[1.3.1] Ferram Aerospace Research: v0.15.9.1 "Liepmann" 4/2/18

[Hodo]

Having a minor problem with FAR.

Downloaded the new patch, and now don't see the control surfaces settings menu anymore. Just gives me the simulation options.

This along with a dozen other issues, but not with this mod luckly.

[ferram4]

Try right-clicking on the control surface; we have tweakables support now.

[Hodo]

Try right-clicking on the control surface; we have tweakables support now.

Ok that maybe the problem...lol

[Traches]

You take off work today Ferram? Nice work getting every one of your mods updated for .23 before it had been out even a full day.

[ferram4]

Well... I'm unemployed, so I don't have work to take off from. Bright side is that I can get all of this stuff put together in all the free time I have.

[TheOrqwithVagrant]

"Laythe is given an oxygenated atmosphere with volcanic components: ~21% 02, ~9% N2, ~35% CO2, ~35% SO2".

Ouch, so much for habitability - Laythe's oceans are now a lovely mix of sulfurous and sulfuric acid! Good thing KSP doesn't model corrosion yet.

[nullreference]

my engines flame out at transonic speed for some reason

they are using the side intakes btw

[jrandom]

Is version v.12 still compatible with KSP 0.22? I can't switch over to KSP 0.23 until all of my core mods have been confirmed to work or are ported over.

[Wafflz]

I am having a problem that i believe is being caused by FAR. Upon updating to .23 i added only a few mods, FAR, KJR, and enhanced navball. Everything was working great until I tried my first orbital flight in the new patch in my brand new career save. It seems that something was broken with the decouplers. They behaved very strangely at high altitudes and in orbit. I can only say that this happened with the standard medium decoupler that is unlocked I think in the first science purchase. It seemed that after decoupling the spent stage would fly away at a tremendous rate in a retrograde direction. To test that I placed my craft facing retrograde and staged, which resulted in the spent stage colliding with the upper stage instantaneously. After this happened once I exited the game and deleted Kerbal Joint Reinforcement from my mods and tried again, and I got the same result. So, I exited out again and this time deleted FAR, the next test fixed the problem and the decoupler worked as usual.

Edit: I wanted to add that I updated through steam, and also verified integrity of game before even starting up for the first time.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Wafflz

[ferram4]

@nullreference: At what altitude and angle of attack? I've not seen this happen at all in my tests, and frankly, it sounds like something else is causing the issue.

@jrandom: Nope, as a result of changes to the way the editor Lock function works. You'll have to stick to v0.11 for KSP 0.22.

[scul]

I just updated, and I am unable to move the FAR button in both the VAB and during flight.

I tried left click, right click, middle click. Both with the big FAR window open and closed.

[jrandom]

Got it. Looks like I'll be with 0.22 few a few days. Hope it's not weeks -- I've been hearing about drastically-improved framerates.

[stoddard14]

I just updated, and I am unable to move the FAR button in both the VAB and during flight.

I tried left click, right click, middle click. Both with the big FAR window open and closed.

Same here. I'm not sure how the toolbar works or if there is even a way to move it.

[ferram4]

Click on the arrow on the side of the toolbar; that will open a dropdown menu that will allow you to unlock its position. Then move it all over the place.

[scul]

Click on the arrow on the side of the toolbar; that will open a dropdown menu that will allow you to unlock its position. Then move it all over the place.

Thanks, must have missed clicking that arrow, some how

[jpinard]

Ferram - you rock!!! Woohoo .23 here I come!

[jrandom]

Awright, looks like there's enough progress on the other mods... screw it, I'm .23'ing this. My other savegame had just started up anyways, so now is the best time to start over.

Now to get these 60+ mods installed...

[Wafflz]

Anyone else having trouble with decouplers?

[track122]

Yeah decouplers are being really weird for me since I installed the new version of this. At 120km, facing retrograde while decoupling destroyed my entire ship every time. Decoupling facing radially just destroyed the jettisoned parts.

[ferram4]

Yeah, I'm aware of this. Turns out that vessels are set up to have an altitude of 0 when they're first created, which leads to FAR picking the density at sea level every time you decouple things.

I'm working on a fix right now, should be out in ~10-15 mins.

[track122]

Oh wow that's some dedication, thanks! Guess I'll have to take a break on the new patch for a little bit then, can't play without FAR and KJR anymore haha.

[ferram4]

Version 0.12.1 is out, and the bug is squashed. Basically what was happening was that I was using the vessel's altitude to determine what the atmospheric density was, but that is apparently set to 0 for the first physics frame that it exists. So every part was getting smacked with sea-level atmospheric density on decoupling.

Mea culpa. I should have done more testing; that level of game breaking shouldn't have gotten through. Sorry for that guys.

[sTiKyt]

Exactly 15 minutes 0_0

[longhornchris]

@ferram - FAR was out by the time I was actually able to download .23. I'm not going to complain about a bug or two needing to be squashed.

Oh, and that was a quick turn-around - I think I can speak for everyone when I say you are awesome.

[longhornchris]

@ferram - update works as advertised but I'm getting a significant performance hit in the atmosphere over .22/11 or .23/12.1 Figured you would want to know.