How to get to the Mun and back Version 1.0.5

[Trib601]

Ok so I've been playing this for 45 hours and no matter what I do I CAN NOT get to the Mun...... I need severe help I'm going bat excrements insane from this.....

[Superfluous J]

There are roughly 800,000 steps to getting to Mun and back, from starting the game to landing on Kerbin. Without a bit more specifics on your problem I can't really help you.

Are you in orbit? Can you get there but run out of fuel? Do you crash into the surface, or fly by it, or always end up on a crazy polar orbit, or don't know the angle, or can't get your engines started, or wobble on liftoff, or have staging issues, or.... ?

[Trib601]

None of the above, any rocket I build regardless of the tutorials and videos all fail at the 2nd stage of the atmosphere and just careen out of control..........

[Superfluous J]

57 minutes ago, Trib601 said:

None of the above, any rocket I build regardless of the tutorials and videos all fail at the 2nd stage of the atmosphere and just careen out of control..........

Make sure you're watching tutorials from after version 1.0 came out. Any older tutorials will lead you seriously astray.

Look through threads here where people are taking off an having troubles, there are a LOT of them and they have great info in them. In general though you want a top-heavy rocket until you're out of the atmosphere. What is probably happening is you're ditching the lower stage, which was (relatively) low on mass compared to that second stage that was totally full of fuel and high enough on the rocket to still be considered "forward." Now you've got this relatively light payload on top of a heavier 2nd stage which is now at the bottom, and that cases the rocket to flip over.

Try throwing a dart backward some day, it'll do the same thing.

To fix this, you need to keep mass up front somehow. This problem and its solution is one of the key tenets of rocket design. It was also totally, completely ignoreable in versions of KSP prior to 1.0.

[Trib601]

... not ditching any stages ..... first stage of atmosphere learn to read..... as soon as the second stage of atmosphere hits it does its own thing.      

[Superfluous J]

29 minutes ago, Trib601 said:

learn to read

You just earned yourself a "not helping."

Enjoy the game.

[GDJ]

1 hour ago, Trib601 said:

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You need to chill out. 5thHorseman was trying to help you.

Like he said, Enjoy the game.

[Red Iron Crown]

Moved to Gameplay Questions as this isn't a tutorial.

[Randazzo]

The first step is not to be a twit when someone tries to help you.

What you're saying doesn't make sense. There are no stages of atmosphere.

Take a screenshot or describe what's happening in a way that other people can understand.

[Draalo]

Maybe he isnt a native speaker ... anyway.

I asume you mean the upper atmosphere.

If your rocket flips you are too fast and/or using the wrong angle. Try starting at 80% thrust (if you are using solid boosters reduce their thrust in the vehicle assembly building).

 

If its still fliping try a screenshoot and post it here.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Draalo

[Plusck]

I really wish people who posted tutorial videos prior to the latest version (@Scott Manley in particular, yes you of all people) would go back and state very clearly in the description that their methods won't work with the latest version. I'd hate to be cynical and think that either they don't care that so many people are led astray, or they prefer to keep youtube revenues trickling in.
That alone would eliminate a huge amount of pain and frustration for newer and younger players - for whom checking youtube videos before even trying the game seems to have become a natural reaction.

Not that that excuses blatant rudeness, but it might cure part of the cause.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Plusck

[Loren Pechtel]

19 hours ago, Trib601 said:

None of the above, any rocket I build regardless of the tutorials and videos all fail at the 2nd stage of the atmosphere and just careen out of control..........

Put some fins on.  Make sure it's perfectly symmetrical.

Personally, I find it extremely hard to fly a proper gravity turn without flipping the rocket.  I always end up flying too high a trajectory and wasting some fuel in the process.

[Superfluous J]

6 hours ago, Plusck said:

I really wish people who posted tutorial videos prior to the latest version (@Scott Manley in particular, yes you of all people) would go back and state very clearly in the description that their methods won't work with the latest version. I'd hate to be cynical and think that either they don't care that so many people are led astray, or they prefer to keep youtube revenues trickling in.

I have (well, had. I'm going to change it right now) one of those videos. I didn't go back and so change it because it never occurred to me I do recall thinking I'd take it down or put up an alert if I ever put up new ones. Call it a hole in my common sense processes.

Edited March 22, 2016 by 5thHorseman

[Plusck]

8 minutes ago, 5thHorseman said:

I have (well, had. I'm going to change it right now) one of those videos. I didn't go back and so change it because it never occurred to me I do recall thinking I'd take it down or put up an alert if I ever put up new ones. Call it a hole in my common sense processes.

It's not too great an oversight if you aren't getting thousands of hits per month. Or if it doesn't appear on, say, the first page of a Google video search for "Kerbal Space Program tutorial"

Looking at the dates, somebody's going to have to tell people that probably half of each of those videos is wrong...