Lighting errors with kopernicus body's

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

i am having errors with kopernicus body's and the lighting, the sunlight is not where its suppose to be (its on the other side that the suns facing) and its really annoying because the craft and kerbals have normal lighting and shadows but the planet doesn't. any way to fix it?

the moons config (its still experimental and im going to change things in it because it has more then one bug. also i used the name of the moon as a placeholder for the description )

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@Kopernicus:FOR[Kerbolsystemexpanded]
{
   Body
{
name = Pabos

       Debug
       {
           exportMesh = true
           update = true
       }
       cacheFile = KSE/Cache/Pabos.bin
Template
{
name = Moho
           removePQSMods = FlattenOcean, VertexSimplexNoiseColor, HeightColorMap
}
Properties
{
           displayName = Pabos
           radius = 85050
           geeASL = 0.066
           tidallyLocked = true
       description = Pabos
           timewarpAltitudeLimits = 0 1594 3188 6375 12750 25500 51000 102000
           albedo = 0.55
           emissivity = 0.98
           ScienceValues
           {
               landedDataValue = 12.5
               splashedDataValue = 1
               flyingLowDataValue = 1
               flyingHighDataValue = 1
               inSpaceLowDataValue = 12
               inSpaceHighDataValue = 10
               recoveryValue = 11
               spaceAltitudeThreshold = 53100
       }
biomeMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_biome.png
           Biomes
{
Biome
{
name = The minty area
                   displayName = The minty area
value = 1
color = 122,0,8,1
}
Biome
{
name = The surface
                   displayName = The cold minty surface
value = 1
color = 0,0,0,1
}
Biome
{
name = The surface
                   displayName = The great stripe
value = 1
color = 1,17,122,1
}
Biome
{
name = The surface
                   displayName = Minty hills
value = 1
color = 0,122,43,1

}
           }

}
Orbit
{
referenceBody = Vool
color = RGBA(10, 100, 100, 1)
           semiMajorAxis = 811238620
           inclination = 35.2
           eccentricity = 0.0
           longitudeOfAscendingNode = 220
argumentOfPeriapsis = 50
           meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
epoch = 213
}
       ScaledVersion
{
           fadeStart = 21263
           fadeEnd = 42525
           OnDemand
           {
               texture = KSE/TEXTURE/Plugindata/Pabos_color.png
       normals = KSE/TEXTURE/Plugindata/Pabos_normal.dds
           }
}
       PQS
{
           fadeStart = 42525
           fadeEnd = 85050
           deactivateAltitude = 85475
           minLevel = 2
           maxLevel = 8
           minDetailDistance = 6
           maxQuadLengthsPerFrame = 0.03
           materialType = AtmosphericExtra
           allowFootprints = True
           Material
           {
               saturation = 1
               contrast = 1.3
               tintColor = 1,1,1,0
               groundTexStart = 0
               groundTexEnd = 9000
               steepTexStart = 0
               steepTexEnd = 9000
               steepTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               steepBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               steepNearTiling = 2500
               steepTiling = 25
               lowTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               lowBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               lowNearTiling = 5000
               lowMultiFactor = 50
               lowBumpNearTiling = 5000
               lowBumpFarTiling = 50
               midTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               midBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               midNearTiling = 5000
               midMultiFactor = 50
               midBumpNearTiling = 5000
               midBumpFarTiling = 50
               highTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               highBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               highNearTiling = 5000
               highMultiFactor = 50
               highBumpNearTiling = 5000
               highBumpFarTiling = 50
               lowStart = 0
               lowEnd = 0.5
               highStart = 0.8
               highEnd = 1
           }
Mods
{
               VertexHeightMap
               {
                   map = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_hight.png
                   offset = 0
                   deformity = 4000
                   scaleDeformityByRadius = False
                   order = 10
                   enabled = True
               }
               VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
               {
                   seed = 9834534
                   deformity = 400
                   octaves = 8
                   persistence = 0.5
                   frequency = 24
                   enabled = true
                   order = 20
               }
               VertexSimplexHeight
               {
                   seed = 408934
                   deformity = 200
                   octaves = 8
                   persistence = 0.5
                   frequency = 4
                   enabled = true
                   order = 30
               }
               VertexHeightNoiseVertHeightCurve2
               {
                   deformity = 300
                   ridgedAddFrequency = 32
                   ridgedAddLacunarity = 2
                   ridgedAddOctaves = 8
                   ridgedAddSeed = 83482211
                   ridgedMode = Low
                   ridgedSubFrequency = 32
                   ridgedSubLacunarity = 2
                   ridgedSubOctaves = 8
                   ridgedSubSeed = 1111452343
                   simplexFrequency = 24
                   simplexHeightEnd = 2000
                   simplexHeightStart = 0
                   simplexOctaves = 8
                   simplexPersistence = 0.5
                   simplexSeed = 780234980
                   order = 40
                   enabled = True
                   simplexCurve
                   {
                       key = 0 0 0 0
                       key = 0.6311918 0.4490898 1.432598 1.432598
                       key = 1 1 0 0
                   }

               }
               VertexColorMap
               {
                   map = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_color.png
                   order = 60
                   enabled = True

                               {
                               }
                           }
                       }
                   }
               }
}
}
}
}

@Kopernicus:BEFORE[SigmaBinary]
{
   @Body[Pabos]
   {
       SigmaBinary
       {
           name = Vool-Pabos
           primaryLocked = true
           redrawOrbit = true
       }
   }
}

screenshots of the error:

Edited October 29, 2020 by Jeb_da_kerbal

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 29, 2020

@Jeb_da_kerbal did you re-exported the normal map file with DXT5_nm format in gimp?

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

Quote

13 minutes ago, Dat Kerbal Dude said:

@Jeb_da_kerbal did you re-exported the normal map file with DXT5_nm format in gimp?

i didint use gimp for any of this, i used a website that turns images into normal maps, why? would that fix the problem or is that what you think is causing the error?

EDIT: wait i just realized i left the normal map name as pabos_normal.dds, the normal map is a png file, ill fix that rn

okay so that changed the hightmap but the lighting errors still there

Edited October 29, 2020 by Jeb_da_kerbal

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 29, 2020

5 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

i didint use gimp for any of this,

oh, i normally use gimp for my texturing purposes.

6 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

i used a website that turns images into normal maps

which website?

6 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

why?

the DXT5_nm format is really needed for normal map files,without it, the normal file is practically dead.

8 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

would that fix the problem

yes.

9 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

is that what you think is causing the error?

no.

so i have a couple of solutions for you:

convert that normal file into png(don't forget to rotate it vertically, as dds files are commonly Vertical backwards)

or

re-export it with the DXT5_nm format.

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

ah ok, ill try re exporting it as a DXT5_nm format and see how that works

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

@Dat Kerbal Dude that fixed it from orbit and map view, but it still happens on the ground, do i need to export the color and height maps as DXT5_nm now?

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 29, 2020

2 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

that fixed it from orbit and map view, but it still happens on the ground

ummmm,maybe you need to change the opacity of the normal map texture to %50? and see if it works? :unsure:

1 minute ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

do i need to export the color and height maps as DXT5_nm now?

no.

that would make things... worser? idk.

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

Ok, i set the normal map to 50% with no luck, ill try more stuff later

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

i set the biome, Hight and color maps to dds to see if it would fix it on the surface, the moon turned white and when i put something on it my game crashes

the compression of the files are not DXT5_nm, i set the compression to none, the reason why i am probably having so much errors is because im new at kopernicus and yt vids don't give much info

also i changed them to dds for a test, turns out it makes it even worse (kind of like what you said, but i didn't compress it)

Edited October 29, 2020 by Jeb_da_kerbal

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 29, 2020

1 hour ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

when i put something on it my game crashes

maybe you can show me the log file?

also:

i think you need to re-export the biome and color file texture with the DXT5 format,and L8 for the height map.

12 hours ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

Ok, i set the normal map to 50% with no luck

:huh:

what happened?

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

Quote

maybe you can show me the log file?

the moons kopernicus log file?

Quote

i think you need to re-export the biome and color file texture with the DXT5 format,and L8 for the height map.

ok, ill try that

Quote

what happened?

same thing as before, lightings fixed from map/orbit, but on surface its still broken.

also my gas planets have the same lighting error with the light on the wrong side, i think its because there texture is a png or something

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

@Dat Kerbal Dude I don't think this is a problem with the texture format, i changed the biome and color maps and it didn't work, changing the normal map file format only fixed its map/orbit view version, the lighting error also happens with my gas giants. so idk what's going on

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 29, 2020

4 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

@Dat Kerbal Dude I don't think this is a problem with the texture format, i changed the biome and color maps and it didn't work, changing the normal map file format only fixed its map/orbit view version, the lighting error also happens with my gas giants. so idk what's going on

ummmmmm...

try re-exporting these texture files into png?

also, did you changed the cfg file?

if so,can you show me it again?

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

@Dat Kerbal Dude

Quote

try re-exporting these texture files into png?

ive experimented, the error happens even if its a png or dds. idk whats going on

Quote

also, did you changed the cfg file?

if so,can you show me it again?

i dont think i did anything that much to it, but here it is

Quote

@Kopernicus:FOR[Kerbolsystemexpanded]
{
   Body
{
name = Pabos

       Debug
       {
           exportMesh = true
           update = true
       }
       cacheFile = KSE/Cache/Pabos.bin
Template
{
name = Moho
           removePQSMods = FlattenOcean, VertexSimplexNoiseColor, HeightColorMap
}
Properties
{
           displayName = Pabos
           radius = 85050
           geeASL = 0.066
           tidallyLocked = true
       description = Pabos
           timewarpAltitudeLimits = 0 1594 3188 6375 12750 25500 51000 102000
           albedo = 0.55
           emissivity = 0.98
           ScienceValues
           {
               landedDataValue = 12.5
               splashedDataValue = 1
               flyingLowDataValue = 1
               flyingHighDataValue = 1
               inSpaceLowDataValue = 12
               inSpaceHighDataValue = 10
               recoveryValue = 11
               spaceAltitudeThreshold = 53100
       }
biomeMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_biome.dds
           Biomes
{
Biome
{
name = The minty area
                   displayName = The minty area
value = 1
color = 122,0,8,1
}
Biome
{
name = The surface
                   displayName = The cold minty surface
value = 1
color = 0,0,0,1
}
Biome
{
name = The surface
                   displayName = The great stripe
value = 1
color = 1,17,122,1
}
Biome
{
name = The surface
                   displayName = Minty hills
value = 1
color = 0,122,43,1

}
           }

}
Orbit
{
referenceBody = Vool
color = RGBA(10, 100, 100, 1)
           semiMajorAxis = 811238620
           inclination = 35.2
           eccentricity = 0.0
           longitudeOfAscendingNode = 220
argumentOfPeriapsis = 50
           meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
epoch = 213
}
       ScaledVersion
{
           fadeStart = 21263
           fadeEnd = 42525
           OnDemand
           {
               texture = KSE/TEXTURE/Plugindata/Pabos_color.dds
       normals = KSE/TEXTURE/Plugindata/Pabos_normal.dds
           }
}
       PQS
{
           fadeStart = 42525
           fadeEnd = 85050
           deactivateAltitude = 85475
           minLevel = 2
           maxLevel = 8
           minDetailDistance = 6
           maxQuadLengthsPerFrame = 0.03
           materialType = AtmosphericExtra
           allowFootprints = True
           Material
           {
               saturation = 1
               contrast = 1.3
               tintColor = 1,1,1,0
               groundTexStart = 0
               groundTexEnd = 9000
               steepTexStart = 0
               steepTexEnd = 9000
               steepTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               steepBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               steepNearTiling = 2500
               steepTiling = 25
               lowTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               lowBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               lowNearTiling = 5000
               lowMultiFactor = 50
               lowBumpNearTiling = 5000
               lowBumpFarTiling = 50
               midTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               midBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               midNearTiling = 5000
               midMultiFactor = 50
               midBumpNearTiling = 5000
               midBumpFarTiling = 50
               highTex = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface.png
               highBumpMap = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Surface_normal.png
               highNearTiling = 5000
               highMultiFactor = 50
               highBumpNearTiling = 5000
               highBumpFarTiling = 50
               lowStart = 0
               lowEnd = 0.5
               highStart = 0.8
               highEnd = 1
           }
Mods
{
               VertexHeightMap
               {
                   map = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_hight.png
                   offset = 0
                   deformity = 4000
                   scaleDeformityByRadius = False
                   order = 10
                   enabled = True
               }
               VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
               {
                   seed = 9834534
                   deformity = 400
                   octaves = 8
                   persistence = 0.5
                   frequency = 24
                   enabled = true
                   order = 20
               }
               VertexSimplexHeight
               {
                   seed = 408934
                   deformity = 200
                   octaves = 8
                   persistence = 0.5
                   frequency = 4
                   enabled = true
                   order = 30
               }
               VertexHeightNoiseVertHeightCurve2
               {
                   deformity = 300
                   ridgedAddFrequency = 32
                   ridgedAddLacunarity = 2
                   ridgedAddOctaves = 8
                   ridgedAddSeed = 83482211
                   ridgedMode = Low
                   ridgedSubFrequency = 32
                   ridgedSubLacunarity = 2
                   ridgedSubOctaves = 8
                   ridgedSubSeed = 1111452343
                   simplexFrequency = 24
                   simplexHeightEnd = 2000
                   simplexHeightStart = 0
                   simplexOctaves = 8
                   simplexPersistence = 0.5
                   simplexSeed = 780234980
                   order = 40
                   enabled = True
                   simplexCurve
                   {
                       key = 0 0 0 0
                       key = 0.6311918 0.4490898 1.432598 1.432598
                       key = 1 1 0 0
                   }

               }
               VertexColorMap
               {
                   map = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_color.dds
                   order = 60
                   enabled = True

                               {
                               }
                           }
                       }
                   }
               }
}
}
}
}

@Kopernicus:BEFORE[SigmaBinary]
{
   @Body[Pabos]
   {
       SigmaBinary
       {
           name = Vool-Pabos
           primaryLocked = true
           redrawOrbit = true
       }
   }
}

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

also heres screenshots of what i mean when i say (its fixed from map/orbit veiw)

the top one is when i zoomed out, and the bottom one is from the lander close to the surface

same area, same time they where taken at, its weird

Edited October 29, 2020 by Jeb_da_kerbal
D E T A I L S

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 29, 2020

wait, I think i found it:

1 minute ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

       ScaledVersion
{
           fadeStart = 21263
           fadeEnd = 42525
           OnDemand
           {
               texture = KSE/TEXTURE/Plugindata/Pabos_color.dds
       normals = KSE/TEXTURE/Plugindata/Pabos_normal.dds
           }
}

It looks like you didn't specified properly the normal and the texture file,but you specified properly on the OnDemand setting,which it makes kopernicus to go a little bit misguided.

try changing your current ScaledVersion settings to this:

Spoiler


		}
		ScaledVersion
		{
			type = Vacuum
			fadeStart = 21263
			fadeEnd = 42525
			Material
			{
				color = 8,8,8,1
				specColor = 0.0769999996,0.0769999996,0.0769999996,1
				shininess = 0.03
				texture = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_Color.dds
				normals = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_Normal.dds
			}
		}

also,try deleting the Pabos.bin,as the bin file stores the old data,which it means that it loads outdated and old data to your planet.

also also,i forgot to tell you that the color and the normal map file also needs to be re-exported with the mipmap format,but don't compress the other texture files with the mipmap format.

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 29, 2020

@Dat Kerbal Dude it turned into moho..

this is probably my fault and i might of added the new config stuff in wrong

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}
Orbit
{
referenceBody = Vool
color = RGBA(10, 100, 100, 1)
           semiMajorAxis = 811238620
           inclination = 35.2
           eccentricity = 0.0
           longitudeOfAscendingNode = 220
argumentOfPeriapsis = 50
           meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
epoch = 213
   }
       ScaledVersion
       {
           type = Vacuum
           fadeStart = 21263
           fadeEnd = 42525
           Material
           {
               color = 8,8,8,1
               specColor = 0.0769999996,0.0769999996,0.0769999996,1
               shininess = 0.03
               texture = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_Color.dds
               normals = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_Normal.dds
           }
       }
}
       PQS
{

also you can go inside this moho clone, the physics of it are smaller then the ski

update: there's a tylo or mun inside this fake moho, whats going on here

Edited October 29, 2020 by Jeb_da_kerbal

Dat Kerbal Dude · October 30, 2020

13 minutes ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

       ScaledVersion
       {
           type = Vacuum
           fadeStart = 21263
           fadeEnd = 42525
           Material
           {
               color = 8,8,8,1
               specColor = 0.0769999996,0.0769999996,0.0769999996,1
               shininess = 0.03
               texture = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_Color.dds
               normals = KSE/TEXTURE/PluginData/Pabos_Normal.dds
           }
       } <-------------what
}

looks like you double closed the ScaledVersion in your cfg,which it makes(Again) kopernicus gets confused.

try removing that extra bracket(}).

also,try changing the specColor to 0.6,0.5,0.7,1.

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 30, 2020

@Dat Kerbal Dude fixed the extra closing bracket and its still a moho with invisble tylo inside, how am i screwing up this badly

Wait, i was checking the moon with kittopiatech and the texture and normal said "BULTIN/moho01" and BULTIN/moho02, the configs dont say that themselfs

Jeb_da_kerbal · October 30, 2020

Im probably going to just live with the problem right now, because we both don't see what's causing the error and its not that big of a deal if the sunlights not where its suppose to be

(and i want to work on the other moons but i don't have time if I'm trying to solve a error that we don't know the cause of

Edited October 30, 2020 by Jeb_da_kerbal

DunaManiac · October 30, 2020

15 hours ago, Jeb_da_kerbal said:

Wait, i was checking the moon with kittopiatech and the texture and normal said "BULTIN/moho01" and BULTIN/moho02, the configs dont say that themselfs

That means a classic filepath error. BUILTIN/moho01 is Moho's texture. I don't use .dds because (scary stuff happens when I tried). a .png works fine. Basically, what I do is that I submit the textures as normal .pngs, then export the normal map with Kittopia and it works fine.

Also, in the Material section of PQS, it's not meant to be your scaledspace/PQS map. It's meant to make the surface have subtle textures, like small rocks. You don't even need Material (in PQS) right now, I would suggest deleting it and see if that helps.

(White is also a filepath failure. White is the default texture).

Also, delete MaterialType in PQS that also causes problems.

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