kerbiloid Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 https://earthsky.org/human-world/orbital-oopsy-a-tool-bag-is-now-orbiting-earth/ That's how the great story begins... Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 I should be able to catch a photo of it next time the station comes visibly by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 If the bag was opened, it will be a panoramic photoset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Eh, give it a couple of months in a decaying orbit and problem will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Scotius said: Eh, give it a couple of months in a decaying orbit and problem will be gone. If there are any Snap-On tools in the bag that survive reentry NASA can return them for free replacements Edited November 12, 2023 by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 11:54 AM, Scotius said: Eh, give it a couple of months in a decaying orbit and problem will be gone. In the thick air (like a city street) even a couple of minutes can be enough for the bag of tools to disappear. Aerobraking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Oops... Meanwhile... https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/science/news/2020/02/23/n_14072659.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp So, 12 years is not a limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2023/dec/09/space-orbit-mystery-international-space-station-tomato Missing tomato on ISS found 8 months after disappearance, astronaut Francisco Rubio exonerated of stealing and eating the tomato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 They are coming. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Don't think there is an Axiom station thread, and this will be stuck to ISS before it does any free flying, so I guess it goes here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Unguided indeed! "...so NASA jettisoned the batteries from the space station in 2021 to head for an unguided reentry..." https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/trash-from-the-international-space-station-may-have-hit-a-house-in-florida/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Codraroll Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/06/on-the-space-station-band-aid-fixes-for-systemic-problems/ So, apparently, the ISS is doing kind of badly. As in "Scoring fives on the five-point scales of consequence and probability in the risk matrix" badly. "1-in-10 or higher odds of catastrophe" badly. A small module located next to the Zvezda module is leaking, which is worrying, and they haven't found out why, which is horrifying. The station is planned to be in operation for five more years, but the chances of getting any serious maintenance on these systems in the meantime are kind of small. I'm kind of sad that the plans for its replacement have not come any further than they have, because the odds of having to abandon the ISS prematurely are getting uncomfortably high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 So, it's the time for NASA to give money for replacement, if they are planning to keep ISS working next years. Though, the Spektr module of Mir was leaking for years after being rammed, and ISS has greater volume, thus more air inside and time to vent out the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Off the cuff: Seal off and vent the leaking module. Overpressurize (within safety margins), but still isolated, with gas containing a some ppm concentration of fluorescent microspheres or powder. Diameter based on half of suspected leak size. Have astronaut on EVA with UV light source examine outside of module. Wait awhile. Vent module to space. Repressurize normally, filter remaining particles out of the air while still isolated for awhile. Then unseal and go poke around inside with a UV flashlight looking for where particles may have collected on leak path Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 6 hours ago, kerbiloid said: So, it's the time for NASA to give money for replacement, if they are planning to keep ISS working next years. Though, the Spektr module of Mir was leaking for years after being rammed, and ISS has greater volume, thus more air inside and time to vent out the air. It's not an easy module to replace, though. A few other modules are also attached to it, and would have to be moved around (if making new, tight seals with their decade-old docking adapters are even possible) or discarded (in which case the station would need a new life support system). And even if repairs are somehow successful, the ISS remains very old with only a few years left in its lifespan. Other modules are also showing their age. It's like changing the engine on a very old car: it's expensive, and only a matter of time before something else breaks, so the effort might be for naught. So rather, it's the time for NASA to give money for a replacement station. Along with ESA, JAXA, and CSA, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) 5 hours ago, darthgently said: Overpressurize (within safety margins), but still isolated, with gas containing a some ppm concentration of fluorescent microspheres or powder. N2O. Then watch, who's laughing. I mean, maybe the leakage is inside Zvezda. 3 hours ago, Codraroll said: It's not an easy module to replace, though. A few other modules are also attached to it, and would have to be moved around (if making new, tight seals with their decade-old docking adapters are even p I share your care, but Prichal has 4 free ports, and is docked to the new Nauka module, rather than to the old Zvezda. https://www.energia.ru/ru/iss/rs/zvezda.html#zvezda Spoiler Btw, it's the root node of the coming ROSS. 3 hours ago, Codraroll said: it's the time for NASA to give money for a replacement station. Agreed. Funding ROSS would be nice of them. Edited June 8 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 7 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Agreed. Funding ROSS would be nice of them. Rather, Orbital Reef or Axiom. There is zero reason to involve the Russians on the next station, seeing how it worked out on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 7 hours ago, Codraroll said: Rather, Orbital Reef or Axiom. There is zero reason to involve the Russians on the next station, seeing how it worked out on this one. Interesting facts: there were zero reasons to involve the Westerners on the working Mir station, and the Russians are still involved on the ISS, while it was working out always like always. Maybe they forgot to report you something? Edited June 9 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Possible medical emergency on the ISS. https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1801028546703306765?s=46&t=X_3pYMdCCOx3EH_7dvCogQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Update, People are saying it was a simulation that was accidentally broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Thankfully, officially confirmed to be a misrouted simulation. https://x.com/Space_Station/status/1801043194253127963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 On 6/8/2024 at 1:30 AM, darthgently said: Off the cuff: Seal off and vent the leaking module. Overpressurize (within safety margins), but still isolated, with gas containing a some ppm concentration of fluorescent microspheres or powder. Diameter based on half of suspected leak size. Have astronaut on EVA with UV light source examine outside of module. Wait awhile. Vent module to space. Repressurize normally, filter remaining particles out of the air while still isolated for awhile. Then unseal and go poke around inside with a UV flashlight looking for where particles may have collected on leak path We used to find leaks acoustically. Have they tried using an ultrasonic leak detector? I guess I would have thought that would be standard equipment on a space station, so maybe they have already tried this, On 6/8/2024 at 2:15 PM, Codraroll said: Rather, Orbital Reef or Axiom. There is zero reason to involve the Russians on the next station, seeing how it worked out on this one. For quite a while the Russians were the only way to get people to the station at all. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 8 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: For quite a while the Russians were the only way to get people to the station at all. Just saying. A situation that was largely caused by the decision to retire the space shuttle before a replacement was ready, a decision that was influenced by the Russian service being available in the first place. The US had a fallback option and decided to go for it to save money. What happened next was that the Russians set prices to extortion levels once they were the only supplier. And then things began to fail in a bad way when their increased spending on new spaceports, reduced income, and the corruption problem finally trickled down into quality control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, Codraroll said: the decision to retire the space shuttle before a replacement was ready, a decision that was influenced by the Russian service being available in the first place. So the decision to put the lift out of order was caused not by two of five broken cables, but because the sneaky Russkies had a stairway at the wall... Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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