GoldForest Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Just now, hraban said: Contares brakes no other mod if the prescribed conditions are met. It's simple, if you cant run RealPlume/Smokescreen you cant use Contares as standard installation. The other way is to delete all RealPlume Settings in Contares (in the next release that is one folder) and you has contares without effects. You're mod is excellent and I love what it adds, but what you're doing is going to draw a lot of potential downloaders away. Contares breaks mods for people who can't or don't want to run RP or SS. The alternative is breaking Contares itself. Is that really the message you want to send to people? Do what I say or don't use my mod. I would highly suggest you reconsider your position on stock plumes, or at least find someone who can give Contares the stock plumes people need to run the mod with other mods. I would hate to see this mod get hate just because of stock plumes vs. RP/SS. And why even remove stock plumes? RP/SS overrides the stock plumes anyway, so there is no need to remove them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, GoldForest said: You're mod is excellent and I love what it adds, but what you're doing is going to draw a lot of potential downloaders away. Contares breaks mods for people who can't or don't want to run RP or SS. The alternative is breaking Contares itself. Is that really the message you want to send to people? Do what I say or don't use my mod. I would highly suggest you reconsider your position on stock plumes, or at least find someone who can give Contares the stock plumes people need to run the mod with other mods. I would hate to see this mod get hate just because of stock plumes vs. RP/SS. And why even remove stock plumes? RP/SS overrides the stock plumes anyway, so there is no need to remove them. If you want stock-plumes, they are free to design and add this via patch to Contares. The previously existing stock-plumes are more or less taken over by copy/past from Tantares/LV and fit usually not the engines. Deleting the RP/SS settings does not break Contares. [ironic on] If they can live with stock-plumes, then even without plumes. Without, it is still better than to insult my aesthetic feel by stock-plumes [ironic off] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, hraban said: If you want stock-plumes, they are free to design and add this via patch to Contares. The previously existing stock-plumes are more or less taken over by copy/past from Tantares/LV and fit usually not the engines. Deleting the RP/SS settings does not break Contares. [ironic on] If they can live with stock-plumes, then even without plumes. Without, it is still better than to insult my aesthetic feel by stock-plumes [ironic off] It breaks contares visually. And I wasn't trying to insult you in anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 But RealPlumes is just a config. By default the stock plumes should still be there, so i really don't see the point of taking them out. I didn't even think that was possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, GoldForest said: It breaks contares visually. And I wasn't trying to insult you in anyway. I'm trying, with my terrible English to express something finer. I do not feel insulted. Installs the mod according to the specifications and all is well. If mods not compatible - of which there are more than enough - then one of the mods must give up. It is their decision what mod they decide to and it is in their hands whether the mods become a couple in. It is, from my hand, give no matching stock-plumes. Those who want to do the job is welcome and has to live with my terrible english. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooperMNG Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 55 minutes ago, hraban said: I'm trying, with my terrible English to express something finer. I do not feel insulted. Installs the mod according to the specifications and all is well. If mods not compatible - of which there are more than enough - then one of the mods must give up. It is their decision what mod they decide to and it is in their hands whether the mods become a couple in. It is, from my hand, give no matching stock-plumes. Those who want to do the job is welcome and has to live with my terrible english. Cheers german or austrian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, trooperMNG said: german or austrian? What does it matter? I am one of 7.39 billion people. Only 4.47% can call a native English speaker. 6.77% have English as a second language. 20.3% can some English (finger picks). 68.46% of the world population does not understand English. Edited June 16, 2016 by hraban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooperMNG Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 5 hours ago, hraban said: What does it matter? I am one of 7.39 billion people. Only 4.47% can call a native English speaker. 6.77% have English as a second language. 20.3% can some English (finger picks). 68.46% of the world population does not understand English. it was just out of curiosity. because I live in italy and the poor english level that I reached is derived from private lessons. schools teach terrible english here, and in too little hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Next new projects: Yenisei 5 replica as 'REKA' for kerbal stock. Spoiler Fictional spaceplane with small cargo bay. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxg2827 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 4 hours ago, hraban said: Fictional spaceplane with small cargo bay. Hide contents Looks great. Is this inspired by India's new mini shuttle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerbalFanatic1 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 What 3D modeling software do you use?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 2 hours ago, cxg2827 said: Looks great. Is this inspired by India's new mini shuttle? It's a pure fictional spaceplane. The technical requirements inevitably lead to similarities. As an old RC aircraft designer i like V-tails. Ogival wings are so far unsurpassed for high supersonic speeds and offer passable gliding properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidryder Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Hi Hraban, just a quick thanks for your hard work. You've expanded my space program nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 2 hours ago, KerbalFanatic1 said: What 3D modeling software do you use?? For KSP i use only Wings3D. 1 minute ago, Voidryder said: Hi Hraban, just a quick thanks for your hard work. You've expanded my space program nicely. Thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, cxg2827 said: Looks great. Is this inspired by India's new mini shuttle? This one is more like ISRO-Shuttle. Quick builded and kerbalized in size. length = 6.3 m (like original) wingspan = 3.6 m (like original) diameter or the body = 1.25m (more then original ~ 1.0m) for Contares it's better to rescale to 50% Edited June 19, 2016 by hraban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Hmm, I was a bit boring and so was the ISRO-Shuttle RLV-TD[K] born for KSP as 0.625 m version. A little fine-tuning to the textures and can be started with Unity and the configuration. Edited June 19, 2016 by hraban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooperMNG Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 17 hours ago, hraban said: Hmm, I was a bit boring and so was the ISRO-Shuttle RLV-TD[K] born for KSP as 0.625 m version. A little fine-tuning to the textures and can be started with Unity and the configuration. is the version with the more round nose (the first you posted) deprecated? Because I like that X37-like thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, trooperMNG said: is the version with the more round nose (the first you posted) deprecated? Because I like that X37-like thing! The fictional version i post first comes later. it's more work on this bigger shuttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 Project updates: The RLV-TD-K (ISRO) Glider works fine in KSP but the Texture need more tuning. Spoiler The first texture-steps for the fictional Spaceplane named GOGI are on the way. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Does the ISRO shuttle have a cargo bay? What's their respective diameters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) On 22.6.2016 at 7:32 PM, VenomousRequiem said: Does the ISRO shuttle have a cargo bay? What's their respective diameters? The ISRO RLV-TD-(Kerbal) has no cargo bay but integrated science instruments. body diameter = 0.625m length = 3.3m wingspan = 1.8m full loaded = 1.8t The GOGI Spaceplane with cargo bay has the following dimensions: body diameter = 1.25m length = 6.0m wingspan = 4.4m high = 1.57m weight without cargo = 3.5t + 1 or 2 small REX MONOP L Engines + 2 P-M22 Tantares Solar Panels = 3.6t + Cargo max. 0.8t Edited June 25, 2016 by hraban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldamundo Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Any chance you could offer the Kliper as a seperate download? Or maybe even a separate "spaceplane" pack with the new ones as well (they look awesome!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 hours ago, baldamundo said: Any chance you could offer the Kliper as a seperate download? Or maybe even a separate "spaceplane" pack with the new ones as well (they look awesome!) The claims of Contares users are too different and the effort to manage multiple download packages is disproportionate. Should more small and micro Space Planes will give thought its own package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 GOGI Spaceplane makes here first mission: Set a small satellite to an LKO on AP 120 PE 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) What do you think about the ESA IXV? Spoiler BTW, the GOGI Spaceplane is ready to launch. Possibly tomorrow may be provided a BETA. Edited June 25, 2016 by hraban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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