Jivaii Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 that is a rocket, not a SSTOSSTOSingle Stage Take Off.Not "plane that can go into space"He fulfilled the requirement of being a single stage getting into orbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissSh0t Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 SSTOSingle Stage Take Off.Not "plane that can go into space"He fulfilled the requirement of being a single stage getting into orbit.SSTO stands for Single Stage To Orbit.So as long as it can.1. Get To Orbit.2. Has A Single Stage.It can be posted in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzan Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Big Red is a fun design concept!Here's my take on it. Not my most efficient craft ever, but I'm used to building smaller scale planes rather than larger ones. VTOL using 6 basic jet engines. 7 Turbojets for climbing. I've got a pic in the album that shows all of them on at the same time briefly hehehe.It actually flies really well in atmosphere. Coming in for landing was easy to maneuver and whatnot. I made two landing passes. Both were successful, but I think the Kermans appreciate the 2nd landing a little more than the first. Sorry for the night pics!Javascript is disabled. View full albumI'd guess this thing could make it to Laythe and fly around. I probably won't get around to trying it though because flying these big guys is murder on my comp. Makes for a great overkill SSTO though! Edited September 28, 2013 by Cruzan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moar Boosters Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It was a single stage to orbit rocket.. hahahaha.He wont be able to land it though..xDI might be able to. Jebediah is going to ride the next version himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissSh0t Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 @ CruzanNow that was a really cool Big Red~Very compact design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzan Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 @ CruzanNow that was a really cool Big Red~Very compact design. thanksAesthetically I don't like the ginormous planes that are really wide with a crazy amount of wings. Making my planes VTOL solves that problem and lets me keep the designs compact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivaii Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 SSTO stands for Single Stage To Orbit.So as long as it can.1. Get To Orbit.2. Has A Single Stage.It can be posted in this thread.Yea, sure. SSTO doesn't include the word "land" in it, so landing is not a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissSh0t Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Why land when you can just jump out?Landing is over rated anyway. Jumping out is what all the cool kids do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa1983 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I am so temped to make a new craft that can circularize an orbit on jet engines again *____*The fastest I've gone is 2,200 on jet engines in atmosphere : >4 Jet Engines isn't enough for this craft... I kept having to use the rocket engines to bump up my speed.. but once I got to 20km the jet engines did very good..How heavy is it? I could do 2040m/s at almost 70 tons with 4 turbojets at 33km altitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissSh0t Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 How heavy is it? I could do 2040m/s at almost 70 tons with 4 turbojets at 33km altitude.it was 87 tons when it got to orbit.. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 http://youtu.be/tvq0lxiI_zU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_NL Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 [url=]http://youtu.be/tvq0lxiI_zUA bit over-sized to bring a single Kerbal to orbit. Too bad he's stranded as you have no way to bring him back down, you ran out of electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Is there some way I can put you in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzan Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 A bit over-sized to bring a single Kerbal to orbit. Too bad he's stranded as you have no way to bring him back down, you ran out of electricity.I don't think over-sized or over-kill are words that exist when it comes to KSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissSh0t Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 3 Big Reds.... now that... is cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I am pretty sure it isn't obvious, but this is a WIP of trying to get an orange tank's worth of fuel to orbit, for a station, probe, or what have you. Thanks for the positive feedback :-)The jets only have 2 intakes each, that's gonna get boosted to my customary 10 each, and I am gonna increase the main wing area, and for looks, lengthen the fuselage. I have several concurrent Kerbal stocks crafts in progress, so sometimes things get slow on one particular one. Edited September 29, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihmawrtl Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 My SSTOs;4 man1 man, long range2 man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Something I built yesterday and sent off to the other SSI.Ironically enough, no symmetry was used on this craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzan Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 My SSTOs;4 manIs this a VTOL as well since it doesn't have wings or does it start out vertically (on its tail)? I'd like to see more pics of this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So, I partially caved to air hogging, much as I was reluctant to go to that standard, I have. but even with clipping which unrealistically irks me, I still can't get these mythical 32km, 2100m/s perfect ascent profiles you guys do. Best I could do was 27km. Flamed out before I could reach top speed. Was climbing at less than 10m/s and doing over 1850 when i had to kick rockets.Even with that, no joy. Please enlighten me, why can't I make these profiles. I have been told it can be done even without air hogging so why can't I make it work damnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcdrifter13 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 On that one I would move two lv-t30s to the inner set of structural hard points and then stack the jet engine on top of each other so you can maintain full throttle without rick of a flat spin when one runs out. The one I linked in your other thread was made the same way and you actually could change out the structural for more rocket fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You keep suggesting the same thing I keep avoiding. I basically flat out refuse to clip engines like that. Won't do it. ALso, it can't hold speed on just two engines. I tried that using dynamic warp to freeze time and then shutting down the outer pair. It can't hold the speed it needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcdrifter13 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 OK thats fine lol. Do you have a craft for that one, I would like to try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_BVD9gAcd6BUlJlLWsta1R3WFU/https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_BVD9gAcd6BYXlYUUNqWmRURXc/Give both of these a go.EDIT: first one is the fast one, second one is more brute force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzan Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) That Dagger of yours shouldn't have any problems if you hog it. I'll test it out too.UPDATE: Ya, I dont think the Dagger's download link is up to date as it only 2 intakes per jet engine. I stripped off the radials, and went to a ratio of 4 intakes per jet. Was able to climb and reach 2100 m/s surface velocity before switching to my rockets.I toggled off two of the jets once i had dipped below half throttle.I'm not sure if you changed it, but the action groups for that craft were a little weird. Not too sure where your problems are coming from, but try this profile, which is what I just used for the Dagger:1. Start climbing at 60 degrees.2. Once you start to losing a lot of intake air, nose down to 30 degrees.3. Level off at about 0.6 units of intake air. You can stay at full throttle until you hit about .45 units of intake.4. Begin throttling back to avoid flaming out. This takes experience to know how much you need to throttle back, but this is the money zone right here so work on nailing it down.5. Once you dip below half throttle, toggle off two of your jets. Throttle back up to 100% if you can.6. Cruuuuuiiiiissseeeee...... Keep managing your throttle to avoid flaming out.What kind of a mission is this craft designed for? If it's just an orbital rendezvous then you have a lot more rocket fuel than you need imo. Edited September 30, 2013 by Cruzan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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