[Minimum KSP version - 1.11] Kerbal Attachment System (KAS) v1.12

[LatiMacciato]

35 minutes ago, IgorZ said:

I'm going to break the backwards compatibility at least one time more before going to the release (see the disclaimer)

some questions appeared in my head.

Where we find that disclaimer?
Does that mean all "old" pre-1.0 (beta) KAS objects will be depreciated then?
Is it correct that if the KAS 1.0 becomes stable (post-beta) the "old" KAS will be depreciated entirely?

 

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by LatiMacciato
gah the forum tricked me!

[IgorZ]

29 minutes ago, LatiMacciato said:

Where we find that disclaimer?

Well, after your question I've revisited the OP and figured out the point was not that obvious:

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Since it's a beta for now avoid using these parts in your main game. While parts design is pretty stable the exact properties may change (e.g. break force or minimum length).

However, you should admit, I've clearly said you should not be using it in the carrier game.  I've made a red text in the OP to make it more obvious. Thanks for bringing my attention to it!

29 minutes ago, LatiMacciato said:

Does that mean all "old" pre-1.0 (beta) KAS objects will be depreciated then?
Is it correct that if the KAS 1.0 becomes stable (post-beta) the "old" KAS will be depreciated entirely?

It was stated several times in the thread, but now I've made it a red text in OP. Again, thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Out of curiosity, have you ever worked in the legal field?

Edited April 26, 2018 by IgorZ

[Kazvan]

Hi, my first post here.
I hope this is the correct place to post.

I cannot transfer fuel using the CC-R2 between a saddle tank and a kontainter tank (see image).
Any idea what's wrong? I don't know what else to do.

KSP is up to date (Steam on PC) and I use several mods all updated using CKAN.
List of mods:

Spoiler

[x] Science! (xScience vV5.14)
AmpYear (AmpYearPowerManager 1:V1.5.2.0)
AT Utils (AT-Utils v1.5.1)
BonVoyage (BonVoyage 0.13.3)
Chatterer (Chatterer 0.9.95)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit 3.0.0.0)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack 0.10.0.0)
Configurable Containers Core (ConfigurableContainers-Core 2.4.2)
DeepFreeze Continued... (DeepFreeze V0.23.8.0)
Environmental Visual Enhancements (EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements 2:EVE-1.4.2-2)
Firespitter Core (FirespitterCore v7.9.0)
Ground Construction Core (GroundConstruction-Core 1.2.1.1)
Kerbal Alarm Clock (KerbalAlarmClock v3.9.1.0)
Kerbal Attachment System (KAS 0.6.4.0)
Kerbal Engineer Redux (KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.4.10)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.10)
Konstruction (Konstruction 0.5.0.0)
Malemute Rover (MalemuteRover 0.6.0.0)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 3.0.6)
PlanetShine (PlanetShine 0.2.6.1)
PlanetShine - Default configuration (PlanetShine-Config-Default 0.2.6.1)
Precise Maneuver (PreciseManeuver 2:2.4.1)
RasterPropMonitor (RasterPropMonitor 1:v0.30.0)
RasterPropMonitor Core (RasterPropMonitor-Core 1:v0.30.0)
RemoteTech (RemoteTech v1.8.10.3)
REPOSoftTech-Agencies (REPOSoftTech-Agencies V1.5.2.0)
S.A.V.E (SAVE 1.5.2-3063)
scatterer (Scatterer 2:v0.0329_for_1.4.2)
scatterer - default config (Scatterer-config 2:v0.0329_for_1.4.2)
scatterer - sunflare (Scatterer-sunflare 2:v0.0329_for_1.4.2)
Ship Save Splicer (ShipSaveSplicer 1.2.0)
Stock Visual Enhancements (StockVisualEnhancements 3:1.3.0.4)
Stock Visual Enhancements-High Res Textures (SVE-HighResolution 3:1.0.7)
Toolbar (Toolbar 1.7.17.11)
Trajectories (Trajectories vKSP1.4.2-v2.2.0)
USI Core (USI-Core 0.7.0.0)
USI Kolonization Systems (MKS/OKS) (UKS 1:0.55.0.0)
USI Life Support (USI-LS 0.9.0.0)
USI Tools (USITools 0.12.0.0)
WorldStabilizer (WorldStabilizer 0.9.1)
 

Is there any other information I have to provide?
Thank you!

[IgorZ]

9 hours ago, Kazvan said:

Hi, my first post here.
I hope this is the correct place to post.

I cannot transfer fuel using the CC-R2 between a saddle tank and a kontainter tank (see image).
Any idea what's wrong? I don't know what else to do.

KSP is up to date (Steam on PC) and I use several mods all updated using CKAN.
List of mods:

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[x] Science! (xScience vV5.14)
AmpYear (AmpYearPowerManager 1:V1.5.2.0)
AT Utils (AT-Utils v1.5.1)
BonVoyage (BonVoyage 0.13.3)
Chatterer (Chatterer 0.9.95)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit 3.0.0.0)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack 0.10.0.0)
Configurable Containers Core (ConfigurableContainers-Core 2.4.2)
DeepFreeze Continued... (DeepFreeze V0.23.8.0)
Environmental Visual Enhancements (EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements 2:EVE-1.4.2-2)
Firespitter Core (FirespitterCore v7.9.0)
Ground Construction Core (GroundConstruction-Core 1.2.1.1)
Kerbal Alarm Clock (KerbalAlarmClock v3.9.1.0)
Kerbal Attachment System (KAS 0.6.4.0)
Kerbal Engineer Redux (KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.4.10)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.10)
Konstruction (Konstruction 0.5.0.0)
Malemute Rover (MalemuteRover 0.6.0.0)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 3.0.6)
PlanetShine (PlanetShine 0.2.6.1)
PlanetShine - Default configuration (PlanetShine-Config-Default 0.2.6.1)
Precise Maneuver (PreciseManeuver 2:2.4.1)
RasterPropMonitor (RasterPropMonitor 1:v0.30.0)
RasterPropMonitor Core (RasterPropMonitor-Core 1:v0.30.0)
RemoteTech (RemoteTech v1.8.10.3)
REPOSoftTech-Agencies (REPOSoftTech-Agencies V1.5.2.0)
S.A.V.E (SAVE 1.5.2-3063)
scatterer (Scatterer 2:v0.0329_for_1.4.2)
scatterer - default config (Scatterer-config 2:v0.0329_for_1.4.2)
scatterer - sunflare (Scatterer-sunflare 2:v0.0329_for_1.4.2)
Ship Save Splicer (ShipSaveSplicer 1.2.0)
Stock Visual Enhancements (StockVisualEnhancements 3:1.3.0.4)
Stock Visual Enhancements-High Res Textures (SVE-HighResolution 3:1.0.7)
Toolbar (Toolbar 1.7.17.11)
Trajectories (Trajectories vKSP1.4.2-v2.2.0)
USI Core (USI-Core 0.7.0.0)
USI Kolonization Systems (MKS/OKS) (UKS 1:0.55.0.0)
USI Life Support (USI-LS 0.9.0.0)
USI Tools (USITools 0.12.0.0)
WorldStabilizer (WorldStabilizer 0.9.1)
 

Is there any other information I have to provide?
Thank you!

https://github.com/ihsoft/KAS/issues/189

[Kazvan]

19 minutes ago, IgorZ said:

https://github.com/ihsoft/KAS/issues/189

Thank you so much, I kept trying all sorts of combinations.

[LatiMacciato]

21 hours ago, IgorZ said:

Out of curiosity, have you ever worked in the legal field?

At least I never had issues with authorities, if that is your question.

Thanks for clarifying the upcoming stuff

[IgorZ]

48 minutes ago, LatiMacciato said:

At least I never had issues with authorities, if that is your question.

Thanks for clarifying the upcoming stuff

Your question wrt: the disclaimer reminded me my experience working with the legal guys. Never mind

[sdfjh]

i think there's a problem with my KAS

if i attach a component to a wrench in VAB/SPH, it will work out properly;

but if i try to attach components( a electric magnetic for example), it seems the component is not actually attached to the wire in the wrench(when ejected, the wire inside penetrates the component which is seemingly mounted onto the shell of the wrench), and it's mounted in reverse, compared to normal condition.

is this possible to be solved?

(it's my first time using this forum, and i dont know how to insert pictures, might make my words hard to understand, sorry)

Edited April 30, 2018 by sdfjh
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[ExplorerKlatt]

@sdfjh see this post:  

On 4/1/2018 at 12:26 AM, IgorZ said:

Thanks. Finally, I've figured it out! The issue was fixed on my side, but the updated files were never released, even though I thought they were.

I'll make and release the update one day (the legacy KAS maintenance is very low priority task). But you can fix it yourself. Open the magnet, harpoon and grapple configs and find the following string:

allowPartAttach = Disabled

And replace it to:

allowPartAttach = AllowedWithKisTool

This will fix the issue.

 

[sdfjh]

it did work ! thanks a lot;

but why such a simple problem hasn't been coped with in the latest release of KAS? (just curious)

[IgorZ]

19 hours ago, sdfjh said:

but why such a simple problem hasn't been coped with in the latest release of KAS? (just curious)

Have you ever heard about the term "bug"?

[Virtualgenius]

Hi havent used this mod for a long while just enquiring what happened to the KAS boxes with  the the neat little carrier, the one in the KIS mod doesnt appeal to me and will they be coming back 

Edited May 14, 2018 by Virtualgenius

[ExplorerKlatt]

The containers from KAS have been gone for at least a couple years. KAS no longer does the part storage. That functionality has moved permanently to KIS. Those containers will most likely never return. 

 

Edit: If you want to use the old containers check here

Edited May 14, 2018 by ExplorerKlatt

[Virtualgenius]

@ExplorerKlattThanks for your help like I said its been a while I guess I can try and make them work with KIS  

 

PS I got them to work with some cfg changes

Edited May 15, 2018 by Virtualgenius

[Capt. Hunt]

I'm not sure this is a KAS problem, but it's one of my more likely candidates, because I just updated to the latest KAS 1.0 build. 

My docking ports have stopped working, no matter how I try, the docking ports just don't want to connect.

This is what I get for downloading a bunch of stuff at a time, but most of the other mods in this bunch don't stand out as anything that might effect docking functionality.

The other candidates are MAS, ASET props, Near Future Props, KIS, Cormorant, DockingFX, FMRS and Procedural Fairings.

If it helps, I did notice that one of these mods added a docking radar to the port, but I'm not sure which one.

I'm wondering if anyone here might be able to help.

here's my output log:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xcstvdgyx5xi4kv/output_log.txt?dl=0

[Virtualgenius]

Just uninstall each mod until you find the culprit, I would start with DockingFX  its a pain in the butt to do but sometimes quicker

[Capt. Hunt]

Ok, as I suspected it wasn't docking FX.  I still think it's tied to whatever added the radar, although I don't recall a docking radar being mentioned in any of those mod's threads.

[IgorZ]

2 hours ago, Capt. Hunt said:

I'm not sure this is a KAS problem, but it's one of my more likely candidates, because I just updated to the latest KAS 1.0 build. 

My docking ports have stopped working, no matter how I try, the docking ports just don't want to connect.

This is what I get for downloading a bunch of stuff at a time, but most of the other mods in this bunch don't stand out as anything that might effect docking functionality.

The other candidates are MAS, ASET props, Near Future Props, KIS, Cormorant, DockingFX, FMRS and Procedural Fairings.

If it helps, I did notice that one of these mods added a docking radar to the port, but I'm not sure which one.

I'm wondering if anyone here might be able to help.

here's my output log:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xcstvdgyx5xi4kv/output_log.txt?dl=0

FIrst of all,  KAS Beta is not the latest version of KAS. KAS 0.6.* and KAS Beta 1.0 are two completely different mods, they don't substitute each other. None of these mods does anything with the stock docking ports. I may make more guesses if you provide the right log file.

[Capt. Hunt]

12 minutes ago, IgorZ said:

FIrst of all,  KAS Beta is not the latest version of KAS. KAS 0.6.* and KAS Beta 1.0 are two completely different mods, they don't substitute each other. None of these mods does anything with the stock docking ports. I may make more guesses if you provide the right log file.

my mistake, I meant to post that in the other thread.

On further examination, it appears that MAS is the cause of the problem, it wasn't mentioned in the thread itself, but after some digging I found that the radar script was part of that mod, and after removing MAS my ports are working again.  I'll post in that thread to let them know. 

I thought we were back to going by the output_log again, it seems to vary from modder to modder which one to go by.

[fatcargo]

I've created a new github issue for two more-less minor enhacements :

1. Adding "stop" action hroup for winches (haven;t found any in SPH/VAB)

2. Adding winch part with centered cable for vertically mass-aligned payloads

[fatcargo]

Oh and one more thing ... I don't know if this was reported before : when pulling extremely heavy payloads, craft tends to go all wonky and Kraken messes it up. I made a "submarine" (to be precise a Bathysphere) that uses IW-50 winch attached to four USI floats and USI Otter impeller . Main lander can that houses a scientist and scientific instrumentation are linked below winch. Negative buoyancy is achieved using Jatwaa's MOIST!UWT mod (added intake and a fuel tank at very bottom). Problem is that UWT mod introduces CompressedLiquid resource which is VERY heavy and only a tiny amount is required. If not careful, one can easily add 100 tonnes in no time at all. Lowering the pod is not a problem, but as soon as i tried to raise it, Kraken messed up the platform and bugged the winch, freezing it at about 20m of cable length claiming it can't retract because of blockage. I started with a probe core and build from there. Build was kind of in reverse because the manned lander can is attached to winch. I did this since i needed to maintain view focus on the pod, not the platform.

Anyway the pics

Album /a/TDYeW9u will appear when post is submitted

Edited May 21, 2018 by fatcargo

[tonimark]

@IgorZYOUR KAS CONFLICTS WITH THE KERBAL konstructs mod so when i try to build something with kerbal konstructs mod the builder replaced with kas bebugger 

vie keys Ctrl + K the only keys for build something in kerbal konstruct plz fix that

[IgorZ]

15 minutes ago, tonimark said:

@IgorZYOUR KAS CONFLICTS WITH THE KERBAL konstructs mod so when i try to build something with kerbal konstructs mod the builder replaced with kas bebugger 

vie keys Ctrl + K the only keys for build something in kerbal konstruct plz fix that

Or, we could say the Kerbal Konstruct mod conflicts with my KAS  Please, see my comments in Github, where you've logged an issue.

[JoE Smash]

When you download KAS via CKAN for KSP v1.4.3, is it this old "depreciated" one or the newer "beta" one?

Also how do you get the science with KIS items....like the golf club score card?

[IgorZ]

1 hour ago, JoE Smash said:

When you download KAS via CKAN for KSP v1.4.3, is it this old "depreciated" one or the newer "beta" one?

The Beta version should be installed manually, and it doesn't conflict with the legacy KAS (for now). The version, which you download from CKAN, is the legacy KAS 0.6.*

1 hour ago, JoE Smash said:

Also how do you get the science with KIS items....like the golf club score card?

KIS items don't give science.