WW2 Warships 0.5.1 - Is there actually something happening? Stay tuned!

[SaturnianBlue]

I'm working on the HMS Hood, and while the ship floats well, it might be floating too well... It floats rather high in the water, especially in the back, and i've tried many solutions such as strapping 20 building foundations and even more water tanks (not at the same time), but it still can't fight against the floatiness of the ship completely, despite reaching 100K tons+.

 

[Azimech]

I'm happy to inform all of you WW2 Warships works right out of the box in KSP 1.1, build 1196. The only bug is the ship turbine sound missing, and I tracked it back to being a stock bug.

[Gman_builder]

I think this is a awesome mod! But, most people that own KSP are just casual players and I think this mod overcomplicated considering the majority community of people who are just looking to have fun with boats, not engineer a warship from scratch.

[Veskenapper]

1 hour ago, Gman_builder said:

I think this is a awesome mod! But, most people that own KSP are just casual players and I think this mod overcomplicated considering the majority community of people who are just looking to have fun with boats, not engineer a warship from scratch.

I don't know about that – quite a few of the people that own KSP are more than happy to engineer rockets, airplanes and helicopters from scratch

 

Really happy to see this mod developing! Though I ended up using Laythe's large boat parts for the video I was piecing together earlier, that does not give anything near as much flexibility as this one does. What I do miss the most right now though, apart from the plate sizes I mentioned earlier, is actually just more detail on what parts are used for what purposes, and why

[Cragrat]

Great mod! Just about got my head round how it works and have been having naval battles against BD's AI for the last couple of hours. However, KSP just updated to 1.1.1 and now getting major kraken attacks every time I load in a vessel. Please help! I was having so much fun with this mod!

[Gman_builder]

On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 4:34 AM, Veskenapper said:

I don't know about that – quite a few of the people that own KSP are more than happy to engineer rockets, airplanes and helicopters from scratch

 

Really happy to see this mod developing! Though I ended up using Laythe's large boat parts for the video I was piecing together earlier, that does not give anything near as much flexibility as this one does. What I do miss the most right now though, apart from the plate sizes I mentioned earlier, is actually just more detail on what parts are used for what purposes, and why

Bro, I love ships and I personally built turboshaft aircraft myself(check my topic) but it is just a lot to learn especially when a lot of the parts look the same.

[TheRocketScientist3229]

Wow, I have been looking forever for a mod like this! Now someone make me an iceberg mod and we got the Titanic up in here!

[Gojira]

Is there a way to fix hull pieces being 90 degrees off?

 

Edit: Solved. Had this and Real Ships installed at the same time.

Edited May 1, 2016 by Gojira

[Andrewwang66]

Hey, um I don't know if this has been answered yet but right now I'm using KSP 1.1 with the latest Joint Reinforcement mod, Vessel Mover, Hyper Edit, BD Armory and some 20+ other mods (none of which should be affecting the physics as far as I know) and I got a little bit of a problem. Every time I load in two ships close to each other the one that I had left in place earlier always "explodes" (it throws parts everywhere, I think it's a kraken attack). Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know how to solve this?

Edit: It looks like this happens mostly with large ships (around 300 meters)

Edited May 1, 2016 by Andrewwang66

[GiantTank]

READ THIS IS GREAT NEWS (Putting it in Ship Threads)

So you know the jumping ship bug which would make your ship go orbital velocity when you loaded it? Turns out, theres a fix from something completely unrelated.

 

I was messing around, and it turns out that FERRAM AEROSPACE (FAR) fixes the jumping ship bug. I have no idea why, but it fixes it. So play on KerbaSailors!

[Azimech]

8 hours ago, GiantTank said:

READ THIS IS GREAT NEWS (Putting it in Ship Threads)

So you know the jumping ship bug which would make your ship go orbital velocity when you loaded it? Turns out, theres a fix from something completely unrelated.

 

I was messing around, and it turns out that FERRAM AEROSPACE (FAR) fixes the jumping ship bug. I have no idea why, but it fixes it. So play on KerbaSailors!

This is fantastic news! Thank you!

[Gojira]

I don't know if this is a problem with this mod or NAS, but with this installed, the guns provided by NAS completely fail to do anything to the armor. Any suggestions?

Edit: It was Kerbal Krash System.

Edited May 12, 2016 by Gojira

[Linkdeous]

NICE, i was waiting to the 1.1 update for so long
Did you put the part you wanted to add last time ? You know, the realistics one, not just the boiler + plates + Engine ?

Also, i wanted to ask you, does the mod is compatible with Tweakscale ? that would be very very more easy to do good looking ships, but no problems if not

Edited May 31, 2016 by Linkdeous
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[Azimech]

12 hours ago, Linkdeous said:

NICE, i was waiting to the 1.1 update for so long
Did you put the part you wanted to add last time ? You know, the realistics one, not just the boiler + plates + Engine ?

Also, i wanted to ask you, does the mod is compatible with Tweakscale ? that would be very very more easy to do good looking ships, but no problems if not

Ooof ... got so many big mods nowadays ... I'm still thinking about whether I should continue WW2W alongside Real Ships or just focus everything on RS.

I'm not planning to support Tweakscale because of all the custom parameters & modules and I don't believe Tweakscale can get them right. I've seen some weird effects with other parts, including stock, in the past.

[Linkdeous]

On 1/6/2016 at 1:46 AM, Azimech said:

Ooof ... got so many big mods nowadays ... I'm still thinking about whether I should continue WW2W alongside Real Ships or just focus everything on RS.

I'm not planning to support Tweakscale because of all the custom parameters & modules and I don't believe Tweakscale can get them right. I've seen some weird effects with other parts, including stock, in the past.

 

No problems, no real need to add the TweakScale Support, it's just sometimes that would have been really usefull, like to create even more little bow, to make ship look really nice . But no problems, and also, do what you want, if you want to focus on a mod, no problems, just DO IT

[Kerbal_ZAZ]

Need help. In WW2 mod textures are not gray (except funnels, bridges and cannon hardpoints). And funnels don't smoke when the boiler is on. Mod vesion 0.5, KSP ver-sion 1.1.3. Installed BDArmory, NAS, Infernal Rob., KJR, Engineer Redux, KAS, KIS.

[Azimech]

47 minutes ago, Kerbal_ZAZ said:

Need help. In WW2 mod textures are not gray (except funnels, bridges and cannon hardpoints). And funnels don't smoke when the boiler is on. Mod vesion 0.5, KSP ver-sion 1.1.3. Installed BDArmory, NAS, Infernal Rob., KJR, Engineer Redux, KAS, KIS.

Unfortunately BDArmory hasn't been updated for 1.1.2 or later and the creator is unsure he'll have time to update his mods in the near future. NAS depends heavily on BDA so might have compatibility problems as well. I'm not sure what's happening with KerbPaint development at the moment, you should check the thread. The funnels don't produce smoke themselves, only the alternative boilers do.

[Guest]

@Azimech I think you should update the tutorial

Edit: Also, what is happening to the mod?

Edited August 1, 2016 by Murican_Jeb

[Vonnmillard]

On 16 November 2015 at 4:56 AM, Azimech said:

WW2 Warships

 

 

Can be used for building modern ships as well.

WW2W now has a 100% compatible sister mod: Big Ships! It let's you create commercial vessels and docks in real size and mass.
Want to recreate the Titanic or Seawise Giant? Then this is for you!

 

 

Ships that can really sink instead of just fall apart and stay afloat! Very versatile mod with a lot of new parts and one custom texture.

When the hull gets damaged, a compartment will simulate a flooding. If too many compartments flood, the ship will sink.

 

 

Showcase: DKM Prinz Eugen heavy cruiser replica made by SaturnianBlue

 

Topic:

 

Early test carrier. 360 meter long.

 

 

 

 

Great for naval battles!

Features:

Boiler in two sizes, run on heavy fuel oil, create steam.

Electrical generator in two sizes, run on steam.

Ship turbine, three sizes, main propulsion. run on steam.

Bow thruster, currently one size, runs on steam.

Keel. The backbone of every ship. Six sizes.

Hull plating A, This belongs directly attached to the keel. Contains fuel tanks. Multiple sizes.

Hull plating B, the vertical part of the hull. This provides the buoyancy of your outer hull. Attach this to Hull Plating A. Multiple sizes.

Structural plating, for internal and super structure. Numerous sizes. Most of the larger ones have a buoyancy rating for adjusting ship behaviour.

Deck plating. Relatively soft and light but still many times stronger than stock steel plates. Numerous sizes.

Heavy ship strut.

Funnels in three sizes.

Rudders in two sizes.

Energy management will be key, there is a limited amount of power, and the boiler needs to heat up (takes minutes) before giving enough of it, depending on demand.

Old style boilers have a fixed fuel consumption when running at 100%! If you're running at a thrust & speed setting lower than power requirement for a long time, it's best to switch off 1 or more boilers! Also, they don't produce smoke nor sound.

New boilers can be throttled, produce smoke and sound and have a much nicer fuel consumption.

Guns will not be included, but I'm thinking of including a missile made out of stock parts, with a super heated tip.

 

The principle:

Under the waterline are indestructible keel parts and they generate a resource: water.

Also under the waterline are destructible hull parts and they convert water into intake air and dump the excess.

Destroy the parts and water will no longer be drained, and the lower hull part will become heavier.

Also very effective for future submarine buoyancy control and battles.

Also just added on the roadmap: simulation of fire. Don't control it and it will ultimately consume the entire ship. All thanks to the new ModuleConverter code.

 

This mod is built to use BDArmory and Naval Artillery System (NAS). Forget about using stock weapons on these, you'll only scratch the paint.

Required mod:

Kerbal Joint Reinforcement .  Without this you would need a lot of struts, keep the wobble and get a lot of kraken attacks.

Suggested mods:

Vesselmover for transporting ships to the water. Is more flexible than Hyperedit for moving and you can set up a fleet easily.

Hyperedit for teleporting ships to the water but also for changing resources on the fly, nice for testing buoyancy. Beware! It's best to temporarily hack gravity when teleporting. These ships are heavier than the biggest rocket and the splashdown can have nasty side effects.

Hangar extender. Unless you fancy swinging 100+ meter ships back and forth with the editor offset gadget.

No Offset Limits Helps with reducing part count, one of the best editor enhancements ever!

Kerbpaint If you want some colour on your ships instead of the dull grey, get this.

Physical Time Ratio Viewer Let's you adjust physics delta-t between 0.02 and 0.20. In other words, smooth and slow gameplay or faster gameplay but low fps. If you get a kraken attack after unpacking your ship, set control to 0.02.

Here's a building tutorial!

I always like to see the creations of others, feel free to post them. I'm also open to suggestions.

 

FAQ:
Q: I leave my ship in the water and go out of physics range. When I return my ship either explodes, get's launched into the air or just disappears. What's wrong?
A: There is a bug in stock 1.0.5. It has already been patched and will be included in the 1.1 release of KSP.

Q: KerbPaint doesn't work (correctly).
A: Read the KerbPaint topic for tips and tricks. Summary: the package has an old version of ModuleManager in the KerbPaint\Plugins folder. Delete that one and put the most recent version in GameData.

Q: I have strange problems with your mod. Double parts listing or missing parts, strange textures and models.
A: Always make sure you download the latest version from Kerbal Stuff, and delete any old versions of the mod. It has two folders: WW2Warships and Shared. They reside in Gamedata\77Industries.

Q: My ships always sink.
A: Did you follow the tutorial? Use Hull Plating A attached to the keel, Use Hull Plating B attached to A and assign an action group to the FLOAT IT function. When physics start you'll see the "water" resource bar filling. Press the action group until it starts to decrease. If water is at 0 and it still sinks, add structural plating with Buoyancy = >0 preferably flat, left and right of the keel until it does.

Q: After physics kick in, I get a Kraken attack!
A: This often happens the first time you try it. Choose refly, it usually works better then. If not there are a number of things you can do. First of all you can add a few ship struts, they're super strong and you only need a few at strategic spots. If possible, use diagonal placement, best at angles close to 45 deg. See the tutorial for more info. Second thing you can do is install Physical Time Ratio Viewer and set it to 0.02. And remember to use the 77I launch clamps only attached to the keel.

Q: My ship is flimsy and bends in all direction.
A: Did you install Kerbal Joint Reinforcement?

Q: I used hull plating type A & B and set up action groups, but my ship fills with water anyway.
A: It's most likely you've forgotten to add a Hull type B to the action groups, this happens often, even to me. A bug in KSP has the effect that if you add parts mirrored, add function to action groups and then remove and re-add them, you need to go back to action groups, remove those two from the list and re-add them.
It can also happen when you think you attach a B to an A, but miss and attach it to the next.

 

 

I always like to see the creations of others, feel free to post them. I'm also open to suggestions.

Newest version of WW2 Warships:

Download

 

Suggestion:A plugin that make the ship be launched from the sea and not from the runway like Infinitedice's boat parts.

[Azimech]

7 hours ago, Murican_Jeb said:

@Azimech I think you should update the tutorial

Edit: Also, what is happening to the mod?

I'm a little bit disappointed that heavy ships have become a problem with the introduction of 1.1.x. I'm waiting for Squad to solve the bugs. A new tutorial might eventually arrive.

 

3 hours ago, Vonnmillard said:

Suggestion:A plugin that make the ship be launched from the sea and not from the runway like Infinitedice's boat parts.

If I can find one that's compatible with 1.1.3, I might request permission to include it in a future version. Tip: don't quote the OP, it makes your post very long ;-)

[Guest]

Knock knock anybody here?

[Guest]

@Azimech Does this work in KSP 1.1.3?

Edit: It does and I made a ship that barely floats but it still works

Edited August 9, 2016 by Murican_Jeb

[Wildcat111]

@Azimech who's built that carrier? If it was you, I want the craft file.

[Wildcat111]

@Azimech how do you start a fire?

[Guest]

On 8/11/2016 at 9:12 AM, Wildcat111 said:

@Azimech who's built that carrier? If it was you, I want the craft file.

That was the old carrier made in the KSP 1.0.5. version of this mod.

On 8/11/2016 at 10:13 AM, Wildcat111 said:

@Azimech how do you start a fire?

Get Destruction Effects here.