BigFatStupidHead Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Snjo has a new custom plugin for making parts float on water; you may want to check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Labs Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 Have a dummy part in now. Looks kind of like a slug.Also, I have been posting here and here talking about underwater stuff.Snjo has a new custom plugin for making parts float on water; you may want to check that out.That is really neat... Thanks for letting me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatStupidHead Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 That is really neat... Thanks for letting me know!No problem. Collaberation is how we get the good stuff going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhnifong Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 No worries Hooligan I'm really grateful that you made that Launchpad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekan1k Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Have a dummy part in now. Looks kind of like a slug.Please make that into a side-mounted balloon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivaii Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This might be an old question due to the current talk of underwater, but how is lead envelope decided by the plugin? and can it be changed to a different envelope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinyPirate Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Awww, I'm sad my sexy Duna airship with KAS-deployable rover didn't make it in to the new post.. well, a few versions old now, my post I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Labs Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) No worries Hooligan I'm really grateful that you made that Launchpad!I'm glad the Extraplanetary Launchpad mod was made. This is pretty much what it was always intended for.Please make that into a side-mounted balloon!But...! It's just...! Sigh, ok. I might take some time to re-texture it with the Dodec's transparent skin first. My textures are always bad, but I need to have some standards.This might be an old question due to the current talk of underwater, but how is lead envelope decided by the plugin? and can it be changed to a different envelope?Every time an envelope's code runs it checks to see if there are any lead envelopes on the vessel. If not, it makes itself the lead envelope.Awww, I'm sad my sexy Duna airship with KAS-deployable rover didn't make it in to the new post.. well, a few versions old now, my post I guess! I'm glad that's fixed! That is an epic mission. I'm going to add an action shot section to the HL Airship wiki if someone doesn't beat me to it first. Edited August 7, 2013 by Hooligan Labs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The last version of Cirrus is a mite too big. Now DERP can't land at all because the envelopes get in the way too much.Not that it stopped me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivaii Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Every time an envelope's code runs it checks to see if there are any lead envelopes on the vessel. If not, it makes itself the lead envelope.So I can go into the .craft and edit that for the lead envelope? My airship I'm trying to fix has 5 envelopes, 4 being cirrus, one being a ray, and I want the ray to be the lead, but a cirrus always seems to take the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Labs Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Not that it stopped me. Such is the price of realism (or something like it)... your ship now floats on skyscrapers.So I can go into the .craft and edit that for the lead envelope? My airship I'm trying to fix has 5 envelopes, 4 being cirrus, one being a ray, and I want the ray to be the lead, but a cirrus always seems to take the spot.I think so, look for isLeadEnvelope. Set it to false for all the envelopes but the Ray, which would be true. It should be persistent so I think it will open with the save.Any particular reason why you are editing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm going to add an action shot section to the HL Airship wiki if someone doesn't beat me to it first.I would if I knew how! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Labs Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Not very good results with radial envelopes. I put together two types, and improved "slug" and a transparent one. Had to 8x their size to get any amount of decent lift. The result can barely hold itself up with some structure.Here are 4 "Pyramis" and 2 "Uncia" envelopes around a core, with structure. 40x scale multiplier.Unless people think this could really work somehow, I might abandon this until the submarine part is done at least.I would if I knew how!Something like Contribute - Add Page. I've been learning it by going through their help pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Well then if I have your OK I may try and add a 'Design Gallery' page for your wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzschwagel Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) a thought on that, could be mounted to said future submarine for quick ascent. or used as a type of buoy...Edit: And I just noticed the post with the sub pics with a mounted "slug," my situational awareness is awesome, lol, but maybe the buoy idea could be used, possibly with a blinking light like that aviation lights mod, maybe solar panel attachment spots, a battery underneath, maybe KAS for an anchor. it may not lift off the ground, but it probably won't sink in the water. also, what about a floating launch pad? there is lots of stuff that can be done with smaller air bags, you don't need the Good Year blimp to hold a small buoy above water... Edited August 8, 2013 by Benzschwagel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzschwagel Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 with a space for KSP version and any mods used to make the craft and the ability to add links to .craft files for those of us who are not creatively inclined. Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 with a space for KSP version and any mods used to make the craft and the ability to add links to .craft files for those of us who are not creatively inclined. Please?I'll see what I can do. First to get the OK from the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzschwagel Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 hehe, wow, that was quick, I was expecting to wait til tomorrow for a reply, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOCOUR Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I asked this long time ago, and never seen any answer, so ill ask again. Would you consider making nosecones and tailpieces for the old envelopes? Ciruss and those two small deployable envelopes are nice and all, but i still like the original type most, and with proper nosecone, and tailpiece, the will be just perfect, and there will be no need for any other kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivaii Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I think so, look for isLeadEnvelope. Set it to false for all the envelopes but the Ray, which would be true. It should be persistent so I think it will open with the save.Any particular reason why you are editing this?Was getting ticked that it was picking an envelope on the far corner to use as lead, rather then the one centered over CoM (when launched, loaded is another story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatStupidHead Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Hey Hooligan, I'm sure you're keeping an eye on the Firespitter thread now, but I just want to draw you attention to this post; it sounds very interesting. Edited August 8, 2013 by BigFatStupidHead Fixed link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Labs Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Well then if I have your OK I may try and add a 'Design Gallery' page for your wiki.It's a wiki! Anyone can add or edit pages. I have the ability to roll back if someone decides this commons deserves a tragedy... Anyway, no permission needed.a thought on that, could be mounted to said future submarine for quick ascent. or used as a type of buoy...The goal will be to make universal ballast tanks that can be attached to anything. They will float nice and can be made to hold still for saving launching etc, above or underwater. Buoys and deep water mining operations are included in my goals.I asked this long time ago, and never seen any answer, so ill ask again. Would you consider making nosecones and tailpieces for the old envelopes? Ciruss and those two small deployable envelopes are nice and all, but i still like the original type most, and with proper nosecone, and tailpiece, the will be just perfect, and there will be no need for any other kind.Ok. I was also thinking that it is about time.Hey Hooligan, I'm sure you're keeping an eye on the Firespitter thread now, but I just want to draw you attention to this post; it sounds very interesting.Thanks! I am trying to read it every day now, even if I don't have anything to yet say! And now I've been made aware of that KerbTown thing too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatStupidHead Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Kerbtown looks very promising. I look forward to navigating my airships through the floating islands of Jool's northern pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) It's a wiki! Anyone can add or edit pages. I have the ability to roll back if someone decides this commons deserves a tragedy... Anyway, no permission needed.Sweet! I'll get to editing right away!Gallery page is up and has first image on it. Edited August 8, 2013 by JewelShisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 If anybody has an airship design they would like to have on the wiki just send me a link to it with the list of mods used to make it and I'll put it up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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