FreeThinker Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) On 8/20/2019 at 10:31 AM, pmborg said: "Do notice you stil need to acclerate up, which means maximizing deltaV might not the only variable to take into account. " Yes true, I am still doing the Math to reach to best point of equilibrium point, until now I was kinda limiting my self to a min. TWR of 0.15 but tried to put away that limitation and check what is possible to get. I am still convict that is possible to reach the speed of light with these engines, I have the mental image of what is needed just need to model the idea. "Do notice that the reactor also needs fuel (which is not taken into account by Kerbal engener), but this should be less then 1% of total. Justtake that into account" I will check this thanks! Good, also, don't you forget to add use the magnetic scoop to double your deltaV (for the high speed trip) which should be activated only when you want to slow down. This effecyively allow you to speed up to maximum lightspeed. It can also be used a a backup, if you wanted to return home ... 18 hours ago, pmborg said: @FreeThinker, The reactor fuel usage, I am using the "Tri Aplha Colling Beam Fusion" no fuel usage observed at least. Well make sure it has enough fuel to last the trip. Note: it cannot run on hydrogen, but it does on Deuterium and other fusion fuels Edited August 21, 2019 by FreeThinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 hours ago, FreeThinker said: Good, also, don't you forget to add use the magnetic scoop to double your deltaV (for the high speed trip) which should be activated only when you want to slow down. This effecyively allow you to speed up to maximum lightspeed. Well make sure it has enough fuel to last the trip. NOte it cannot run on hydrogen, but it does on DEuterium and any other fusion fuel "magnetic scoop to double your deltaV (for the high speed trip)" Thanks for the remind I need to redesign the ship a bit to put again the magnetic scoop "Well make sure it has enough fuel to last the trip. NOte it cannot run on hydrogen, but it does on DEuterium and any other fusion fuel" Normally there is a rate of "part description" of what is spend but I don't have any numeric value to calculate this, please note that probably 17 years is ok with the fuel already inside the scaled reactor... Trying Radial Spherical Tanks... but something is wrong to maintain the basic stability, even with empty tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Found an elegant solution to "magnetic scoop", I think: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 what part is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, FreeThinker said: what part is that? PART NAME: "SY-P3X2" scaled to 15m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, pmborg said: PART NAME: "SY-P3X2" scaled to 15m No idea where it comes from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, FreeThinker said: No idea where it comes from Hello back, D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData>findstr /S /I "SY-P3X2" *.cfg SpaceY-Lifters\Parts\CargoBays\SYbay3m2m.cfg:title = SY-P3X2 3.75m to 2.5m Conical Payload Bay Belongs to SpaceY-Lifters, here opened: Cheers! Edited August 21, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Hello again, After solving literally 96 problems, until now... Hit now the problem that you were talking about (@FreeThinker), lack of deuterium, now I know that I am consuming about 26k per 4h this is almost insane... I am trying to understand how can I create/produce by other fuel like depleted fuel or something... and at the same time trying to understand what are the best tanks for deuterium. maybe these 4 tanks will be the necessary with a total 6,912,000 lqdDeuterium, need to recalc / test again... Edited August 22, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Ok confirmed that is more than enough for all trip, uff... so solved all problems until now InterStellarShuttle-v5.1 Finally Ready! (We can call this InterStellar Stage-1) Going for a full test: Edited August 23, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 All documentated in videos so far... at this point... seams that I am going almost at infinite fuel consumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Why the NERVAs, those are quite primitive nuclear engines (gen 1) Edited August 23, 2019 by FreeThinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, FreeThinker said: Why the NERVAs, those are quite primitive nuclear engines (gen 1) Those will be used just by the lander module to do the de-orbit, passing from orbit of the target planet to sub re-entry orbit, are old but do the job of re-entry. The requisites are light and spend light fuel and at the same time powerful enough, what do you recommend? Current snapshot: Edited August 23, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, pmborg said: The requisites are light and spend light fuel and at the same time power enough, what do you recommend? I would recommend the "Timberwind" Rotating Fluidized Bed Reactor Engine, which has best thrust to weight. Edited August 23, 2019 by FreeThinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FreeThinker said: I would recommend the "Timberwind" Rotating Fluidized Bed Reactor Engine, which has best thrust to weight. This ship is "InterStellarShuttle-v5-2-117M", I can do a InterStellarShuttle-v5-3-117M Another thing that I noticed is that I will not need is the 3 nuclear reactors, the next ship revision I will remove the "StarLifter Nuclear Reactor" is very week and not needed after all I think. "InterStellarShuttle-v5-2-117M": partModules = ATGroundAnchor partModules = AtmosphericExtractor partModules = CModuleLinkedMesh partModules = CModuleStrut partModules = ComputerCore partModules = DaedalusEngineController partModules = DeepFreezer partModules = FissionGenerator partModules = FissionReactor partModules = FlagDecal partModules = FlatFNRadiator partModules = FNFissionGeneratorAdapter partModules = FNGeneratorAdapter partModules = FNMassSpectrometer partModules = FNSolarPanelWasteHeatModule partModules = FSengineSounds partModules = FSplanePropellerSpinner partModules = FSswitchEngineThrustTransform partModules = FXModuleLookAtConstraint partModules = FXModuleThrottleEffects partModules = GroundWorkshop partModules = HLEnvelopePartModule partModules = InertialConfinementReactor partModules = IntegratedChargedParticlesPowerGenerator partModules = IntegratedThermalElectricPowerGenerator partModules = InterstellarFuelSwitch partModules = InterstellarMeshSwitch partModules = InterstellarPowerSupply partModules = InterstellarRefineryController partModules = InterstellarResourceConverter partModules = Jettison partModules = KASLinkTargetBase partModules = KopernicusSolarPanel partModules = KspiSuperCapacitator partModules = KSPTextureSwitch partModules = KSPWheelAdjustableDeployment partModules = KSPWheelBase partModules = KSPWheelBrakes partModules = KSPWheelConstraints partModules = KSPWheelDamage partModules = KSPWheelDeployment partModules = KSPWheelSuspension partModules = LifeSupportModule partModules = MechJebCore partModules = MKSModule partModules = ModuleActiveRadiator partModules = ModuleAnalysisResource partModules = ModuleAnimateGeneric partModules = ModuleAnimationGroup partModules = ModuleAsteroidAnalysis partModules = ModuleB9PartInfo partModules = ModuleB9PartSwitch partModules = ModuleB9PropagateCopyEvents partModules = ModuleBiomeScanner partModules = ModuleCargoBay partModules = ModuleColorChanger partModules = ModuleCommand partModules = ModuleConductionMultiplier partModules = ModuleConstructionKit partModules = ModuleCoreHeat partModules = ModuleCoreHeatNoCatchup partModules = ModuleDataTransmitter partModules = ModuleDecouple partModules = ModuleDockingNode partModules = ModuleDragModifier partModules = ModuleElementRadioactiveDecay partModules = ModuleEngines partModules = ModuleEnginesFX partModules = ModuleEnviroSensor partModules = ModuleExperienceManagement partModules = ModuleFuelJettison partModules = ModuleGenerator partModules = ModuleGimbal partModules = ModuleGPS partModules = ModuleJettison partModules = ModuleKerbNetAccess partModules = ModuleKISInventory partModules = ModuleKISItem partModules = ModuleKPBSConverter partModules = ModuleLiftingSurface partModules = ModuleLight partModules = ModuleLogisticsConsumer partModules = ModuleParachute partModules = ModuleProbeControlPoint partModules = ModuleRCS partModules = ModuleReactionWheel partModules = ModuleResourceConverter partModules = ModuleResourceHarvester partModules = ModuleResourceIntake partModules = ModuleResourceScanner partModules = ModuleSAS partModules = ModuleScienceContainer partModules = ModuleScienceConverter partModules = ModuleScienceExperiment partModules = ModuleScienceLab partModules = ModuleSeeThroughObject partModules = ModuleStorageCryostat partModules = ModuleSurfaceFX partModules = ModuleTestSubject partModules = ModuleToggleCrossfeed partModules = ModuleTripLogger partModules = ModuleUpdateOverride partModules = ModuleWeightDistributor partModules = RadioactiveStorageContainer partModules = RetractableLadder partModules = SCANexperiment partModules = SCANresourceDisplay partModules = SCANsat partModules = SolarWindCollector partModules = TacGenericConverter partModules = ThermalPowerTransport partModules = TweakScale partModules = USILS_HabitationSwapOption partModules = USILS_LifeSupportRecyclerSwapOption partModules = USI_Converter partModules = USI_ConverterSwapOption partModules = USI_InertialDampener partModules = USI_ModuleRecycleablePart partModules = USI_ModuleResourceWarehouse partModules = USI_SwapController partModules = USI_SwappableBay partModules = WBIExperimentLab partModules = WBIModuleScienceExperiment partModules = WBIPartScrapper partNames = B9.Engine.T2A.SRBS partNames = B9.Structure.HX1.SAS partNames = BussardEngine2 partNames = BussardScoop partNames = cargo-5-2 partNames = computerCore partNames = CRY-2300Freezer partNames = DIYKit partNames = Fert.Tank.375 partNames = FTT.DuctedFan.Lg partNames = FTT.Reactor.500.01 partNames = gasspectrometer-01 partNames = HL.AirshipEnvelope.Cirrus partNames = HL.AirshipEnvelope.Ray partNames = ifsBigSphereTank partNames = InlineGroundWorkshop partNames = InterstellarSphereTank partNames = KAS.JS1 partNames = KF-LegFolding partNames = KKAOSS.LS.container.airfilter partNames = KKAOSS.LS.container.algae partNames = KKAOSS.LS.container.carbon.extractor partNames = KKAOSS.LS.container.greenhouse partNames = KKAOSS.LS.container.sabatier partNames = KKAOSS.Storage.size2.m partNames = KSPI.ISRU.Refrigerator partNames = kspieMagneticScoop partNames = KspiTriAlphaFusionReactor partNames = KWFuelAdapter2x1S partNames = Large.Crewed.Lab partNames = LargeFlatRadiator2 partNames = LH.IcarusTruss13 partNames = LH.IcarusTruss21 partNames = MuonCatFusionReactor2 partNames = nfs-panel-deploying-blanket-dsg-1 partNames = ntr-gc-25-2 partNames = parachuteRadial partNames = RadialAtmosphericScoop partNames = radialDrogue partNames = RSBdecouplerDelta3payload partNames = RSBdecouplerDeltaIV4mPayload partNames = RSBdecouplerDeltaIV5mPayload partNames = RSBfinSaturnSIwhiteS partNames = rtg-0625 partNames = SCANsat.Scanner24 partNames = ScoutLanderMk2 partNames = sensorAtmosphere partNames = sensorBarometer partNames = sensorThermometer partNames = sepMotor1 partNames = spotLight1 partNames = sspx-cupola-125-1 partNames = sspx-greenhouse-25-1 partNames = sspx-greenhouse-375-1 partNames = sspx-hub-25-1 partNames = strutConnector partNames = strutCube partNames = SurfaceScanner partNames = SYbay3m2m partNames = SYdecoupler5m partNames = SYserviceBay5m partNames = TacCarbonExtractorLarge375 partNames = TacLifeSupportContainer partNames = TacLifeSupportContainerLarge375 partNames = TacWaterPurifierLarge375 partNames = telescopicLadderBay partNames = USILS.Greenhouse.Inline Edited August 23, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, pmborg said: This ship is "InterStellarShuttle-v5-2-117M", I can do a InterStellarShuttle-v5-3-117M Another thing that I noticed is that I will not need is the 3 nuclear reactors, the next ship revision I will remove the "StarLifter Nuclear Reactor" is very week. Notice if want to preserve on fuel, the Nuclear Lightbulp is your strongest ally . It provide moderatly high isp which can be be downscaled to generate more thrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FreeThinker said: Notice if want to preserve on fuel, the Nuclear Lightbulp is your strongest ally . It provide moderatly high isp which can be be downscaled to generate more thrust. For the main nuclear reactor I am using a beast 16m TriAlfa which generated around 4GW, I have the fuel problem of the reactor solved, delicated tanks for him, and for 216years... of usage. Edited August 23, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, pmborg said: For the main nuclear reactor I am using a best 16m TriAlfa which generated around 4GW, I have the fuel problem of the reactor solved, delicated tanks for him, and for 216years... of usage. Sorry, Nuclear Lightbulb is an engine, not a reactor, lol. It is a closed cycle nuclear eninge. Edited August 23, 2019 by FreeThinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Basically the reactor TriAlfa is using Deuterium and I can transport very easially LqdDeuterium which is being converted automatically to Deuterium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) lol only now, discovered that I can run with engines at accelerated time rate: x10000! Edited August 23, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) In a matter of minutes got speed: 100,000km/s , I accelerated to much I think At the breaking point now: Edited August 24, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, pmborg said: lol only now, discovered that I can run with engines at accelerated time rate: x10000! Wait, you didn't knew about timewarp? How did you imagine to speed up? Edited August 24, 2019 by FreeThinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, FreeThinker said: Wait, you didn't knew about timewarp? How did you imagine to speed up? I knew about the Time Warp and about the time Physics Warp but not about the Hyper Warp, but I found a problem with Hyper Warp, the life support systems don't work, which means that the water, the oxygen and food that should be recycled with the systems that I had on board were not working. Another thing, that I would like to have your help if possible, is about trying to get those Hydrogen Atoms from InterStellar Media with scoops, how can I do it? Probably I am doing something wrong about it. Last topic the Magnetic Scoop was doing a break force of 1Kn... is useless !? or am I also doing something wrong? Edited August 24, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, pmborg said: Another thing, that I would like to have your help if possible, is about trying to get those Hydrogen Atoms from InterStellar Media with scoops, how can I do it? Probably I am doing something wrong about it. Last topic the Magnetic Scoop was doing a break force of 1Kn... is useless !? or am I also doing something wrong? Well the Idea is tha you open the magnetic scoop and activate the integrated Ultra Voilet laser which will ionize the free floating ions allowing you to capture them and creat more drag. EXactly whee and a what speed were you going when using thre magnetic scoop? Edited August 25, 2019 by FreeThinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmborg Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, FreeThinker said: Well the Idea is tha you open the magnetic scoop and activate the integrated Ultra Voilet laser which will ionize the free floating ions allowing you to capture them and creat more drag. EXactly whee and a what speed were you going when using thre magnetic scoop? The speed was in the image about 100,000km/s the where is also in distance of Rendezvous (image) to Alfa Centauri Edited August 25, 2019 by pmborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinker Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, pmborg said: The speed was in the image about 100,000km/s the where is also in distance of Rendezvous (image) to Alfa Centauri What is the heliosphere factor?, it is visible on thr magnetic scoop context menu. Also are in in the SOI of the Homeworld star or in SOI of Alfa Centauri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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