Randazzo Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I'm not sure if I feel anger or pity towards this person. When he talks about the "supposed" explanation is the real kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Welp, time to break out shovels and pickaxes and start digging for black holes buried under these "mystery spots". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZetaX Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I stopped watching as he said "yeah, I have no idea what I just said" after he quoted Newton's law of gravity. He sounded almost proud to not understand something you supposedly learn in high school. If you seriously expect scientific value from such a person, I would also pity you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randazzo Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 I stopped watching as he said "yeah, I have no idea what I just said" after he quoted Newton's law of gravity. He sounded almost proud to not understand something you supposedly learn in high school. If you seriously expect scientific value from such a person, I would also pity you No, I personally do not, but his lack of knowledge is not in question. It is the fact that it appears to be willfully self-inflicted, as you might have gathered from the explanations I was referring to. In fact, it's quite the opposite of what you would expect from a rational individual.The channel is called "Beyond Science"... and it certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketfeline Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So the video is telling me that these areas are untouched by researchers. I would really want to bring a Geiger counter and a magnetometer to figure out what the hell the earth is doing. But at the very least it might just be photoshopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_NL Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 It's not photoshopped, it's REAL! A real visual illusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Spot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_hillWhere this YouTube fails is the point where the presenter explains it's all a visual illusion but then decides to ignore that and choose the less realistic failure of gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hcube Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) The worst thing here is that this bloke probably isn't stupid enough to believe that. He is just spreading BS around, and then some sheep start thinking that it's true....When he says "'i've no idea what i've just said" after using that very simple law of physics, it really hurts my brain. He makes it look like it's cool not to understand an equation that you learn in highschool. "omg folkz luk idk wat dat mean im retarded how cool am i ,hacked gravity""Beyond science" ? more like "behind science". Or "500 -years-retarded relatively to science"Edit : the fact that he is on one of the Pshopped pics shows that he knows that it is BS... he deserves the anger, not the pity... in short : kill it with fire Edited June 18, 2015 by Hcube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Well, if it makes money, someone will try to do it, even these kinds of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brethern Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 The worst thing here is that this bloke probably isn't stupid enough to believe that. He is just spreading BS around, and then some sheep start thinking that it's true....When he says "'i've no idea what i've just said" after using that very simple law of physics, it really hurts my brain. He makes it look like it's cool not to understand an equation that you learn in highschool. "omg folkz luk idk wat dat mean im retarded how cool am i ,hacked gravity""Beyond science" ? more like "behind science". Or "500 -years-retarded relatively to science"Edit : the fact that he is on one of the Pshopped pics shows that he knows that it is BS... he deserves the anger, not the pity... in short : kill it with fireYou should watch more of his videos before making a judgement, the point is to get people thinking, and humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hcube Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) You should watch more of his videos before making a judgement, the point is to get people thinking, and humor.Oh but my judgement is not about his channel but only this video...I don't think i will watch other videos from him. You do not get people thinking by spreading faslse data on the internet. And for the humor... well if this is funny to anyone, fine... EDIT: i l'checked out his channel and (!!!) my point stands still. It's BS from A to Z. "Nasa announces we will find aliens in 10 ro 20 years" or "nasa might have just discovered of way to travel faster than light" ... Edited June 19, 2015 by Hcube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 It's not photoshopped, it's REAL! A real visual illusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Spot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_hillWhere this YouTube fails is the point where the presenter explains it's all a visual illusion but then decides to ignore that and choose the less realistic failure of gravity.Yes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_room is even more weird.It work because the decoration give illusion of an rectangular room and our brain see it as rectangular as its common. This effect was use a lot showing hobbits in the lord of the ring and the hobbit movies. Nothing weird at all just an small field not many know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78stonewobble Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 My old apartment was a bit mystery spotish. ... The building had sunk quite a bit at one end and a relatively new apartment been built up inside to horizontal. Which meant at one end in the living room there were like 5 cm's from top of the window to the roof of the room and at the other end 20-30 cm's. Pretty much everyone who sat in the couch naturally slanted to the side from that. But to jump to antigravity? That's just stupid or as ts says intentionally ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreutzkevic Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) It's not photoshopped, it's REAL! A real visual illusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Spot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_hillWhere this YouTube fails is the point where the presenter explains it's all a visual illusion but then decides to ignore that and choose the less realistic failure of gravity.Well,Totally ignoring Occam's razor and going for the more sensational explanation to get more hits/clicks is plain deception. A lot of press is guilty of this, through simple ignorance or delibirate sensationalism. He literally says "I choose to believe.." in face of flying evidence.All survey equipment is fairly sensitive and has to be CALIBRATED properly for it to function correctly. I would like to see some more documentation of how the survey equipment was calibrated, how it failed and which equipment was used for that matter. I've known otherwise clever engineers order magnetic particle inspections on austenitic stainless steel. (which isn't magnetic)This kind of behavior is one of my pet peeves. It's the same when they are talking about CO2 and global warming and invariably show cooling towers chucking out water vapour. This looks way more dramatic. CO2 is an invisible gas, after all. Granted, they show stacks sometimes, but it is mostly cooling towers.Or when they're talking about nuclear power plants or any related topic (like irradiation and contamination). I worked at a NPP for a couple of years and most press announcements are just plain wrong. They don't care. It fills a space and is dramatic and thus generates views and revenue. Maybe the reporter cares, but the chief editor certainly doesn't.Cringeworthy.On a lighter note, this is how it should be done: poking fun while conveying the right message.http://revision3.com/anyhoo/5-mysterious-objects-on-mars/ Edited June 19, 2015 by kreutzkevic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Well,Totally ignoring Occam's razor and going for the more sensational explanation to get more hits/clicks is plain deception. A lot of press is guilty of this, through simple ignorance or delibirate sensationalism. He literally says "I choose to believe.." in face of flying evidence.All survey equipment is fairly sensitive and has to be CALIBRATED properly for it to function correctly. I would like to see some more documentation of how the survey equipment was calibrated, how it failed and which equipment was used for that matter. I've known otherwise clever engineers order magnetic particle inspections on austenitic stainless steel. (which isn't magnetic)This kind of behavior is one of my pet peeves. It's the same when they are talking about CO2 and global warming and invariably show cooling towers chucking out water vapour. This looks way more dramatic. CO2 is an invisible gas, after all. Granted, they show stacks sometimes, but it is mostly cooling towers.Or when they're talking about nuclear power plants or any related topic (like irradiation and contamination). I worked at a NPP for a couple of years and most press announcements are just plain wrong. They don't care. It fills a space and is dramatic and thus generates views and revenue. Maybe the reporter cares, but the chief editor certainly doesn't.Cringeworthy.On a lighter note, this is how it should be done: poking fun while conveying the right message.http://revision3.com/anyhoo/5-mysterious-objects-on-mars/An engineering school tend to do training surveys on the location of the trees in an nearby park. The joke was that the trees was moving around. And yes the pollution from cooling towers, yes pipes also give water damp but the cooling towers are more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Hobo Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Why isn't this just called "5 Interesting Optical Illusions"? What's with all the pseudoscience? It's all so confusing why they feel the need to attach all of that nonsense to their channel.I don't understand how these channels have so many subscribers. Spirit Science is another one. Absolute unfounded waffly nonsense, yet is somehow very popular. They also all seem to confuse ancient civilisations with magic people, and constantly go on about Mayans or the extremely broad term "Native Americans". That in particular just seems insulting, especially as there are hundreds of distinct Native American tribes with completely different cultures and ways of life. Are they all somehow magic? There are even quite a number of Native Americans left and millions of Mayans. Edited June 19, 2015 by Drunken Hobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Why isn't this just called "5 Interesting Optical Illusions"? What's with all the pseudoscience? It's all so confusing why they feel the need to attach all of that nonsense to their channel.I don't understand how these channels have so many subscribers. Spirit Science is another one. Absolute unfounded waffly nonsense, yet is somehow very popular. They also all seem to confuse ancient civilisations with magic people, and constantly go on about Mayans or the extremely broad term "Native Americans". That in particular just seems insulting, especially as there are hundreds of distinct Native American tribes with completely different cultures and ways of life. Are they all somehow magic? There are even quite a number of Native Americans left and millions of Mayans.Clickbait gets views. Views get money. Pseudoscience is popular with the mass, as it takes real science, take a blind leap of faith off the cliff of ignorance to turn into something more easily understood but no longer resemble the truth, so that people who sees it can claim they understand "science" with little effort required.I used to watch spirit science in the beginning. It has pretty cute animation and interesting information about the flower of life and interesting pattern and such. Then when it comes to ancient aliens and crystal healing I just watch it for entertainment, then I dropped it completely for much more educational channel like TED-ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstah Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yeah, I can't deny Ancient Aliens is entertaining as heck, the more atrocious their sciencey claims the more popcorn I get.My favourite gem from Tsoukalos himself: "Ancient chinese wrote of huge noisy creatures that flew and breathed fire, and called them 'Dragons'. Well, we know for sure dragons didn't exist, so they were obviously talking about alien rockets!"Yeah. Obviously.Seriously, tho, I agree with OP. It's not the fact people are stating dumb things to the masses, but the fact they are doing it on purpose. Anyone ever watched Zeitgeist? At one point, they claim the date for Christmas is around winter solstice, because on winter solstice the sun (metaphor for God's son, of Jesus) sets under the Souther Cross. As in, south instead of west.C'mon man, there's just no way someone wrote that believing in it, rather than to purposefully mislead. That's... disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalou Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) hey, i find it fun, maybe it's an illusionnist trick ( an inclined house?) and the guy don't seem dumb, he is presenting it like a story for childrens.are you taking it really at first degree?also it seems it has become a touristic attraction now , paid your ticket, take a photo, next! Edited June 19, 2015 by Skalou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_NL Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 hey, i find it fun, maybe it's an illusionnist trick ( an inclined house?) and the guy don't seem dumb, he is presenting it like a story for childrens.are you taking it really at first degree?also it seems it has become a touristic attraction now , paid your ticket, take a photo, next!That's EXACTLY what it is, an illusion. And as I already stated therein lies the problem. The presenter acknowledges this illusion but decides to ignore this in favour of failing gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brethern Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Oh but my judgement is not about his channel but only this video...I don't think i will watch other videos from him. You do not get people thinking by spreading faslse data on the internet. And for the humor... well if this is funny to anyone, fine... EDIT: i l'checked out his channel and (!!!) my point stands still. It's BS from A to Z. "Nasa announces we will find aliens in 10 ro 20 years" or "nasa might have just discovered of way to travel faster than light" ...And if no one challenges anything what are we then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallygator Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) The is/was a mystery spot up in northern Michigan. Funny place. Clearly it is only a physical construction which is intended to create an optical illusion. Cheap fun. EDIT: just watched it. Lol. Yes, St. Ignace.When I asked the owner why they built it she replied, "To put my kids through college." They make decent money. At no time did any of the guides make any claims against the laws of physics. The customers jumped to their own conclusions. It was funny to watch mass psychology in action. I bought a tee shirt and a mug. This was back in the 80s. They are probably still there. Edited June 20, 2015 by Wallygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSpace Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Just watched the video, and as far as I can tell there are 3 possible solutions:- They are all just faked or optical illusions- They are examples of new scientific phenomena which can't be meaningfully manipulated- Next stop, Saturn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randazzo Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 Just watched the video, and as far as I can tell there are 3 possible solutions:- They are all just faked or optical illusions- They are examples of new scientific phenomena which can't be meaningfully manipulated- Next stop, Saturn!All of them are optical illusions. The "mystery spot" business is manufactured intentionally. The gravity hills are just a result of the surrounding landscape, usually. Our brains translate the visual data incorrectly.The fact that he says "Most people will say these are just optical illusions", but then follows it with "But I choose to believe something else is causing all these phenomenons." is where he becomes intentionally misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hcube Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 And if no one challenges anything what are we then?It's not about challenging or not challenging anything; just that the video states that "NASA announced we will find aliens in 10 to 20 years" while NASA did not do such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuoDex Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Thread has been locked - please refrain from linking videos or other pages for the sole purpose of lambasting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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