Dark matter 'Einstein-Bose condenates' and universe structure

[PB666]

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/?vp=1

Oh boy, this is theoretical physics stretched a bit too far. Their contention I gather is that dark matter behaves like super cooled helium, it psuedo coalesces in tendrals, the intersections of which stabilize gas and allow the formation of spheroid galaxies. the article is rather weak on details or facts.

[mpc755]

The notion that dark matter is a clump of stuff that travels with the matter is incorrect.

The mass which fills the space unoccupied by particles of matter as a Bose-Einstein condensate which the particles of matter move through and displace is more correct than the current notion of dark matter as a clump of stuff traveling with the matter.

'Dark matter' is now understood to fill what would otherwise be considered to be empty space.

'Cosmologists at Penn Weigh Cosmic Filaments and Voids'

http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/cosmologists-penn-weigh-cosmic-filaments-and-voids

"Dark matter ... permeate all the way to the center of the voids."

'No Empty Space in the Universe --Dark Matter Discovered to Fill Intergalactic Space'

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/02/no-empty-space-in-the-universe-dark-matter-discovered-to-fill-intergalactic-space-.html

"A long standing mystery on where the missing dark matter is has been solved by the research. There is no empty space in the universe. The intergalactic space is filled with dark matter."

I use the term 'dark mass' to describe the mass which fills 'empty' space.

Particles of matter move through and displace the dark mass, including 'particles' as large as galaxies and galaxy clusters.

What physics mistakes for the density of the dark matter is actually the state of displacement of the dark mass.

'The Milky Way's dark matter halo appears to be lopsided'

http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3802

"the emerging picture of the dark matter halo of the Milky Way is dominantly lopsided in nature."

The Milky Way's halo is not a clump of dark matter traveling along with the Milky Way. The Milky Way's halo is lopsided due to the matter in the Milky Way moving through and displacing the dark mass, analogous to a submarine moving through and displacing the water.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the dark mass.

The Milky Way moves through and curves spacetime.

The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime.

The state of displacement of the dark mass is curved spacetime.

The state of displacement of the dark mass is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated wave in the dark mass.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the dark mass passes through both.

Q. Why is the particle always detected traveling through a single slit in a double slit experiment?

A. The particle always travels through a single slit. It is the associated wave in the dark mass which passes through both.

The wave of wave-particle duality is a wave in the dark mass.

What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment, the dark mass.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality, both are waves in the dark mass.

Dark mass displaced by matter relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.

Edited October 12, 2015 by mpc755

[Majorjim!]

The notion that dark matter is a clump of stuff that travels with the matter is incorrect.

The mass which fills the space unoccupied by particles of matter as a Bose-Einstein condensate which the particles of matter move through and displace is more correct than the current notion of dark matter as a clump of stuff traveling with the matter.

'Dark matter' is now understood to fill what would otherwise be considered to be empty space.

'Cosmologists at Penn Weigh Cosmic Filaments and Voids'

http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/cosmologists-penn-weigh-cosmic-filaments-and-voids

"Dark matter ... permeate all the way to the center of the voids."

'No Empty Space in the Universe --Dark Matter Discovered to Fill Intergalactic Space'

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/02/no-empty-space-in-the-universe-dark-matter-discovered-to-fill-intergalactic-space-.html

"A long standing mystery on where the missing dark matter is has been solved by the research. There is no empty space in the universe. The intergalactic space is filled with dark matter."

I use the term 'dark mass' to describe the mass which fills 'empty' space.

Particles of matter move through and displace the dark mass, including 'particles' as large as galaxies and galaxy clusters.

What physics mistakes for the density of the dark matter is actually the state of displacement of the dark mass.

'The Milky Way's dark matter halo appears to be lopsided'

http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3802

"the emerging picture of the dark matter halo of the Milky Way is dominantly lopsided in nature."

The Milky Way's halo is not a clump of dark matter traveling along with the Milky Way. The Milky Way's halo is lopsided due to the matter in the Milky Way moving through and displacing the dark mass, analogous to a submarine moving through and displacing the water.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the dark mass.

The Milky Way moves through and curves spacetime.

The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime.

The state of displacement of the dark mass is curved spacetime.

The state of displacement of the dark mass is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated wave in the dark mass.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the dark mass passes through both.

Q. Why is the particle always detected traveling through a single slit in a double slit experiment?

A. The particle always travels through a single slit. It is the associated wave in the dark mass which passes through both.

The wave of wave-particle duality is a wave in the dark mass.

What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment, the dark mass.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality, both are waves in the dark mass.

Dark mass displaced by matter relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.

All that stuff about dark matter and the double slit experiment sounds very dubious to me. Why would a particle when viewed not create a 'ripple' in this 'dark mass' you mention?

[mpc755]

All that stuff about dark matter and the double slit experiment sounds very dubious to me. Why would a particle when viewed not create a 'ripple' in this 'dark mass' you mention?

Think of a boat double slit experiment. You place a bunch of pilings at the exits to the slits in order to detect the boat. The boat gets knocked around by the pilings and is no longer in sync with its bow wave. It will take time to regain its 'cohesion' with its bow wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the dark mass passes through both. As the wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave guiding the particle. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit destroys the cohesion between the particle and its associated wave in the dark mass, the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling and does not form an interference pattern.

When you detect the particle the associated wave continues to exist. However, the particle is no longer in sync with its wave. If you detect the particle far enough in front of the double slit experiment and the particle is given time to regain its cohesion with its associated wave prior to the experiment then the particle will still form an interference pattern if it is not detected exiting a slit.

When you detect the particle strongly and stop the particle the wave continues to exist and adds to the chaotic nature of the dark mass.

NON-LINEAR WAVE MECHANICS A CAUSAL INTERPRETATION by LOUIS DE BROGLIE

“Since 1954, when this passage was written, I have come to support wholeheartedly an hypothesis proposed by Bohm and Vigier. According to this hypothesis, the random perturbations to which the particle would be constantly subjected, and which would have the probability of presence in terms of [the wave-function wave], arise from the interaction of the particle with a “subquantic medium†which escapes our observation and is entirely chaotic, and which is everywhere present in what we call “empty spaceâ€Â.â€Â

The “subquantic medium†is the dark mass.

`Fluid mechanics suggests alternative to quantum orthodoxy'

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/fluid-systems-quantum-mechanics-0912

"The fluidic pilot-wave system is also chaotic. It's impossible to measure a bouncing droplet's position accurately enough to predict its trajectory very far into the future. But in a recent series of papers, Bush, MIT professor of applied mathematics Ruben Rosales, and graduate students Anand Oza and Dan Harris applied their pilot-wave theory to show how chaotic pilot-wave dynamics leads to the quantumlike statistics observed in their experiments."

A "fluidic pilot-wave system" is the dark mass.

`When Fluid Dynamics Mimic Quantum Mechanics'

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130729111934.htm

"If you have a system that is deterministic and is what we call in the business `chaotic,' or sensitive to initial conditions, sensitive to perturbations, then it can behave probabilistically," Milewski continues. "Experiments like this weren't available to the giants of quantum mechanics. They also didn't know anything about chaos. Suppose these guys -- who were puzzled by why the world behaves in this strange probabilistic way -- actually had access to experiments like this and had the knowledge of chaos, would they have come up with an equivalent, deterministic theory of quantum mechanics, which is not the current one? That's what I find exciting from the quantum perspective."

What waves in a double slit experiment is the dark mass.

I recommend watching all of the following videos. The part having to do with the double slit experiment is at the 2:43 mark of the first video.

Edited October 12, 2015 by mpc755

[SargeRho]

Also I think the link is wrong. It links to an image of a Quasar.

Edited October 13, 2015 by Specialist290
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[PB666]

Let me just try to get keep this thread from getting killed by a moderator before we discuss the problems.

1. Einstein-Bose condensates need to be in proximity to each other to actually mean anything?

2. Why would we expect the condensate to form threads?

3. How confident are we that dark matter is found in threads connecting galaxies. More specifically are the data that supports DM between galaxies as being specifically requiring threads or strands. Could this not be a scientific myth created by someones favored hypothesis.

[mpc755]

Let me just try to get keep this thread from getting killed by a moderator before we discuss the problems.

1. Einstein-Bose condensates need to be in proximity to each other to actually mean anything?

2. Why would we expect the condensate to form threads?

3. How confident are we that dark matter is found in threads connecting galaxies. More specifically are the data that supports DM between galaxies as being specifically requiring threads or strands. Could this not be a scientific myth created by someones favored hypothesis.

2. What you refer to as threads is actually the state of displacement of the dark mass. It's not a thread in 'empty' space. It's where the dark mass is displaced by the galaxies moving through and displacing it. Think of a parade of submarines moving closely together and displacing the water. The 'thread' is the state of displacement of the water.

[AmpsterMan]

Thread reopened.

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Edited October 13, 2015 by AmpsterMan