phillibetrus Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) While doing an Apollo style mun mission I loose Map data when launching from the mun. This happens consistently and specifically when I launch by staging with a coupling and an engine light simultaneously. I make a Mun lander with a decent and accent stage. for role play I leave my decent stage on Mun by shutting down the decent engine and setting staging to fire accent engine and coupling next while at full throttle. If I fire the coupling and then engine back to back it is fine. If I launch with decent stage and then separate it is fine. When sitting on Mun and I stage with both it fails. Map data fails to load in map mode and if I save and reload once in orbit it gives me a completely different orbit still with no map data. Edited June 2, 2023 by Anth12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, phillibetrus said: While doing an Apollo style mun mission I loose Map data when launching from the mun. This happens consistently and specifically when I launch by staging with a coupling and an engine light simultaneously. I make a Mun lander with a decent and accent stage. for role play I leave my decent stage on Mun by shutting down the decent engine and setting staging to fire accent engine and coupling next while at full throttle. If I fire the coupling and then engine back to back it is fine. If I launch with decent stage and then separate it is fine. When sitting on Mun and I stage with both it fails. Map data fails to load in map mode and if I save and reload once in orbit it gives me a completely different orbit still with no map data. So you are decoupling off a landed stage? Edited April 25, 2023 by Anth12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillibetrus Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, Anth12 said: So you are decoupling off a landed stage? yes. sitting on the surface I have a bottom stage with landing gears and the engine turned off. There is a decoupler with an engine for the upper stage on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow71 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, phillibetrus said: While doing an Apollo style mun mission I loose Map data when launching from the mun. This happens consistently and specifically when I launch by staging with a coupling and an engine light simultaneously. I make a Mun lander with a decent and accent stage. for role play I leave my decent stage on Mun by shutting down the decent engine and setting staging to fire accent engine and coupling next while at full throttle. If I fire the coupling and then engine back to back it is fine. If I launch with decent stage and then separate it is fine. When sitting on Mun and I stage with both it fails. Map data fails to load in map mode and if I save and reload once in orbit it gives me a completely different orbit still with no map data. What data isn't loading? Can you provide a screenshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillibetrus Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said: What data isn't loading? Can you provide a screenshot? In the map mode. no map lines for the current craft I am using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillibetrus Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said: What data isn't loading? Can you provide a screenshot? Trying to upload image but it won't let me. Here is a link to steam upload. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967282567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, phillibetrus said: Trying to upload image but it won't let me. Here is a link to steam upload. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967282567 AP is on there though. What happens when you get up higher? Unless AP is another bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillibetrus Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Anth12 said: AP is on there though. What happens when you get up higher? Unless AP is another bug. It doesn't give info when I hover over it and it just follows my craft around. I was nowhere near the AP according to the hud info when taking that screenshot. Either way it is clearly glitched out at this point anyway Edited April 26, 2023 by phillibetrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, phillibetrus said: It doesn't give info when I hover over it and it just follows my craft around. I was nowhere near the AP according to the hud info when taking that screenshot. Either way it is clearly glitched out at this point anyway Ahh. Yeah different bug. I have experienced that one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzelrad Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 After a bit of testing, the cause of this glitch is decoupling while in a Landed state. The game is not recognizing that your vessel has left the ground when you decouple. While your vessel is considered Landed, no trajectory line shows up. It needs to switch to Suborbital for the trajectory to appear again. In order to trigger that, your vessel must touch terrain momentarily. It is sufficient to simply slide off of the descent stage and touch down for a fraction of a second. Alternatively, fire up the descent stage just enough to get above the ground, then decouple. From my attempts, staging order isn't making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wetzelrad said: After a bit of testing, the cause of this glitch is decoupling while in a Landed state. The game is not recognizing that your vessel has left the ground when you decouple. While your vessel is considered Landed, no trajectory line shows up. It needs to switch to Suborbital for the trajectory to appear again. In order to trigger that, your vessel must touch terrain momentarily. It is sufficient to simply slide off of the descent stage and touch down for a fraction of a second. Alternatively, fire up the descent stage just enough to get above the ground, then decouple. From my attempts, staging order isn't making a difference. Sometimes KSP1 has the same problem. Edited April 26, 2023 by Anth12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillibetrus Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Anth12 said: Sometimes KSP1 has the same problem. really? Because I do this kind of thing with landers all the time in KSP 1 and have never seen any issues. I also do not recall seeing my map data vanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, phillibetrus said: really? Because I do this kind of thing with landers all the time in KSP 1 and have never seen any issues. I also do not recall seeing my map data vanish. I personally had it happen in 1.7 when I created a rocket+pad that launched from the Eve ocean. I also saw it happening in one of the more recent updates (maybe 2 years ago) for a streamer called EJ_SA. KSP2 appears that it might be a little different. I hear the suborbital directions etc still happens verses KSP1 where it had no idea what do with a craft in the air but still landed at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillibetrus Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 That sounds more of a problem with launching from sea in KSP1. I admittedly have not tried that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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