error in the programming

[Bonus Eventus]

5 minutes ago, AJTheMighty said:

@Bonus Eventus

AW NO IT STILL CRASHES

Try and find the error in the programming

I tried to reproduce the error on my system but I'm on a Mac. Do me a favor, start the game again. When you've loaded the game and are at the space center, press alt f2. This will pull up the debug console. Scroll down and look for any orange text. Take a screenshot and post it here. Then proceed to activate the decoupler. If it crashes, find your log file (it's in the same folder your gamedata folder is in) and post the last 10 or so lines. That will help me tremendously. I checked the debug console on my end, and nothing weird showed up.

Edited March 10, 2016 by Bonus Eventus

[Siphonophore]

@Bonus Eventus

I tested it a couple of times with a "DEBUGGY THING" I made with the decoupler and a Behemoth engine, and amazingly it didn't crash

So, yay I guess???

[Bonus Eventus]

1 minute ago, AJTheMighty said:

@Bonus Eventus

I tested it a couple of times with a "DEBUGGY THING" I made with the decoupler and a Behemoth engine, and amazingly it didn't crash

So, yay I guess???

Well you know what to do if it happens again

On another note if anyone feels up to it, I set up a poll for the new MPD designs. Help me choose which one to go with! 

 

[Rushligh]

the last two images... dude, like, dude.
if you don't end up using them for your mod could i pretty pretty please have the model files to mess with making some engines? (credit to you obviously because i can't model for my life)

[Bonus Eventus]

13 hours ago, Rushligh said:

the last two images... dude, like, dude.
if you don't end up using them for your mod could i pretty pretty please have the model files to mess with making some engines? (credit to you obviously because i can't model for my life)

we'll see...

 

WIP Large RCS Quad Block

 

#1 Experiment with stubby camera-lens-like rcs nozzle

#2 A more traditional apollo style RCS nozzle (if I go with this option, I think I'll make the nozzles shiny metal instead)

EDIT: Decided I'd go with option 2, but update the looks a little bit. 

Edited March 10, 2016 by Bonus Eventus

[Siphonophore]

17 hours ago, Bonus Eventus said:

we'll see...

 

WIP Large RCS Quad Block

 

#1 Experiment with stubby camera-lens-like rcs nozzle

#2 A more traditional apollo style RCS nozzle (if I go with this option, I think I'll make the nozzles shiny metal instead)

EDIT: Decided I'd go with option 2, but update the looks a little bit. 

Looks awesome, but will the nozzles really shine like metal in-game? If so, then try and show an in-game demonstration

I think each of the nozzle's opening could be as wide as a whole Kerbal

Edited March 10, 2016 by AJTheMighty

[Bonus Eventus]

Did a little research into different engines for reaction control systems. 

 

 R-4D apollo program RCS thruster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-4D

• Hypergolic (ignites by way of chemical mixture. No ignition) liquid engine. 
• NTO / MMH propellant
• storable (non-cryogenic) propellant
• Propellant is stored in pressurized tanks. When the tank valve is loosened, both gases mix in a mixing chamber then quickly expand through the nozzle. Simple system. Highly reliable and tanks do not need to be fueled at launch.
• Low thrust

Resistojet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistojet_rocket

• Provides thrust by electrically heating a non reactive propellant
• Small footprint
• Low thrust

 

SuperDraco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperDraco

• high-thrust hypergolic engine
• NTO / MMH propellant
• storable (non-cryogenic) propellant
• 73 kn of thrust
• 3d printed
   

After doing this bit of research (admittedly, I should have done more before jumping into the modeling) I think it would make more sense to model the RCS engines off of the SuperDraco engines seeing as they're the only RCS engines I could find with a comparable amount of thrust required for the Behemoth Payloads. Just not sure how to translate the design into all the different configurations (x4, x3, x2)

EDIT: Updated the rcs quad block

Edited March 11, 2016 by Bonus Eventus

[Siphonophore]

22 hours ago, Bonus Eventus said:

EDIT: Updated the rcs quad block

@Bonus Eventus Looks great, but I thinks it could use an extra fifth engine in that ring in the middle

BUUUUT, did you choose a final model for the giant ion cluster? If so, you could show me a model of what the colors would look like so we'll get an idea what they'll look like in-game. And also add a Kerbal for scale

And lastly, why not add the second smaller one-nozzle one as an ion engine rather than an XEMT? It could be less expensive that the giant one but adds up to roughly the same price as the giant XEMT's price when clustered in a group of 8 or more 

[bazz]

A command pod come access ramp would be cool.

 

 

Edited March 12, 2016 by bazz

[Siphonophore]

@bazz Uhh I have no idea how that would work. Besides, how would you get to the main deck through just a predominantly empty cavity?

@Bonus Eventus how's mod progress going? Let me know if you are working on any major parts of the mod like the ion engine or any bug fixes or whatever

[bazz]

There are already hull sections that conform to the cavity a crew compartment variant could easily be created to link the main command pod to the bridge and can also be used to create flat floors. A fuel tank variant would be cool too. 

Edited March 13, 2016 by bazz

[Siphonophore]

@Bonus Eventus decided on the final design for the giant ion engine? Any progress on any more parts and the mod in general? If so, you could show us some pics of development or in-game testing?

[Bonus Eventus]

Upgraded the T404 truss sections. Now I need to give some love to the T202 trusses. The T404 trusses are for large storage (like assent vehicles) kind of like orbital shipyards. The T202 line of trusses have more of a structural focus with modular integrated enhancements, like batteries, antennae, and other devices to augment capabilities. I doubt anyone can guess what those orange structural parts are all about

[Siphonophore]

5 hours ago, Bonus Eventus said:

Upgraded the T404 truss sections. Now I need to give some love to the T202 trusses. The T404 trusses are for large storage (like assent vehicles) kind of like orbital shipyards. The T202 line of trusses have more of a structural focus with modular integrated enhancements, like batteries, antennae, and other devices to augment capabilities. I doubt anyone can guess what those orange structural parts are all about

WHOA NELLY THAT'S AWESOME! That definitely makes the T404 family look more realistic

Oh and is it weird that I know EXACTLY what those are for; keeping structural integrity high? And that there's gonna be more T202 parts; can I give some suggestions for some T202 parts; a battery bank, a fuel tank or maybe a compact rotating centrifuge with a counter-rotating wheel - the main ring would be as wide as a standard T404 module - but it would have no windows at all. 

Oh, almost forgot! What's that cap-shaped orange/black part? I have literally no idea what that is whatsoever

[Bonus Eventus]

53 minutes ago, AJTheMighty said:

WHOA NELLY THAT'S AWESOME! That definitely makes the T404 family look more realistic

Oh and is it weird that I know EXACTLY what those are for; keeping structural integrity high? And that there's gonna be more T202 parts; can I give some suggestions for some T202 parts; a battery bank, a fuel tank or maybe a compact rotating centrifuge with a counter-rotating wheel - the main ring would be as wide as a standard T404 module - but it would have no windows at all. 

Oh, almost forgot! What's that cap-shaped orange/black part? I have literally no idea what that is whatsoever

haha, guess again

if you guessed starship scale fuel tanks then you wouldn't be wrong

I'm currently working on this:

Edited March 16, 2016 by Bonus Eventus