thinking about making a soviet-type pack, feedback please?

[Sbowyer28]

Thats what she said :|, Anyways I've only opened up blender twice and I don't want to mess up this entire pack with crappy parts, If I can't get the model Perfect I'll PM you and get your opinion and Hopefully I can get this right.

[Carthaginian]

so rockets are built in Russia and then stuck on a train to Kazakhstan

Actually, that was one of the major factors that they say contributed to the failure of the N1:

Major rocket equipment could be transported to Cape Canaveral by barge in one piece.

This is not so of the Soviet rockets, which had to be disassembled and shipped by train.

The assembly/disassembly/reassembly process was blamed for a myriad of defects that might have developed in the Soviet Rockets.

[mivanit]

well, as you can see from the my pictures, not a single part of this pack is picture-perfect, so don't worry about it.

this is supposed to be soviet-like, which basically gets me out of making the model have a kerbillion polygons and making you game lag.

perfect parts are nice, but not the point of focus here.

MY opinion is that it is better to quickly get a working but not-so-nice model to use, and maybe in later updates I will make it more accurate.

I would like the community opinion on the above statement tho ^

[Carthaginian]

I like the work quite a bit.

I've been looking forward to a Soviet-style parts pack with engines and such.

[Tiberion]

Here's a breakdown of the N1 rocket complex:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/n1.html

Question: is the intent to use the old K1 parts that Nova made? If so, it had a complete 1st stage (tank and engine) - but only 2nd and 3rd stage tanks and decouplers (the cages) so 2nd and 3rd stage engines would be the best place to start (if you're using the old parts anyway)

[AncientAstronaut]

I am looking forward to an N1. Will there be an LK lander in there, too?

[MaverickSawyer]

BTW funny how the 1st stage had smaller-sized engines than the second

Thanks to expansion nozzles.

[Sbowyer28]

Here's a breakdown of the N1 rocket complex:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/n1.html

Question: is the intent to use the old K1 parts that Nova made? If so, it had a complete 1st stage (tank and engine) - but only 2nd and 3rd stage tanks and decouplers (the cages) so 2nd and 3rd stage engines would be the best place to start (if you're using the old parts anyway)

Thanks for the breakdown and the cage is prob ganna be the only thing I may have trouble with, Hope not but still I may since I'm new to modeling. Also im doing a New N1 Parts set, I want this to be a learning experience for me.

I am looking forward to an N1. Will there be an LK lander in there, too?

Yes there will be a LK but perhaps not in the First update, Im new to modeling like I've said and that may be a bit tricky ATM, I plan on using Erkles docking mod and a Crewtank system for the LK so it can Seperate, land, Rendzevous, Ect. Just like the Real N1 it will hold Two kerbals, One will EVA to the LK, Land, EVA On the Mun, Launch, And Rendzevous with the Other kerbal in orbit around the Mun. What I plan on doing is picking about 3 Beta testers, The first Beta test will be testing the Command pod and Service module, Second will be (Hopefully) the LK and CM and possibly the Munar Booster, And Third will be the Rocket itself.

The only reason I'm letting people beta test is My laptop can barely run my rockets let alone a Mod, So Start to sign up for N1 Testing, Hopefully I can get the First out this week or next week.

Edit: If you want to Beta test PLEASE message me, don't spam here please, Rather have spam in my mailbox than here

Edited October 2, 2012 by Sbowyer28

[tjitte]

one tip for the poll: dont build a spesifick craft. just focus on rusia stile of making thigs, not on the things they put togeter whit it. this makes the pack more useble instead of one pervect craft you can build whit it.

and if you need help whit texturing, i can unwrap and for the rest im useless

[Aescwulf]

well, as you can see from the my pictures, not a single part of this pack is picture-perfect, so don't worry about it.

this is supposed to be soviet-like, which basically gets me out of making the model have a kerbillion polygons and making you game lag.

perfect parts are nice, but not the point of focus here.

MY opinion is that it is better to quickly get a working but not-so-nice model to use, and maybe in later updates I will make it more accurate.

I would like the community opinion on the above statement tho ^

I'm with you on this one.

I'm not fond of the high res models I like my mind to fill in the blanks.

Also a really nice model might stand out amongst stock parts

[mivanit]

Thanks for the replies! My original plan was to have a seperate pack of all the solar panels, antennas, and other "stickupy thingies" (<-- name of pack?) o put wherever. I will try to scale everything so it is compatible with both stock and other parts from the pack.

[Aescwulf]

Thanks for the replies! My original plan was to have a seperate pack of all the solar panels, antennas, and other "stickupy thingies" (<-- name of pack?) o put wherever. I will try to scale everything so it is compatible with both stock and other parts from the pack.

It's official the separate pack of all solar panels and stuff is officially called "Stickupy Thingies"

[mivanit]

^ that comment will go down in history.

[Sbowyer28]

Mivanit was that Google Sketch up you were using for the panels?

[mivanit]

indeed it was.

I model in sketchup, and then export to blender to get the UV layout and make a collision mesh.

Im not at modeling in general, but im most used to sketchup

[Sbowyer28]

What exporter you use? Im actually good at using Sketchup.

[mivanit]

erm...

i just go to file, export, and then turn it into a DAE, which can be imported by blender

no exporters needed!

Edited October 2, 2012 by mivanit

[Sbowyer28]

Good, So I should actually get some mods out, I may have the Command pod done today

[mivanit]

dont worry too much about the command pod for the K-1, im thinking it should be more of a multi-purpose rocket on top of which you can stick other stuff (like the Kostok, Keryuz, and LK lander)

[mivanit]

OH MA GAWD.

NOVASILSKO VOTED ON THE POLL.

HE HAS SEEN THIS POLL.

HE HAS SEEN MY USERNAME.

I FEEL SO IMPORTANT!!!

Nova, if you ver read this, just so you know, I practically worship you. If it weren't for you, I would never have had an Incentive to learn to model.

[Sbowyer28]

Shouldn't have read the N1 votes, NOW IT MUST BE PERFECT *Faints*

[mivanit]

Everything must be PERFECT!

Edited October 2, 2012 by mivanit

[Sbowyer28]

Mivanit you may wanna make your own N1-L3 model for just in case I screw up badly, I've never modeled before and the N1-L3 is going to be a challenging start. Nova I will make this perfect to the best of my ability.

[mivanit]

dont worry, if it turns out bad i might remake it, i cant work on it now anyway b/c of school work and the other ships im working on

[Sbowyer28]

I have school too and this is my first modeling project, Nova WHY DID YOU PUT SO MUCH PRESSURE ON MEH WHHHHHYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!