LLL - Lack Luster Labs - Development Thread

[Vrana]

For some reason my tracks don't work. How did you get yours working?

I dont think i did anything with that mod. It worked out of the box. Using this version.

[Gristle]

Just same as with the stock parts

.../QUOTE]

Did you activate the hatch?

[Lack]

I don't know if this is a known issue or not, but if you load Kerbals into any of the new rovers in the SPH, you get a message that the doors are block when you try to get them out.

Just wanted to let you know.

Yeah, I couldn't get it to work properly, I mentioned it when I released it but that was a quite a few pages back.

@Mekanik,

Hmm, wasn't able to replicate it myself.

@SgtBlufor,

In the LLL shot you're putting it on a command module, as I said before, it won't work on those. Try it on a part like the 2x1 hull (and remember to right-click the hatch and activate it).

@Sapphire,

Couldn't replicate that one. The hud disappearing and null-ref is normally indicative of a missing IVA though,

Try deleting:

INTERNAL
{
  name = crewCabinInternals
}

from the config.

[SergeantBlueforce]

Just same as with the stock parts

.../QUOTE]

Did you activate the hatch?

Yes I did....

[SergeantBlueforce]

Yeah, I couldn't get it to work properly, I mentioned it when I released it but that was a quite a few pages back.

@Mekanik,

Hmm, wasn't able to replicate it myself.

@SgtBlufor,

In the LLL shot you're putting it on a command module, as I said before, it won't work on those. Try it on a part like the 2x1 hull (and remember to right-click the hatch and activate it).

@Sapphire,

Couldn't replicate that one. The hud disappearing and null-ref is normally indicative of a missing IVA though,

Try deleting:

INTERNAL
{
  name = crewCabinInternals
}

from the config.

Oh..... , I didn't know that LLL hull parts had crew capacity! Not intending to be offensive, but it might help if you listed crew capacity on the part details.

Also, what conifg file(s) do I edit to add other parts as compatible?

[Lack]

Oh..... , I didn't know that LLL hull parts had crew capacity! Not intending to be offensive, but it might help if you listed crew capacity on the part details.

Also, what conifg file(s) do I edit to add other parts as compatible?

Yes, probably should, really. I make this primarily for my own use, so I have a slight to forget that other people aren't psychic, haven't read through a 100 pages of thread and probably don't do what I do and immediately root through a mod's cfgs when they install it. Shame it doesn't come up automatically in the VAB, it's defined in the .cfg. It'll also come up if you right click a part with Vanguard installed.

Re: other parts, I assume you mean things like Squad's hitch-hiker container

That's at:

{KSP_root}/GameData/Squad/Command/crewCabin/part.cfg

Open it up in a plain-text editor (notepad'll do. Although I prefer Notepad++) and add

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleKrCrewCompartment
}

to it. Actually, I wonder if it would work on the command pods; I seem to recall having issues with it before, but it's been a long time since I added the Vanguard stuff and I always have trouble remembering anything that happened before the last 6 months.

EDIT:

Okay, if you add it to a command pod and enter through a radial hatch, you'll have to vessel switch away and back to get the IVA portrait to pop up again in the corner. But that doesn't seem too much of an issue.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Lack

[SergeantBlueforce]

If I just want the RT2 config file from 10.7 will it work?

Also do you have any plans for more IVAs, like for the interior of parts with crew capacity, instead of just using the hitchhiker IVA.

Edited December 8, 2013 by SergeantBlueforce

[put_usernamehere]

Lack,

do the LLL extras work with .22?

[ickli]

Anything new being worked on?

[sharpspoonful]

It hasn't e in been two weeks. Chill out dudes.

[SergeantBlueforce]

Also a reduced texture pack would appreciated, as this mod is now preventing me from playing the game with my other mods, even with rbray's compressor script. (see signature)

[Lack]

Nothing new at the moment, been a bit busy (this is first time I've been home in about 3 days, except to grab some fresh clothes, so currently running on coffee and polo mints). Only LLL from the past few weeks was some bug fixes for what SgtBlufor pointed out. I was playing around with the Real Solar System configs the other week, turned Eve into a kerbal version of Kepler-7b. Wish I had a bit more time to play with Krag's work as well, what NovaSil is doing looks cool and I'd like in, as it were.

And I made this a few weeks ago, thought it looked cool.

Also,

Have you tried turning the texture size down to half in the options, I find that works pretty well. Texture reduction mod is do-able but may take time, my version of photoshop gets pretty pissy over alpha-channels so they'd have to all be re-exported from Unity (although I can think of a way I might be able to do it all at once).

Edit: Actually, saying that. I did knock together a little pseudo LLL RCS block that's quite useful.

Here's the config, I put it in LLL/Parts/Structural/LLL2x1to2-5mNew/RCS.cfg

PART
{
name = LLLRCS1
module = Part
author = Lack
MODEL
{
	model = LLL/Parts/Structural/LLL2x1to2-5mNew/Weight
	scale = 0.255, 0.5, 0.405
   	rotation = 0, 90, 0
}
MODEL
{
	model = Squad/Parts/Utility/RCS block/model
	rotation = 0 , 90 , -90
}
MODEL
{
	model = Squad/Parts/Utility/linearRCS/model
	rotation = 0 , 90 , 0
	position = 0 , 0.02 , 0
}
scale = 1
rescaleFactor = 1
node_attach = 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, -1, 0
TechRequired = fuelSystems
entryCost = 0
cost = 20
category = Control
subcategory = 0
title = LLL - RCS Block
manufacturer = Lack Luster Labs
description = What do you mean I just stuck some stock RCS parts away, I would never do that. Honest guv.
attachRules = 1,1,1,1,0
stackSymmetry = 1

mass = 0.05
dragModelType = default
maximum_drag = 0.001
minimum_drag = 0.001
angularDrag = 2
crashTolerance = 15
maxTemp = 3600

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleRCS
	thrusterTransformName = RCSthruster
	thrusterPower = 1
	resourceName = MonoPropellant
	atmosphereCurve
 	{
   	 key = 0 260
  	 key = 1 100
 	}
}

}

Edited December 10, 2013 by Lack

[SergeantBlueforce]

As in preventing I mean crashes on startup, and the plugin I use is far more effective than half-res.

EDIT Crisis averted.

Edited December 15, 2013 by SergeantBlueforce

[Lack]

As in preventing I mean crashes on startup, and the plugin I use is far more effective than half-res.

Ah. And yes, I know rbray's work, I helped out with the Eve and Jool textures for clouds and lights mod. There's a good reason AMRM is recommended and linked to in the LLL FAQ, it's because he's damn good at what he does.

[Taki117]

How do I tell what version I have? Basically, when did the last update come out?

[Lack]

How do I tell what version I have? Basically, when did the last update come out?

If you aren't sure, just delete the folders and latest new copy. As for when they were released.

10.7 was: 2013-12-02 18:34:26

and 10.6 was: 2013-10-23 14:45:02

and going all the way back to 0.09.9: 2013-05-28 14:15:41

F all idea what time-zone though (Mediafire tells you when they were uploaded).

[Deathsoul097]

wait, is 10.7 out of dev now?

[Lack]

Well, it's still technically an experimental, but there's nowt much wrong with it.

[Taki117]

On an unrelated note, is it possible to mirror the flag onto both sides of the command pods?

[MaxP]

Shirt, I'm looking on thread's title and waiting, while 10.7 is ready for download ))

Is there "4x2 to round"-adapter coming? I really like new nuclear engine ))

Edited December 11, 2013 by MaxP

[Deathsoul097]

Are the LLL panels compatible with KAS for construction?

[NelsonIñigo]

They can give me the link of unload, but not of adFl.y, please. Thank you

[Lack]

@Taki, it's possible, although it ends up looking a bit silly.

@MaxP, should be possible to make that right now. Pretty sure there's a 4x2 to 2x2 adaptor in there, and then a 2x2 to 2.5m. If not then I have the configs for them.

@Deathsoul, yep. They certainly are.

@Neslon, What adFl.y?

Playing around with Real Solar System:

http://imgur.com/a/PGbtu

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Edited December 13, 2013 by Lack

[Deathsoul097]

Lack, I am loving this pack, and everything in it. I have one question however: Are we ever going to get LLL wings, 1x3, 2x3, 1x4, 3x4 hulls?(Just out of curiosity, I'm not trying to charge in here and tell you to make them, I'm just want to find out.) (Also, just so you know, in testing my save for building a base on duna, I noticed that the new rail landing legs (for the drop down bay) are actually slightly shorter than the bay when deployed. Also, when seats are placed on the new rover bodies (Which are freaking awesome, BTW) they tend to wobble around a bit when a kerbal gets in and the rover hits a bump or is under acceleration.)

Now to turn the Salvage Pod into a rover...

[Lack]

Lack, I am loving this pack, and everything in it. I have one question however: Are we ever going to get LLL wings, 1x3, 2x3, 1x4, 3x4 hulls?(Just out of curiosity, I'm not trying to charge in here and tell you to make them, I'm just want to find out.) (Also, just so you know, in testing my save for building a base on duna, I noticed that the new rail landing legs (for the drop down bay) are actually slightly shorter than the bay when deployed. Also, when seats are placed on the new rover bodies (Which are freaking awesome, BTW) they tend to wobble around a bit when a kerbal gets in and the rover hits a bump or is under acceleration.)

Now to turn the Salvage Pod into a rover...

No plans for anything like that, there's about 200 parts as it is. At least not for general release, but if I ever find the need for them I may end up doing something like that.

The legs are exactly the same length as the bay, the apparent difference is due to size of the collision mesh and how KSP/Unity handles it's collision with the ground (at least I think that's the reason, visually they're the same length anyway).

Try going to the external seat's config file and changing

breakingForce = 20
breakingTorque = 20

to something considerably higher, see if that works.