EVA from surface to orbit on Mun????

[RA3236]

Hello,

There are gonna be a whole lot of "no"s here but I practically did what Scott Manley did with a spare engine at one point (I can't find that video)(Did that happen?): I sent Bill from the surface of the Mun in EVA to orbit.

I ended up doing so since my lander was destroyed, so Bill decided to grab as much propellant as possible, walked up the edge of the crater rim, and fired the pack due east as much as possible, whenever the AP went too far ahead I stopped and waited. Starting height: 5435m ending orbit 8.5x10.7 km.

Has anyone done this before as well? I'll take Jeb and Bob up with pics.

[Gaarst]

Due to this being theoretically impossible, I'd really like to see screenshots of that. So that I can know if this can actually be done before crashing all my kerbals trying...

[Guest]

I don't think Kerbal suits carry enough delta-V to make orbit, but if you can rendezvous with a can somewhere on the way you should be golden.

E: Apparently they do carry enough delta-V, 600m/s, but the margins are quite thin for Mun orbit.

Edited February 2, 2016 by regex

[RA3236]

15 minutes ago, regex said:

I don't think Kerbal suits carry enough delta-V to make orbit, but if you can rendezvous with a can somewhere on the way you should be golden.

E: Apparently they do carry enough delta-V, 600m/s, but the margins are quite thin for Mun orbit.

I must have been lucky. I'll upload a screenshot of Bill in orbit but it could take a while.

EDIT: @Gaarst try starting at about 5kms up (like I did).

EDIT 2: Anyone up for a challenge for this?

Edited February 2, 2016 by RA3236

[RA3236]

Okay... Didn't save so I'll do it again and post screenshots!

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, RA3236 said:

I must have been lucky. I'll upload a screenshot of Bill in orbit but it could take a while.

No, you weren't lucky, you made it within the margins.

[RA3236]

5 minutes ago, regex said:

No, you weren't lucky, you made it within the margins.

Well, I got my second time right, album coming soon!

Just now, RA3236 said:

Well, I got my second time right, album coming soon!

If this belongs in Mission Reports tell me.

[Gaarst]

50 minutes ago, regex said:

E: Apparently they do carry enough delta-V, 600m/s, but the margins are quite thin for Mun orbit.

Oh, sorry then, for some reason I thought they only packed 300 m/s of dV.

Then, making Mun orbit with a Kerbal is very possible.

[RA3236]

Okay, album: (I quick loaded a couple of times in there to get the result)

 

Edited February 2, 2016 by RA3236

[zarakon]

Well, now you need to do the reverse and make an EVA LANDING from orbit!

[FancyMouse]

Delta-V is enough - see my old number crunching.

[RA3236]

10 hours ago, zarakon said:

Well, now you need to do the reverse and make an EVA LANDING from orbit!

After my KSC team completes their investigation on why Bob and the rescue craft crashed into the Mun  

EDIT: Challenge going up for this  

Edited February 3, 2016 by RA3236

[Nich]

In 1.0.4 there was a challenge to land an eva kerbal at a craft parked on the Mun then refill and EVA back to the orbiting craft

[Dafni]

I thought that's how we always do it....? I mean, who needs a LEM when you have EVA suits packing 600m/s??

Just kidding, of course, I did it a few times on Minmus back in the days. Its fun, especially landing like that.

[cubinator]

17 hours ago, Dafni said:

I thought that's how we always do it....? I mean, who needs a LEM when you have EVA suits packing 600m/s??

Just kidding, of course, I did it a few times on Minmus back in the days. Its fun, especially landing like that.

It was more fun with rendezvous and docking with no navball back before 1.0.5. I've done it on Gilly and Minmus, but I don't think I've done it on Bop or Pol. 

[BloodDusk]

On 2/2/2016 at 7:20 PM, zarakon said:

Well, now you need to do the reverse and make an EVA LANDING from orbit!

As long as your reentry speed is not high and you land on your feet, you can free fall from any altitude in stock game.

[AbacusWizard]

Starting from high-altitude ground helps quite a bit.

You can also "cheat in" a few extra m/s of ∆v by taking a running leap off an east-facing cliff as you turn on your jetpack.

 

In related news, Scott Manley once took an intrepid kerbalnaut from the surface of Gilly to the surface of Kerbin with nothing more than jetpack fuel and a modded-in EVA parachute (before reentry heat damage was added, of course).

[JoeNapalm]

 

1 hour ago, AbacusWizard said:

In related news, Scott Manley once took an intrepid kerbalnaut from the surface of Gilly to the surface of Kerbin with nothing more than jetpack fuel and a modded-in EVA parachute (before reentry heat damage was added, of course).

And here I was all pleased with myself for using the jetpack to go from Minimus back to the surface of Kerbin.

Though that guy didn't have a parachute.

 

-Jn-

[AbacusWizard]

Behold!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDLBTvpzf_s

[Johnny Wishbone]

5 hours ago, AbacusWizard said:

Behold!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDLBTvpzf_s

I love it when people dig up old Youtube links that show all the cool stuff you used to be able to do in this game...

[Evanitis]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Wishbone said:

I love it when people dig up old Youtube links that show all the cool stuff you used to be able to do in this game...

I'm pretty sure you could still do that if you turned down re-entry heating. And it would take a lot of trial and error to actually prove that there is no PE for a Kerbal returning from Gilly where he gets captured but still survives with the default setup.

[JoeNapalm]

 

Will a Kerbal burn up on re-entry now, even if you turn their helmet prograde?!

The horror!

I know I've had Val survive an EVA water landing post-1.0...but if I recall, she bailed after it broke up while aerobraking.

Of my three survived EVA re-entries, I think that was the only one post-release.

With KAS/KIS, could a Kerbal hold onto a heat shield and survive? Hmmm...

-Jn-

Edited February 5, 2016 by JoeNapalm

[Evanitis]

2 minutes ago, JoeNapalm said:

Will a Kerbal burn up on re-entry now, even if you turn their helmet prograde?!

They can totally survive entry from LKO, or -slow- aerobraking from the Mun. I wanna figure out the exact speed that they can withstand when doing an aerocapture (with the ideal PE) for a while. Though I secretly hoping someone else will do it, as I always find some better occupation when playing.

[JoeNapalm]

5 minutes ago, Evanitis said:

They can totally survive entry from LKO, or -slow- aerobraking from the Mun. I wanna figure out the exact speed that they can withstand when doing an aerocapture (with the ideal PE) for a while. Though I secretly hoping someone else will do it, as I always find some better occupation when playing.

I'm sure I'll test it, at some point...

...none of mine have been what you'd called a "scheduled" test, so far.

-Jn-