Bermuda Triangle might be natural

[That guy who builds stuff]

Over the last 25 years alone more than 75 airplanes and a thousand yachts and commercial ships with their passengers and crews disappeared without trace. I'm not a big believer in these sorts of things, but I'm not religious and have a fairly open mind when it comes to unexplained mysteries, but that is one hell of a list of people to vanish into thin air. No black boxes, no wreckage found.

There's your statistical significance.

Do you have any idea how many people travel over that area every day? A ****-ton. That's how many. 25 years? That's 8900 ****-tons of people.

[Devo]

Do you have any idea how many people travel over that area every day? A ****-ton. That's how many. 25 years? That's 8900 ****-tons of people.

Just because it's not happening anymore, doesn't mean it never happened

[Nibb31]

Over the last 25 years alone more than 75 airplanes and a thousand yachts and commercial ships with their passengers and crews disappeared without trace. I'm not a big believer in these sorts of things, but I'm not religious and have a fairly open mind when it comes to unexplained mysteries, but that is one hell of a list of people to vanish into thin air. No black boxes, no wreckage found.

There's your statistical significance.

Sources please. Pulling numbers out of thin air doesn't have much statistical significance you know.

Most of the incidents that were attributed to the mysterious causes have been debunked BTW. Some of them never happened, others were misreported, others happened in other locations, and others were easily explained accidents.

It is one of the most crowded traffic areas in the World. There are literally hundreds of giant cruise ships, container ships, airliners, that travel through the area every day. Statistically, it is actually safer than other areas in the World.

[ZedNova]

It's because Atlantis is right underneath the Bermuda triangle.

Only joking

[NASAFanboy]

Over the last 25 years alone more than 75 airplanes and a thousand yachts and commercial ships with their passengers and crews disappeared without trace. I'm not a big believer in these sorts of things, but I'm not religious and have a fairly open mind when it comes to unexplained mysteries, but that is one hell of a list of people to vanish into thin air. No black boxes, no wreckage found.

There's your statistical significance.

May I remind you the only reason this is famous is because if the group of bombers that vanished. And did you know we have recoevred one if their wrecks, and this has happened many times in other areas of the world.

[Person012345]

Larry Kusche

Lawrence David Kusche, a research librarian from Arizona State University and author of The Bermuda Triangle Mystery: Solved (1975)[15] argued that many claims of Gaddis and subsequent writers were often exaggerated, dubious or unverifiable. Kusche's research revealed a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies between Berlitz's accounts and statements from eyewitnesses, participants, and others involved in the initial incidents. Kusche noted cases where pertinent information went unreported, such as the disappearance of round-the-world yachtsman Donald Crowhurst, which Berlitz had presented as a mystery, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Another example was the ore-carrier recounted by Berlitz as lost without trace three days out of an Atlantic port when it had been lost three days out of a port with the same name in the Pacific Ocean. Kusche also argued that a large percentage of the incidents that sparked allegations of the Triangle's mysterious influence actually occurred well outside it. Often his research was simple: he would review period newspapers of the dates of reported incidents and find reports on possibly relevant events like unusual weather, that were never mentioned in the disappearance stories.

Kusche concluded that:

The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.

In an area frequented by tropical storms, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious;

Furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms or even represent the disappearance as having happened in calm conditions when meteorological records clearly contradict this.

The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat's disappearance, for example, would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not have been.

Some disappearances had, in fact, never happened. One plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937 off Daytona Beach, Florida, in front of hundreds of witnesses; a check of the local papers revealed nothing.

The legend of the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery, perpetuated by writers who either purposely or unknowingly made use of misconceptions, faulty reasoning, and sensationalism.[15]

'Nuff said.

[Ben Gibbins]

the bermuda triangle is just extremely bad weather if they was one of the coast of japan it would be all over the news and i haven't heard anything about it

[tommygunyeah]

The magnetic poles used to switch from what we think is every 13,000 years each time something generally happened with it. Using dates from tablets and findings from mostly Egypt I think they found that the first one recorded (by "Thoth") happened about the same time that "Atlantis" sunk. Obviously, these are only dates in ancient tablets it's no more believable than God but yeah since though they have been gradually happening more frequent and I believe either there was or is supposed to be one soon as we come out of a 13,000 cycle. (But yeah, as I said before, no more believable than the bible so take caution)

A lot of strange things are said to happen when poles shift so you could well be right, I have my opinions on what I believe the Bermuda Triangle to be but that's not for now

[GoodGuy]

Well if bad goes to worse then we can always tell the US navy to start building battleships and get random movie stars to touch random pieces of alien ships so we can blow them up. /sarcasm

[Technical Ben]

To expand on this: Why does anyone believe the Bermuda Triangle has any statistical significance? For me, I see no reason to think the Bermuda Triangle is significant at all. I don't think it's special in any way.

It's a particularity difficult to navigate area. If it's more difficult than anywhere else I have no idea though.

[edit]

Yeah, as others have said, does not appear more difficult than anywhere else, it's just more people talk about it.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Technical Ben

[Dr. Muttonstache]

The Dragon's Triangle (off the coast of Japan) is on the same line of latitude as The Bremuda Triangle, is something to note.

Could be alien bases, yo. We barely know anything about the deep ocean, makes sense if you were going to build a base on an alien world, and you wanted to stay hidden, you'd put it underneath some serious waves. There are strange places all over the world with magnetic anomalies, like that place in mexico, where that missile got dragged to.

[Devo]

Lol, not alot of point in this thread when so many refuse to believe it even might be true. Like Doug Quaid, open your mind

[Kerbface]

Lol, not alot of point in this thread when so many refuse to believe it even might be true. Like Doug Quaid, open your mind

Tim Minchin wrote a song once called "If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."

That's not to say the thought shouldn't be entertained, but once you see that the evidence is exaggerated or simply made up and that the place really has no remarkable qualities, what's the point in speculating what crazy scifi ideas might cause this nonexistant anomaly?

[Nibb31]

Lol, not alot of point in this thread when so many refuse to believe it even might be true. Like Doug Quaid, open your mind

There's a difference between opening your mind and being gullible. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. In this case, there is no evidence at all, so it isn't even a matter of belief. It's pure fantasy.

People like these fantasy stories because they want them to be true. They make life more interesting and give you a sense of importance because you think you know something that most people don't.

[lump]

Its like the Apollo people who think it was faked and call us "non-believers" sheep and say to "open our minds". I have no problem in you believing in these fables, but when you give false evidence, deny OUR arguments and then call US the sheep and expect us to listen to you, this is the science labs and do you know what science needs? EVIDENCE! evidence that can be backed up and once disproved will not be used again, I'm all open to these myths e.c.t. but only if you can actually prove something, science is about debate as well, so if you really want to prove your Bermuda triangle myth you must produce evidence to back your points in one post, and then we can debunk or otherwise your posts, if any actual reasons and evidence remain, you may have a point.

[GalaxiesFinestToday]

Well we all have different theories, and read up on the magnetic stone park that some guy built that causes magnetic waves and reacts with the sea water near the park.

[Nicbudd]

The Bermuda triangle does not exist.

Also it haas the same amount of plane crashes as anywhere else

[Enigma179]

Bermuda triangle is a terrorist plot it's all to do with 9/11 and the earth is flat and time is a cube timecube time is four dimensional and the aliens are here to rescue us.

Seriously though anything in favour of the bermuda triangle actually having a real influence is purely anecdotal evidence.

[Kerbface]

Well we all have different theories, and read up on the magnetic stone park that some guy built that causes magnetic waves and reacts with the sea water near the park.

Theories on what? The unremarkable nature of the Bermuda Triangle region? Gee, I wonder what could have caused it to be so unremarkable considering all the aliens, wormholes and Elder gods trying to skew the statistics. There's got to be SOMETHING keeping the dissapearances and crashes at an expected level for the amount of traffic it gets.

[Seret]

Magnetic anomalies in the Atlantic would be well known. Magnetic anomaly detectors are routinely used by ASW aircraft to detect submarines. Given that Bermuda is right in NATO's back yard and they've been scouring the area for decades I'd say they have a pretty good grip on the magnetic properties of the north Atlantic.

There is no Bermuda Triangle. It's just made up.

[Kerbface]

There is no Bermuda Triangle. It's just made up.

Well there is a Bermuda triangle, it's a triangular region of ocean between Bermuda, Florida and Puerto Rico. It just doesn't have any crazy supernatural or paranormal activity going on in it.

[magnemoe]

Well there is a Bermuda triangle, it's a triangular region of ocean between Bermuda, Florida and Puerto Rico. It just doesn't have any crazy supernatural or paranormal activity going on in it.

High chance its nothing special either, its an high trafic area for both ships and planes so you will get plenty of accidents, few other sea areas has this density outside of coastal areas.

[stallion x1]

*groans* yes ships have gone missing "oh but they have never been found" well the Bermuda triangle covers between 500,000 square miles to 1.5 million square miles just think about how big those numbers are the chance of finding anything in there is a million to 1

[Moon Goddess]

That this thread even exists makes me embarrassed for my fellow humans.

When I was a kid I believe in this stuff, I believed in all of it, I wanted to know more... so i studied and I read and I read and I read. The more of it I saw the more inconsistencies I saw. The more they told me how true it was the less believable it became.

Please, if you do believe that anything special about the Bermuda Triangle exists, all I ask you do to is study it yourself.

[Lanfranc]

I have no idea why people keep talking about "magnets" and "aliens" when it is obvious that the Bermuda Triangle is located directly opposite* the location of R'lyeh in the South Pacific, where, of course, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming. Clearly the Triangle is caused by all the Chtulhu-stuff (note: technical term) percolating through the Earth to the other side.

[/fhtagn]

* – Well, kinda.