Carrier Landing Challenge

[Wjolcz]

Did you know the first jet-powered plane to land on a carrier was a Sea Vampire?

 

Your challenge is to do the same! But... where's the carrier, you may ask. There aren't any in KSP! Behold my mad MS Paint skills:

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So now that you know where to land the rules are:

-Each competitor starts with the total of 115 points
-Each crossed line takes away 5 points (there are 23 lines)
-You have to approach the "carrier" from north (the white arrow)
-Don't touch the grass (imaginary boundries of the "carrier")
-The only engine you can use is 1xJuno 
-You have to set all of your brakes to 200% (keep in mind this is more of a tip than a strict rule)
-You can't use any powered wheels
-Take screenshots of: brakes settings, the approach and your landing position (top view, just so it's easier to calculate the score)
-No VTOLs
-No chutes
-No external seats (either a probe body or a closed canopy cockpit)

 

Here's my entry:

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It seems I scored 80 points...

LEADERBOARD (manned)

1. norup (100 points)

2.quasarrgames (90 points)

3.Veeltch (80 points)

4.Van Disaster (65 points)

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LEADERBOARD (unmanned)

1. norup (105 points)

2. EpicSpaceTroll139 (95 points)

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GOOD LUCK!

Edited October 8, 2016 by Veeltch

[Van Disaster]

-1 for no mention of "Winkle" bonus for imaginative use of a car park!

I actually made something quite like a Vampire a while ago ( even has a BDA AI setup ), but very far from stock. No mention of stock in rules though, so I should dig it up

[drtricky]

How can you verify that someone hasn't used a vessel mover mod to place their aircraft?

[TheDestroyer111]

WHO SAID THERE ARE NO AIRCRAFT CARRIERS IN KSP http://imgur.com/a/kBanf

BTW thanks for making me realize for the first time that setting brakes to 200 can make my carrier landings much easier!

@drtricky Challenges are just for fun 

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What is cheating in a single player game?

(IDK who said the above quote)

Edited September 25, 2016 by TheDestroyer111

[Wjolcz]

17 minutes ago, drtricky said:

How can you verify that someone hasn't used a vessel mover mod to place their aircraft?

I can't. It's up to you if you cheat or not. Can't check that.

[TheDestroyer111]

http://imgur.com/a/AiMSQ

What is it? Nobody said we have to do it in a conventional horizontal-flight plane

[Wjolcz]

7 minutes ago, TheDestroyer111 said:

http://imgur.com/a/AiMSQ

What is it? Nobody said we have to do it in a conventional horizontal-flight plane

Eh, I knew I forgot about something...

No VTOLS from now on!

[TheDestroyer111]

@Veeltch

Wait... Should I edit the craft file or how do I get 200% brakes?

//EDIT No chutes too? Oh yeah, that is basically vertical landing... But not everyone understands that parachutes are a subset of VTOL.

Edited September 25, 2016 by TheDestroyer111

[quasarrgames]

1 minute ago, TheDestroyer111 said:

@Veeltch

Wait... Should I edit the craft file or how do I get 200% brakes?

You right click on the gear part in the editor. There should be a slider labelled "brakes". Just turn it up to 200.

Also, i did it with this little ultralight glider. Lost the engine, but as you can see i only crossed 5 lines, so that's 90 points for me!

[TheDestroyer111]

10 minutes ago, quasarrgames said:

You right click on the gear part in the editor. There should be a slider labelled "brakes". Just turn it up to 200.

How de*** do I turn up a slider that is already maxed?

Could this be caused by that that you are playing on 1.1.3 or 1.2.0 and I am on 1.1.0?

//EDIT: @Veeltch please update the leaderboard!

Edited September 25, 2016 by TheDestroyer111

[Wjolcz]

55 minutes ago, TheDestroyer111 said:

How de*** do I turn up a slider that is already maxed?

Could this be caused by that that you are playing on 1.1.3 or 1.2.0 and I am on 1.1.0?

//EDIT: @Veeltch please update the leaderboard!

We're on 1.2 so probably that's why you don't have that.

[Van Disaster]

This

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is not

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going

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to plan.

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I seem to be quite bad at this! I may have to resort to a light aircraft.

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kudos to Eric Brown, wow. Also, good challenge

[Van Disaster]

Well, it was the nosewheel of course - reset it, and after hitting the pond wall for half an hour got the thing down finally. Needs to be a bit slower ( not sure how I can to that, tbh ), but hey, landed a "Vampire" on the "carrier".

Wheel settings

 

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Edited September 25, 2016 by Van Disaster

[Wjolcz]

@Van Disaster 45 points. Is that correct?

[Van Disaster]

If you're counting the nose, yep - if it's from the tail it'd be 55 I think. Will do another run tomorrow once I try some wheel things.

[Martian Emigrant]

Just my 2¢ here but landing distance should be at the nose wheel.

If a carrier was 100m long and you landed the nose wheel at the 101m mark you just fell over or in any case missed your landing. The carrier was too short.

In the same manner if the nose wheel was 10 meters from the end the carrier was 10 meters longer than it need to be.

QED

 

ME

[TheKosanianMethod]

I have an old micro fighter, made just for carriers. I may give this a shot. Can I use retro rockets as an arrestor wire substitute?

[HazelPine]

This challenge looks fun! I think I'll give it a whirl over the weekend!

[AccidentsHappen]

I have a Vampire replica for 1.1. I've successfully landed it on a carrier that I downloaded (both crafts are stock), but does that count?  Anyhow, I NEED to try this challenge!

[Van Disaster]

Minor improvement. Persuading this thing to stop after touchdown is not easy :S other than when I clipped the grass & it just about stopped dead.

Edit: landing obsolete, deleted pics to reduce thread spam.

Obligatory pond shot...

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Edited September 27, 2016 by Van Disaster

[ZooNamedGames]

Hm... *looks at challenge*.

I've landed my Saturn Shuttle in spaces much... much smaller.

[Foxster]

On 25/09/2016 at 4:18 PM, Veeltch said:

Did you know the first jet-powered plane to land on a carrier was a Sea Vampire?

 

Wasn't there a weird US aircraft a bit before that that had a jet and a piston-powered prop, which was at least partially jet-powered, that landed on a carrier? 

Edited September 27, 2016 by Foxster

[Van Disaster]

25 minutes ago, Foxster said:

Wasn't there a weird US aircraft a bit before that that had a jet and a piston-powered prop, which was at least partially jet-powered, that landed on a carrier? 

Yes, it's in the WP article. I suspect it wasn't out of choice...

[Wjolcz]

59 minutes ago, Foxster said:

Wasn't there a weird US aircraft a bit before that that had a jet and a piston-powered prop, which was at least partially jet-powered, that landed on a carrier? 

There was, but Sea Vampire was the first pure jet aircraft to do so.

19 hours ago, TheKosanianMethod said:

I have an old micro fighter, made just for carriers. I may give this a shot. Can I use retro rockets as an arrestor wire substitute?

Nope, sorry. Only Juno and brakes.

But you can flip the plane just before the touch down. I kinda want to see that happen to be honest.

20 hours ago, Martian Emigrant said:

Just my 2¢ here but landing distance should be at the nose wheel.

If a carrier was 100m long and you landed the nose wheel at the 101m mark you just fell over or in any case missed your landing. The carrier was too short.

In the same manner if the nose wheel was 10 meters from the end the carrier was 10 meters longer than it need to be.

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ME

Yup. That's why I measure it from the nose, not the back.

[Van Disaster]

A better landing, finally: ( I'll edit my last post )

I make that 10 stripes? so that's 65 score. Think that's as good as that Vampire will get, I'll have to dig out a light plane to do better.