Will a lander that has landed on the Mun and docked to a vessel provide the "Recovery of a vessel that has landed on the Mun" after recovering the vessel that the lander docked to?

[SM_2023]

I'm currently playing a science mode save, and I've geared up to do an Apollo-style mission to the Mun, complete with Munar lander and command/service module placed on top (using mods for the conical payload bay bit) and Saturn V look-alike (ok not really, I replaced the 1st stage w/ SRBs lol)

My question is this: if I undock the lander from the CSM (Command & Service Modules), land on the Mun, and dock with the CSM, will I get the science for recovering a vessel that's landed on the Mun if the only thing being recovered is the Command Module (CM)?

I will be collecting all the science from experiments into a container on the lander, then transferring the experiments to the CM using Lander-Tek's science containers, but will that transfer the "Vessel landed on the Mun" stat-thingy (not sure what to call it...)? Or will I need a piece of the actual lander to be on the recovered vessel for it to count?

[Superfluous J]

From what I can tell, no.

You need to have at least one command part (probe core, command module, cockpit) that was on a vessel that was landed on the Mun, recovered from landed at Kerbin, to get this science.

Science doesn't count. Kerbals don't count. the science CONTAINER doesn't count. It must be a command part.

If you're lucky, you brought a probe core to the surface and you can EVA Construct it onto your lander. If not, you're either having a fun ride home or you're getting that science on the next mission.

Edited May 12, 2023 by Superfluous J

[SM_2023]

2 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

From what I can tell, no.

You need to have at least one command part (probe core, command module, cockpit) that was on a vessel that was landed on the Mun, recovered from landed at Kerbin, to get this science.

Science doesn't count. Kerbals don't count. the science CONTAINER doesn't count. It must be a command part.

If you're lucky, you brought a probe core to the surface and you can EVA Construct it onto your lander. If not, you're either having a fun ride home or you're getting that science on the next mission.

hmmm.... ok, so I can stick a probe core onto the lander, then move the core onto the command module, then recover the command module + probe core that touched the Mun surface and that should count? Because if so, all I need to do is stick another probe core onto the ascent stage of my lander

[Superfluous J]

Yup. You can even do it "legit" by putting that probe core between 2 docking ports, and then when you dock your (lander + probe) to the orbiter, you undock so orbiter+probe come home leaving the lander in orbit.

One more trick, undock on landing BEFORE recovering, and then recover both vessels separately.

That way, you'll get science for a vessel that orbited AND science for a vessel that landed.

Edited May 12, 2023 by Superfluous J

[jimmymcgoochie]

As an aside to this conversation, landing on more than one celestial body with the same lander and then recovering it on Kerbin will only give you the science bonus from one, which I believe is the one with the highest science multiplier as when I brought back landers from a Grand Tour mission it always gave the science for a vessel landed on Eeloo when it had visited several other places including Tylo and Moho and also landed on other places after Eeloo.