Bafver Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hi all, I have a small question regarding fuel tanks. I am currently working on a space station and I want to add some fuel tanks to it, maybe 3 orange jumbo tanks or so. But I find getting the tanks into orbit and docked with the station to be quite difficult so I was wondering if there is a way to empty the tanks before launch in order to reduce their weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeshi Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Normally? NoBut I think there's a mod somewhere that adds 'Empty Fuel Tank' parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callmedave Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I havent tried this but, if you had the tanks with an engine on, you can sit on the launch pad, have the engines on around 1/2 or a 1/3 and this will 'drain' the fuel'if you have the release struts, they will hold the rocket while it does this. You can disengage engines by right clicking them, so just use the ones attached to the tanks you want to drain.I havent tried this so really have no idea how well it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bafver Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 I was hoping there would be a way to do it without using mods but I'll see if I can find any mods that could do this for me. Thanks for the quick reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmadmax Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 attach radial decoupler to the tanks you want to drain,add fuel line,fire engines till tanks are emtpy.decouple the drain engines and launcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon_Fodder Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I hope you are not trying to get all 3 up there at once. I had a similar issue trying to get tanks for my re-fueling station. Here are some tips.Burn the fuel during lift off. I designed my launch vehicle to burn the fuel in the tank I planned on using for a station part first. I would refuel it later. Space tug. Even using the fuel I still had an issue getting the tank up to the 110km orbit I wanted with my launch vehicle. So I sent a space tug up then launched the station part into a 75km orbit. I was then able to use the tug to maneuver to the orbit I wanted.In real life ,space companies are generally separated into launch providers (who build and fly launch vehicles) and payload makers. Get yourself a launch provider. Temstar and his Zenith rocket family is my go to launch system builder. http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/24787-0-19-1-Zenith-rocket-family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 attach radial decoupler to the tanks you want to drain,add fuel line,fire engines till tanks are emtpy.decouple the drain engines and launcherYou can just burn and then transfer fuel to boosters. Or simply use the tank as upper stage and drain it while circulating, an 1.25 meter decopler and pipe back to small fuel tank and engine, probe and rcs. Dock tank, disconnect and deorbit the engine stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxPower Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Come on guys, its its really not that hard.I got 37 of the orange jumbo fuel thanks into orbit in one shot, without any addons.Just add a decoupler and a mainsail under some of the fuel tanks, add some fuel lines and strut the thing together good.Decouple engines, that are no longer needed. When you are up there, your tanks will be pretty much empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndlessWaves Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It doesn't make any sense to lift empty tanks, it's a far better idea to design the rocket so those three fuel tanks are used for the final stages of establishing the orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bafver Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Thank you all for you input on this. I have several ideas to try now and will see if it gets any easier to get the tanks up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaneOfPilots Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 This is the "Empty Tanks" mod that Aeshi was talking abouthttp://kerbalspaceprogram.com/18-empty-stock-fuel-tanks-set/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_NL Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It doesn't make any sense to lift empty tanks, it's a far better idea to design the rocket so those three fuel tanks are used for the final stages of establishing the orbit.Indeed. Hauling up empty tanks is a waste of fuel. Better USE the fuel to get it into orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosenkranz Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 goto your parts folder and find the 'launchclamp1' edit the config and add RESOURCE{ name = LiquidFuel amount = 0 maxAmount = 999999999}RESOURCE{ name = Oxidizer amount = 0 maxAmount = 999999999}to the bottom. This will allow you to transfer unwanted fuel from an upper stage tank or whereever to the launch clamp. This is great if for effiency reasons you want to partially or completely drain a tank prior to launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Talon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 goto your parts folder and find the 'launchclamp1' edit the config and add *snip*to the bottom. This will allow you to transfer unwanted fuel from an upper stage tank or whereever to the launch clamp. This is great if for effiency reasons you want to partially or completely drain a tank prior to launch.Fantastic suggestion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundertwonk Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 This may be a tad late by now, but if you press "Alt + Right Mouse Button" on the fuel tank you want to transfer fuel from and do the same keystroke on the tank you want to transfer fuel to, the fuel isn't wasted and the tank gradually becomes lighter on the ascent. Also, you can transfer fuel back into the tank once you reach the station, so you can recover the maximum possible fuel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Old thread is old (like over a year old). Friends don't let friends necro threads.Plus it contains outdated info and should probably be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Yeah, I better close this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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