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Can Vulcan Centaur launch on just two BE-4 engines without side boosters?

 This Blue Origin page says Vulcan Centaur can get 10.8 tons payload to LEO on its two BE-4 engines without using side boosters:  

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 But we can calculate the mass of the Vulcan booster to show its beyond that of the thrust of the two BE-4 engines.

 See here:  

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  According to the heights given along the side of the image on the right, the bottom of the booster tank is at about 20 feet high, and its top at about 110 feet, for a length of 90 feet, 27.4 meters. The diameter is 5.4 meters, for a radius of 2.7 meters. Then the volume is π*2.72*27.4 = 627.5 m3 . The density of methalox or methanolox at the mixture ratio of liquid O2 to CH4 of 3.6 is about 800 kg/m3. Then the mass of the propellant is 502,000 kg.  

 But the sea level thrust of the BE-4 engine is 550,000 pounds, so two is 1,100,000 pounds, i.e., 500 metric tons force. So two BE-4’s could not even loft the booster stage, let alone the upper stage and payload.

  Robert Clark

 

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17 minutes ago, Exoscientist said:

 But the sea level thrust of the BE-4 engine is 550,000 pounds, so two is 1,100,000 pounds, i.e., 500 metric tons force. So two BE-4’s could not even loft the booster stage, let alone the upper stage and payload.

You're suggesting ULA is lying, or haven't done the actual math with the real numbers that they in fact know for certain?

My guess would be that they would prop load to what would fly with a given payload. So the tanks 100% full with the SRMs all in place, and possibly a lower prop load for configurations with fewer SRMs.

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