MDBenson Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think if BobCat does a SLS/Ares V rocket you will get your attachable 5-segment SRB as it will be used on that rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmi Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Isn't SRB in Ares I supposed to be gimballed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 It is. The gimbal range is just so pathetic that you don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Isn't SRB in Ares I supposed to be gimballed?The space shuttle SRBs were and to fly exclusively through the first stage without it would be tricky. I don't know for sure but the commonality of design suggests yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 If it is the same as the Shuttle SRB thrust vector control it should be 8 drgrees, which isn't a lot, certainly when viewed from a long distance like in KSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimovski Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 8* is a bit much really, you dont even need 2!0.5* should do in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I know it's academic but a contact at NASA KSC confirms Ares I-X had TVC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Is anyone else having trouble with the Orion parachutes deploying on launch, regardless of staging ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimer4 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I can't find the post of what your schedule was for the American pack was, but I was wondering if you were planning on doing a Saturn V at any point for it? The Apollo program was my favourite of any of the space programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCOLE360 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I can't find the post of what your schedule was for the American pack was, but I was wondering if you were planning on doing a Saturn V at any point for it? The Apollo program was my favourite of any of the space programsHis steps are1. Ares I and Orion2. Ares V and Altair3. Duna/Mars Landers?4. Land Equipment?I remember Orion and Altair for sure, but not 100% sure in the next two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finkmac Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Maybe that will stop it falling over in gravity turns Using MechJeb 1.9.8 fixed that for me... Kinda... MechJeb 1.9.8 starts it's gravity turn at 10 km, the SRB has more fuel left, it starts turning WAY too fast... and then runs out of fuel, leaving the J2-X engine to correct the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimer4 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Ok, cheers WCOLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver4470 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Not to interrupt the Orion discussion -- but I had the same "decides to do somersaults" issue with the Kliper/Soyuz combo while using MechJeb. I think the problem is actually pretty straightforward: KSP uses both gimbal and aerodynamic surfaces to control a rocket in flight. What's happening with the Kliper, I think, is that if the gravity turn takes place in the thicker atmosphere (i.e. below 25km), the Kliper wings actually overwhelm the stack's ability to gimbal-control its flight. Solution: set MechJeb's ascent profile to have the gravity turn take place higher in the atmosphere. I haven't tested this yet... but it should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressorblue Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Not to interrupt the Orion discussion -- but I had the same "decides to do somersaults" issue with the Kliper/Soyuz combo while using MechJeb. I think the problem is actually pretty straightforward: KSP uses both gimbal and aerodynamic surfaces to control a rocket in flight. What's happening with the Kliper, I think, is that if the gravity turn takes place in the thicker atmosphere (i.e. below 25km), the Kliper wings actually overwhelm the stack's ability to gimbal-control its flight. Solution: set MechJeb's ascent profile to have the gravity turn take place higher in the atmosphere. I haven't tested this yet... but it should work.Also, adding fins to the rockets lower stages (to give it more aero forces to "fight back") or see of the control surfaces on the Kliper can be locked, possibly by assigning them to a toggle key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 BobCat, could you make this...thing as part of your American Pack?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOnlAUpYWoc&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netris Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I use mechjeb not a crutch but because these systems are really automated in almost every regard and I seek to mirror that. I can get Kliper to orbit just fine on me own...I'd just rather not...it steals some of the magic. I know that's the reverse mentality around here but I have no romanticised feelings for manually accomplishing anything in KSP...Don't be that categorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver4470 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 BobCat, could you make this...thing as part of your American Pack?(video snip)That concept was one of the ideas thrown around in the early stages of Constellation planning for the heavy-lift launcher option. It was rejected in favor of the in-line shuttle-derived concept that became the Ares V, which BobCat is going to make. So I think the answer is probably no; he's going with the option the Constellation program picked. Having said that..... it would be kinda sorta awesome if we someday got a side-mounted cargo carrier for the Energia, so that it could be used without the Buran as a heavy lifter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobCat Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 BobCat, could you make this...thing as part of your American Pack?No. Asked modders who made Shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm pretty sure you could jury-rig the thing once CSS is out. No dedicated model though, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobCat Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Orion WIP IVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekan1k Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 ...Bobcat, that looks done already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal01 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 This is my favorite thread on the entire forum, hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 That IVA is looking fantastic, BobCat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal01 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Can you include a fully assembled Mir station craft in the next update for those of us who are too lazy to send it up in its seperate modules, it be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCOLE360 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Can you include a fully assembled Mir station craft in the next update for those of us who are too lazy to send it up in its seperate modules, it be great.There are instructions for it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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