KerBlammo Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just now, Motokid600 said: Why couldn't they just get permission to boost back to land? I think it had more to do with the delta-v budget than anything else, they need less remaining fuel to land down range than RTLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt_flyer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Motokid600 said: Why couldn't they just get permission to boost back to land? i'm not sure they even finished building the landing pads at vandenberg Edited January 17, 2016 by sgt_flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Motokid600 said: Why couldn't they just get permission to boost back to land? Just now, KerBlammo said: I think it had more to do with the delta-v budget than anything else, they need less remaining fuel to land down range than RTLS. I also think they don't have a landing site on the west coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty1 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 No they haven't. It's still just leveled dirt, no concreate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturusvfx Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Guess the F9 V 1.1 was never meant to land :(..............In one piece anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdivine Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, KerBlammo said: I think it had more to do with the delta-v budget than anything else, they need less remaining fuel to land down range than RTLS. They had more than enough delta-v to land back at land, but i heard they couldn't get clearance from the air force or some party who controls the airspace(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Oh so its not been constructed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelLestat Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Latcarf said: What if the drone ship was fitted with rockets on the four corners -- so that it could make contact above the waves and compensate for the wind in the same way the landing rocket does? ^^^ this is the best idea I've ever had. I dont think that the wind and waves move the drone.. its proppelers should be able to correct those things. The problem is the lack of stability, in the video it seems to experience 20 degress change in each wave. They need gyroscopes to solve that.. and a bigger ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen_Heart Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I felt seasick just watching that stream. There is a reason I avoid boats like the plague. Really hope the mission itself goes off well though. That is far more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, Arcturusvfx said: Guess the F9 V 1.1 was never meant to land :(..............In one piece anyway. It landed just fine in Florida several days ago. It's landing on barges that rockets have trouble with. But the same can be said about planes and aircraft carriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen_Heart Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just now, Scotius said: It landed just fine in Florida several days ago. It's landing on barges that rockets have trouble with. But the same can be said about planes and aircraft carriers. That was the V 1.2 though. This one is the last V 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Jason-3 is in orbit. Mission completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelLestat Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Scotius said: It landed just fine in Florida several days ago. It's landing on barges that rockets have trouble with. But the same can be said about planes and aircraft carriers. there is a big difference in size between an aircraft and a carrier, this thing is just like a little boat in comparison with the rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Oh well, the mission was a success, they stuck the landing, just those pesky landing gear. If they could get it land within 1 meter of target, perhaps they could have a clap system instead of landing gear. Imagine 3 or more small towers with at least two levels of extendible wheels. the rocket would land between the towers, the wheels would rapidly extend, press against the rocket from all sides and hit latches, locking on to the rocket. I'll try to make it in KSP for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchz95 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 What if they had electromagnets or something on the barge that can switch on upon landing to slow it down or even just keep the stage upright? No idea if that's actually possible, but it would give them time to stabilize it before it has a chance to tip over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Here like this (minus the fins of course, KSP has not latching system for the landing gear) http://imgur.com/x0PZnfT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EladDv Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Edited January 17, 2016 by EladDv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frida Space Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 51 minutes ago, KerBlammo said: I think it had more to do with the delta-v budget than anything else, they need less remaining fuel to land down range than RTLS. No, the Jason 3 satellite is quite light-weight, they had plenty of excess DeltaV. The problem is they didn't get permission to fly over a wildlife preserve area near launch site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchz95 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, EladDv said: Beat me by one second. Edited January 17, 2016 by Mitchz95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hcube Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mitchz95 said: What if they had electromagnets or something on the barge that can switch on upon landing to slow it down or even just keep the stage upright? No idea if that's actually possible, but it would give them time to stabilize it before it has a chance to tip over. you would need some seriously big electromagnets. Like... ehm... very big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Hcube said: you would need some seriously big electromagnets. Like... ehm... very big. That's A lot of extra complication. The simple, long term reliable solution, like the fellow said, is just get a bigger barge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman703 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Wait, does that mean that much like the last barge landing, it landed, but tipped over moments afterwards? Because that's much different then hitting the deck too hard and fireballing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Wingman703 said: Wait, does that mean that much like the last barge landing, it landed, but tipped over moments afterwards? Because that's much different then hitting the deck too hard and fireballing. No, I think it means it landed much like the land-landing last launch, but then one of the landing gear folded up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EladDv Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, tater said: No, I think it means it landed much like the land-landing last launch, but then one of the landing gear folded up. both are plausible we'll have to see the landing footage to be sure (or verbal confirmation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yellow Dart Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mitchz95 said: What if they had electromagnets or something on the barge that can switch on upon landing to slow it down or even just keep the stage upright? No idea if that's actually possible, but it would give them time to stabilize it before it has a chance to tip over. I think the problem was mechanical, and had nothing to do with speed or the barge or waves. The leg folded out but didn't lock, and so when it touched down, that leg folded back up and the the rocket tipped. Here is Scott Manley's response on twitter: https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/688806812464758786 p.s. How do you post the fancy tweet thing like people did above? Edited January 17, 2016 by The Yellow Dart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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