Guest Jebediah Kerman Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Am I supposed to install this mod over .11 or the beta update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LoSboccacc Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 nice part collections! makes it very enjoyable where a mun rated rocket doesn\'t totally kill your fpses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordid Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I think I\'m going to smush in the sides of the tiny fuel tank, so the new legs fit inside fairings with it. Or I could make bigger fairings, but that might get awkward having that many fairing panels in the list...Actually frenchie16 was right, mounting the legs 45 degrees offset from the fairings allows you to fit them in nicely.Sadly there is no way to get a fairing around the lander engine or to tuck in the legs for a craft where the descent stage uses 2M short tank, but otherwise it looks neat.Well you could put a compressed tank beneath the 2m tank and mount the small legs on that, but that\'d make the lander rather unstable, I would think. Plus there doesn\'t seem to be a combination of parts that wouldn\'t leave a gap between the edge of the 2m tank and the fairing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSilisko Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Am I supposed to install this mod over .11 or the beta update?It will work on both, but only will be full featured in 0.12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarnis Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Well you could put a compressed tank beneath the 2m tank and mount the small legs on that, but that\'d make the lander rather unstable, I would think. Plus there doesn\'t seem to be a combination of parts that wouldn\'t leave a gap between the edge of the 2m tank and the fairing anyway....which would kill the point of using a 2M tank at the descent stage. The primary goal was to get the business end of the descent stage wider so a tall two stage lander wouldn\'t topple over so easily.We really need animated parts and extendable landing legs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSilisko Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 We really need animated parts and extendable landing legs... Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordid Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 ...which would kill the point of using a 2M tank at the descent stage. The primary goal was to get the business end of the descent stage wider so a tall two stage lander wouldn\'t topple over so easily.Really? I started using them because I kept running out of fuel in the descent stage and subsequently either having to jettison it along with the lander legs or smashing into the mun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarnis Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Really? I started using them because I kept running out of fuel in the descent stage and subsequently either having to jettison it along with the lander legs or smashing into the mun.Well, it also has plenty of fuel for anything more than a simple 'land anywhere' trick - a bonus of sorts. 1M tanks could have enough too, but that would mean even taller design if it was two-stage. The 'wide bottom' was the most important aspect.In fact, I\'d love to try how a design with half as tall 2M section for descent stage would work. It would be lighter and would probably mean using upper stage for lunar insertion and descent stage only for the actual landing, but it would be even shorter and easier to keep upright.Could we get a 'pizza box' 2M liquid tank, 50% less fuel, 50% less weight (full and empty), 50% shorter than the current short 2M?(just my ever-present urge to shave weight off the 'payload' to the absolute minimum - not always possible due to the lack of granularity with the parts. In that regard I just love the radial ball-shaped RCS tanks - granular allocation of RCS fuel around the rocket as needed by the mission) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brovine Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Well, I finally managed to land intact on the Mun... Unfortunately, something went slightly wrong in the process. Can you spot it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberion Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Looks like the Mun tipped over on its side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damonjay Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 i only just realised your Side mounted RCS units drain all at once. i didn\'t realise you had added that feature. well done!Do they include both empty and full weight now?it was just a glitch in the game. it appeared like all 35 of my tanks had been used up at one time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordid Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Now that you mention it, I may have encountered that glitch as well. At the time I thought I just lost track, but maybe it was actually a glitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 With the new beta update, my rocket wiggles like a retarded snake when I turn on the ASAS for the vectored thrusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senji Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 With the new beta update, my rocket wiggles like a retarded snake when I turn on the ASAS for the vectored thrusters.Yes, this is expected, because ASAS sucks currently. Either only turn ASAS on for the later stages, or get a tuned ASAS from the pack I uploaded last week (but an ASAS good for a large rocket will be fairly useless on your lander). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvizz Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Yes, ASAS is a mad dog. It needs to take in to account the assets/Rigidity&mass to determine aggressiveness while also slowing down a bit on larger rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvizz Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Managed to get to 100m in 1:17 with Silisko edition. No red Gs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuttle Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 New parts look awesome, lander legs are great but 2 stage rocket seems to be so light that you can easily make two 360 turns in 15 seconds after launch and continue flight. Is it supposed to be like this?Thank you very much for your work, NovaSilisko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I\'ve done some mucking about with this. It lets you put absurd amounts into orbit with ease; the problem I\'ve run into is that I need to strap the rocket together with struts to avoid sway-kills on the pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSilisko Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 I\'ve done some mucking about with this. It lets you put absurd amounts into orbit with ease; the problem I\'ve run into is that I need to strap the rocket together with struts to avoid sway-kills on the pad. Absurd amounts and ease should not go together :C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanosint Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 How well does this mix with .12? :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Absurd amounts and ease should not go together :CI stage-and-a-halfed damn near fourty mass and could easily have done more under the constraints of TWR and fuel capacity (but not with rocket wobble). Hit orbit with two and a half of the large tanks left and a three-stage lander on top.EDIT: As a side note, fairings that act as an adapter to the 1m wide parts, like the pod, would rock socks. Or miniature ones for the small lander engines, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiyel Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 How well does this mix with .12? :3PERFECTLY.My first Mun landing was done with this parts pack. Hell, at this point, all but ONE of my landings was performed thus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSilisko Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 I stage-and-a-halfed damn near fourty mass and could easily have done more under the constraints of TWR and fuel capacity (but not with rocket wobble). Hit orbit with two and a half of the large tanks left and a three-stage lander on top.EDIT: As a side note, fairings that act as an adapter to the 1m wide parts, like the pod, would rock socks. Or miniature ones for the small lander engines, either way.Nnngh. I don\'t want this to be possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiyel Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I wouldn\'t worry overmuch, Foamy\'s constructions tend to be... well... INSANE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolRawley Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Yeah, foamy\'s rockets look like Jenga Incarnate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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