Project BABYLON

[Tada]

And now sir you got my full atention! A reusable UAV that can scout perimeter around the base! I have nice working Laythe dropship all setup with ascent stage that can handle dropping refueling rovers

[zekes]

Working out kinks.....

[Tada]

Thats a huge rover

Well, first we must get firm grip of Laythe orbit and the we will begin our surface operations.

Orbit of Laythe is becoming pretty crowded these days, I wake up every night with nigthmares that we´ll run into KSS Spirit of Kerbin carrier or some other ships...

[zekes]

aand we have sucessful reconnection! so well iron out a few minor bugs and post it for your disposal later....

Also the refueling rover itself can be refueled, or be used as a tow for the plane.

Edited May 4, 2013 by zekes

[Werwolf]

Err, why do you need all the heavy fighters and whatnot? theres nothing to shoot at... seems like a lot of wasted effort on those....

[Tada]

zekes: Well, put your engineers on getting all this stuff too exact pin-point location on Laythe

Werwolf: Space has changed, it is no longer this safe backyard it used to be. Just few day ago we had an emergency aboard "Horizon" station - unknown large ship was on intercept course with station and wasn´t respondig to any calls. So a "Hornet MkII Mod.1" (ex-HDF Shade MkII Mod.1 boought from Hanland Corp.) was dispached to neutralize the potential threat. Security of our personel is most important to us at Project BABYLON! And well, to be brutaly honest - military ships are fun and I want to provide as much fun and excitement to all who downloads the save file with some mission I or my crew will set up - for example "Threat from Tylo" And it is not much of a wasted effort, almost all fighters I use are already aviable, just that small cruiser was newly developed.

[Werwolf]

Gotcha. That is a pretty neat fighter design, love the manual "missiles"

[zekes]

i use the same type of rocket, but mine aren't spin stabilized.

[Octobomb]

How much dV is laythe nowadays? I'm guessing about 2.5k.

[Tada]

Werfolf: It is Macey Deans Shade MkII... I love it! It looks badass and packs enough dV to get to Mün (liquid fuel only) not counting ion-drive. it has it flaws, but I love it´s aesthetics! In future I´ll use it with variety of ammunition - smart missile by brobel is my favorit right now!

zekes: First version was 4 sepratrons with no spin, worked, but just so so... But this 6 sepratron version with nosecone (impact resistance 40) makes one solid penetrator.

Also it is light enough to be used on small ship like my "Wasp" class interceptor - no need for action groups, you just make it fire trough staging And if you put docking port instead of nosecone you can reload them using small astrodroid

Octobomb: Around 3000 should be enough - my hive prototype has 3600 units of liquid fuel and 2 nuclear engines and it was Laythe capable when flown by someone who knows how

Edited May 5, 2013 by Tada

[zekes]

i use little 2 separation rockets, no nosecone, but they lack penetration.

[Tada]

Even one of these can leave battlecruiser cracked like a nut... I haven´t tested them yet on KSS Spirit of Kerbin carrier like ship.

[Octobomb]

Thanks: I have two new ideas now - SO BOW DOWN TO MY ARTWORK! 1. The Bee's teeny weeny little bro - meet the 'Grub'. Literally a probe core, radial RCS tank and a docking port. Used for delicate, presice operations, usually on the same ship. Bee is for multi-ship grunt work or longer range work. Macey-inspired, as usual.

2. Rename the 'Hive' classes 'Queens' and the ammo motherships 'Hives'

Sound ok?

[Tada]

Can be "Yeah, something like "Grub" was needed! I used it on "Hive proto"

I´m so looking forward to your additions

Go ahead and rename them, if that will make more sense

[Octobomb]

Why thank you ;D! I think that for operations involving large loads, long hauls, capship missiles or anything with a large docking port should be left to the bees, so the transfer to the Hive/Mothership and to the station will be done by Bees, but the reloading proper would be done by Grubs. I'm still pondering the design of 'Hive' - should it have the ammo radially mounted like the mothership or stacked in front of it? Should it serve as a sort of mini station for quick reloads (it would have all the needed kit)? Amongst other, pressing questions. Needs there be a ground defense force?

[Tada]

Both aproaches has its pros and cons. For Damkina transport stacked aproache would be better - hardpoints on Damkina are short...

Ground defense force - I´m giving it some consideration, but it is not priority at the momement. We haven´t even got a grip on Laythes orbit ...

In final version of Damkina I think about reducing count of radial mounted "probes" from 8 to 6? What you think?

Edited May 5, 2013 by Tada

[Octobomb]

Hmm... Well the probes don't weigh much. I don't really see why you would get rid of them. Also, I think that 'Hive' will probably be very similar to Damkina (sizeish, radial mounts etc.). What do you think about a small station in the same orbit around laythe as the station is, 10km behind or in front? Designed for less laggy storage of ammo and reloading and whatnot whilst keeping part counts down and being close enough to reach the other station easily?

[Tada]

I think I maybe found new dedicated SSTO for the project:

CLICK

[brobel]

Yea those look realy cool

[Octobomb]

That looks really, really cool. Anyway, I'm struggling to build a 'Hive', but I did build a grub - very similar to the one on the hive proto. It is insane: The torque from the probe body keeps it still in under a second, the rcs deorbited me from 80k (lithobraking - aerobrake landings are for sissies) in less than half a tank, yadda yadda yadda:

Edit: Might scrap the Hive. The Damkina has enough room for specialised ammo adapters, which let the ammo hang behind the engines and move the ships forward where the back 4 probes are ?

Edited May 5, 2013 by Octobomb

[Tada]

Gonna be useful unloading torpedoes and loading the onto ships

I´m still waiting till ROFLcopter establish the "Saphire" station above Lythe, than we can move on.

Next big thing coming up to orbit will be THIS massive communication thingy - both above Kerbin and Laythe.

Well, I´ll have to put up launch schedule, because it is gonna be a lot of launches.

[brobel]

Testing new smart rocket designs for a anti-capital ship im working on

The Rocket that did all this is only 4 parts (got every thing up there with hyperedit as you can see even though rocket is quit small im just lazy

Also The frigate That i made is laythe capable(With a good pilot who knows were it could reach)

The defence part of this project is going good

Edited May 5, 2013 by brobel

[Octobomb]

Anti Capship?4Parts? Gimme gimme gimme!

[Tada]

Looks pretty nice I hope it is ready before Laythe departure date, because we don´t wanna go there unprotected How is it going to refuel when it is fully armored? Wouldn´t be switching to metal plates more efficient? Specification calls just for light armor of vital parts...

I did some testing today:

Damkina Proto B with Falcon SSTO (ex-Sparrow by Zombiphylax) after succesfull landing-ascent-docking over Laythe

Damkina Proto C was send to do a close Kerbol fly-by with probe dropping

So far the Damkina class is performing very well. But it´s greatest task lies ahead... It´s first official mission will propably be moving this huge com satelite into orbit of Layhte

[brobel]

wow you put that huge thing together already

And about how much deltaV is used to get to laythe