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[1.12.x] Parallax - PBR Terrain and Surface Objects [2.0.8]

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iterationAstro

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7 hours ago, JonnyOThan said:

KK has a MapDecal feature for removing scatters.  That should work for parallax too.

Oh, I see. Thanks for letting me know about this, but how do I implement this?

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Agustin

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I am playing stock ksp with a bunch of mods. Yesterday I had a strange torque where my vessel perfectly symetrical wanted to point in a different direction like it had a phantom force.
in the log of main KSP directory I had tons of these: maybe its related:
[EXC 00:19:47.454] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
    Grass.BodySwitchManager.Update () (at <9c0f8064d71048f18e0c652f62c72a2c>:0)
    UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
    ModuleManager.UnityLogHandle.InterceptLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
    UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)
maybe not.

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Gameslinx

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21 hours ago, Agustin said:

Yesterday I had a strange torque where my vessel perfectly symetrical wanted to point in a different direction like it had a phantom force

This isn't caused by Parallax, since it doesn't directly influence any forces on the craft. There are some cases where crafts will do this in a normal KSP install, or if SAS was off make sure you reset the trim using Alt + X and it should go away.

As for the exception, it just happens on a scene change (if it was happening all the time do let me know how you got this to happen). It's just Parallax checking to see if the dominant main body changed

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1 hour ago, Gameslinx said:

This isn't caused by Parallax, since it doesn't directly influence any forces on the craft. There are some cases where crafts will do this in a normal KSP install, or if SAS was off make sure you reset the trim using Alt + X and it should go away.

As for the exception, it just happens on a scene change (if it was happening all the time do let me know how you got this to happen). It's just Parallax checking to see if the dominant main body changed

yeah the phantom force surely was because of some part clipping I assume. About the spam.. All I can tell you I was going to Duna half way. So I was on solar orbit when that spam happened, not even close to a planet. so.. I don't know. Also I modified the config so the distance of tesseleation was 70 instead of 50. I go it back to 50 now in case that was causing the spam?

BTW, can I use kerbal wheel and foundries mod? or it isn't compatible with the physics on rocks thanks.

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16 minutes ago, Agustin said:

All I can tell you I was going to Duna half way. So I was on solar orbit when that spam happened, not even close to a planet. so..

This is a bug that was fixed in an update shortly after release. Can you make sure you're using the latest version?

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7 hours ago, Gameslinx said:

This is a bug that was fixed in an update shortly after release. Can you make sure you're using the latest version?

Yes I am sure I am running the latest super cool version. Of course. I installed it a couple of days ago.
If I run the issue again I will provide the logs.

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Are the positions of rocks consistent? or does the procedural nature of it makes it so that it changes the place when you unload.. load saves say... ?
I ask because a streamer said he couldn't install the mods because it would crash all their ships and I told him that he could load them with collisions off and then move everything is there are any rocks and re enable collisions. But he said the rocks would spam in different locations which I am sure is not the case.

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Entropian

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2 hours ago, TaintedLion said:

Does anyone have a new Parallax config for RSS yet?

Several people have been working on it, and I have a complete config for all the base RSS CBs myself, but I'm not interested in releasing it.  If you really want configs, it's trivially easy to learn the mechanics behind the configs but a bit tedious to make configs for all the CBs.

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21 minutes ago, TaintedLion said:

pls do i'm interested

Nah, it's janky as all get out and the other people working on it are significantly more skilled at this than I am, so their releases will be significantly higher quality than my version.

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On 10/17/2022 at 4:12 PM, Agustin said:

Are the positions of rocks consistent? or does the procedural nature of it makes it so that it changes the place when you unload.. load saves say... ?
I ask because a streamer said he couldn't install the mods because it would crash all their ships and I told him that he could load them with collisions off and then move everything is there are any rocks and re enable collisions. But he said the rocks would spam in different locations which I am sure is not the case.

the big collidable ones are consistent, the smaller ones not.

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1 minute ago, SiCaRiO31 said:

the big collidable ones are consistent, the smaller ones not.

oh okay but those are not collidable, right?. so no problem.
BTW, I was asking before if there was a conflict with kspwheel mod and foundries wheels and all that. It seems to work good.

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On 10/17/2022 at 2:56 AM, GianFrank said:

How can i find the best value for SigmaDimensions 10x Kerbin?

To get the same Density on a 10x scale you would need to set the density multiplier to ~100  but putting it that high will most likely cause your game to not load anymore, how far you can actually push it depends on how powerfull your PC is.  It seems 40-45 is about the highest multiplier some people get away with.

Dont forgett to reduce the multipliers for range and long range, at the same time as you turn up the density, it will help to reduce stress on your machine.

 

Finding the best compromise between density and playability is pretty much a matter of Try & Error

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Hi everyone,
At first, many thanks for this mod :)This mod is really nice!
But I have several graphics issues with shadows on this mod on linux machine (nvidia 3070 with opengp 4.6) and some error in KSP.log
Graphics issues are not reproduced when I run the windows version over steam-proton, but it's not playable for me (KSP works very bad over steam-proton) 


[ERR 09:43:15.530] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

[LOG 09:43:15.532] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreeLOD
[ERR 09:43:15.533] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

[LOG 09:43:15.534] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreeLOD2
[ERR 09:43:15.535] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

[LOG 09:43:15.537] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreeLOD3
[ERR 09:43:15.537] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

[LOG 09:43:15.539] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreesmooth
[EXC 09:43:15.541] MissingFieldException: Field 'KSPParticleEmitter.pe' not found.
	UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
	ModuleManager.UnityLogHandle.InterceptLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
	UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)
[LOG 09:43:15.542] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreesmoothLOD
[ERR 09:43:15.543] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

[LOG 09:43:15.544] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreesmoothLOD2
[ERR 09:43:15.545] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

[LOG 09:43:15.546] Load(Model): Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/flattreesmoothLOD2Optimized
[ERR 09:43:15.547] Texture 'Parallax_StockTextures/_Scatters/Models/Kerbin/gray' not found!

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Vaeliar

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For everyone having this problem with Kopernicus and Parallax 2.0: 

Failed to load Body: Squad/Moho: Value cannot be null.

Don't use CKAN. Download and install Parallax manually from GitHub. The CKAN build seems to be broken as of right now.

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On 10/22/2022 at 9:00 AM, JavaSaBr said:

But I have several graphics issues with shadows on this mod on linux machine (nvidia 3070 with opengp 4.6) and some error in KSP.log

Thanks for reporting this. Sadly, there's not a huge amount I can do with Linux support at the moment. There are a bunch of limitations on OpenGL and it handles shaders a little differently. I still need to do a lot of research into why this happens, so I can't guarantee a fix soon

2 hours ago, Vaeliar said:

Don't use CKAN. Download and install Parallax manually from GitHub. The CKAN build seems to be broken as of right now.

Are you making sure you download all three files? Parallax Stock Textures, Parallax Scatter Textures and Parallax (Core)? Their names might vary on CKAN

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1 hour ago, Gameslinx said:

Thanks for reporting this. Sadly, there's not a huge amount I can do with Linux support at the moment. There are a bunch of limitations on OpenGL and it handles shaders a little differently. I still need to do a lot of research into why this happens, so I can't guarantee a fix soon

Are you making sure you download all three files? Parallax Stock Textures, Parallax Scatter Textures and Parallax (Core)? Their names might vary on CKAN

Yes. Parallax, Parallax Stock Textures, and Scatter Textures. With Kopernicus v139. Tried everything, only manually installing the core finally helped.

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I compared both Parallax files and they seem to be the same. Maybe CKAN installs it incorrectly? I've tried to reproduce it on a clean game installation with only Parallax + Textures, Kopernicus, scatterer and ModuleManager and the issue persists. If I remove the Parallax folder and replace it manually then it works. Weird stuff.

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Congrats on getting v2.0 out! If I wasn't burnt out or annoyed with this wretched, ill-begotten spaghetti mound of a game I'd have gone ham with this in Strange New Worlds. An alternative to LandControl and its laggy tyranny is more than welcome. The stock package manages to make the stock system look intriguing which is a laudable feat. Nicely done.

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7 minutes ago, Zaffre said:

The stock package manages to make the stock system look intriguing which is a laudable feat

And it would be able to look so much better if I was any better at modelling and texturing :valsad:

 

also what on earth is this emoji :valawe:lmao

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49 minutes ago, Gameslinx said:

And it would be able to look so much better if I was any better at modelling and texturing :valsad:

 

also what on earth is this emoji :valawe:lmao

It's more than fine as it is! Going further would be unnecessary, though I totally understand the commitment to vision. I was unfortunately not able to reach completely what I wanted with my own project. Sometimes you've  got to know when to hold and when to fold, even if begrudgingly.

Mmm. The 'new' kerbal emojis feel awkward. Renders have never been prime material for emoticons. The 90s and 00s taught us that.

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