Post Patch - Anyone seeing weird behavior of Spaceplane Control Surfaces?

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

I made a multi-wing plane - using a short wing segment between the main body and a run of cylindrical fuel cans, engines and intakes, with the main wings attached to those.  Body-wing-external engine assembly-wing.

On loading to the runway - whenever I hit the S or D key - the inside short wing segment control surfaces went the opposite direction of the longer main wing surfaces.  Press S - the inside went up and the outside went down.  Press D - the opposite happens.

Anyone else seeing this?

Also - is there a way to invert control authority in VAB?  If so, I can't find it.

[Razor235]

There should be a "invert controls" button in the part manager window.

 

I assume you're doing an SR-71-style thing?  I have this issue with my mockup too,

but not with this other SU-30SM mockup, which also has a compound wing (I reenabled the pitch controls for this.

 

 

I wonder if it has to do with attaching to the nacelles causing symmetry to mess up and flip it upside down? 

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

18 minutes ago, Razor235 said:

There should be a "invert controls" button in the part manager window.

 

I assume you're doing an SR-71-style thing?  I have this issue with my mockup too,

but not with this other SU-30SM mockup, which also has a compound wing (I reenabled the pitch controls for this.

 

 

I wonder if it has to do with attaching to the nacelles causing symmetry to mess up and flip it upside down? 

That top picture is EXACTLY what I tried to describe.  My game froze and I had to restart and rebuild the plane... the problem did not repeat itself (different build).  But yeah, that plane you built is very similar to the one I built - and the wings did exactly what I wrote about.

20 minutes ago, Razor235 said:

There should be a "invert controls" button in the part manager window.

Not sure there is.  There also used to be an "Advanced Controls" section (IIRC) and I could not find it.

[Razor235]

Now I'm having a problem with plane #2 just disintegrating at the slightest touch now, which it didn't do before, did wing connections become absurdly weak?

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

Don't know.  I'm getting really weird behavior with planes - so not messing with them.  I did build one that flew well; only thing I noticed was the Panther engine seems weaker.

 

Oh - and loading into a plane makes the wings fall off.

When I saved, this was a whole plane.

Edited March 16, 2023 by JoeSchmuckatelli

[Razor235]

The hell?  Haven't had that one happen yet.  Engines are behaving really weird though, symmetrical Panthers don't match their afterburner nozzle diameter, some are burning after reload despite not being active at save, and then staging makes them shut off...

There aren't any cubic struts on there, right?  That can cause Blues Brothers planes in my experience.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Razor235

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

4 minutes ago, Razor235 said:

There aren't any cubic struts on there, right?  That can cause Blues Brothers planes in my experience.

Nope - this was a very simple, fast build trying to recreate the problem.