Just for fluffy bunnies and giggles.....

[1096bimu]

Somebody "designed" an Eve return rocket purely on paper, with the mass, fuel, dv of each stage planned out but apparently doesn't have time to test it. I think he did all the calculations at work or something. Well since it does seem to have taken a lot of work for the math, I decided to put his design to the test, and the result was quite hilarious.

Turns out that his math worked out quite well, the mass and dv of each stage were accurate. However there was no consideration on some of the problems on practicality. For example, a first stage with 62 orange tanks and 62 mainsail engines. Another example is that the Eve lander stage is 400 tones, even if I didn't make it all vertical you still won't be able to land it safely.

EDIT:

I did some improvements over that crazy simple translation. This one is more compact and has some asparagus staging incorporated. It is obviously more stable and has improved Delta V.

Edited June 8, 2013 by 1096bimu

[CosmicX1]

Well that monstrosity is hilarious

Moar struts? Or would they upset all those precise and careful calculations?

[Nao]

I envy the yellowness of the clock. How much parts and struts is this?

Also only 400 tonns with so many engines? I've launched 300t on only 25 mainsails, it feels like this has way too much thrust ... is Jeb on your design team?

edit: thought about that a little, and i wouldn't be surprised if the idea of one fuel tank for stack for the first stage was not the need of thrust but to make things not explode . Nice idea da ze! Itadaki!

Still impressive work! GJ

Edited June 8, 2013 by Nao

[Scotius]

How did this monstrosity fit on launchpad? It must have been rubber-banding like crazy

[ZedNova]

I assume these are the only frames you got before your game crashed.

[LeonG17]

I see struts still need to be factored in then.

[SpaceSphereOfDeath]

DEAR GAWD

honestly, I think you could do a lot smaller by assembling one in orbit IMO.

still, WHY?

[Typhor]

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Probably vastly inefficient, with a good level of overkill mixed in, but amzing all the same.

[Ford_Prefect]

More Struts. Definitely.

[1096bimu]

I envy the yellowness of the clock. How much parts and struts is this?

Also only 400 tonns with so many engines? I've launched 300t on only 25 mainsails, it feels like this has way too much thrust ... is Jeb on your design team?

edit: thought about that a little, and i wouldn't be surprised if the idea of one fuel tank for stack for the first stage was not the need of thrust but to make things not explode . Nice idea da ze! Itadaki!

Still impressive work! GJ

Well the landing stage is 400 tones, there's also a 400 tone transfer stage. So if I had enough struts, it would've delivered over 800 tone to LKO.

[spudcosmic]

I'm pretty sure an Eve lander and return doesn't have to be 400 tons. There was a post somewhere showing someone's lander that looked only about 50 tons.

[PaleoGamer]

And I thought I used too many boosters...

Edited June 10, 2013 by PaleoGamer

[SoldierHair]

That's pure Kerbal engineering.You never have enough fuel and/or engines.

Really , really awesome.

[RocketPilot573]

Over four-thousand-five-hundred TONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all for only ONE Kerbal.

[SoldierHair]

One very brave Kerbal.

[Voidryder]

Clearly these should replace the stock orbiter and lander that Squad includes in the game.

[DisarmingBaton5]

I assume these are the only frames you got before your game crashed.

Or computer melted

[numerobis]

I do that all the time: design the *perfect* spacecraft, build it in the VAB, have it bend itself into knots on the launch pad.

[Pontiac]

I found this bad boy online somewhere. I feel guilty for using it for a simple capsule though but Jeb insisted.

[NeoMorph]

You need that Orion mod. Not the NASA spaceship... the one where you take a thick metal plate and then fire nukes underneath it. THAT would get you out of Eve orbit....

Or maybe Kerbal Attachment System with a carbon nanotube rope down from orbit.

But that many engines... How many gees does it push.... do you get squashed Kerbals?

[Mr_Duke]

Did that lag?

[Panichio]

~snip~

Just for future reference so you don't get in trouble, the moderators don't like it when people post a simple reaction picture.

To OP: Can we have some more updates on this? Is it possible to actually get this to Eve? Lastly, you should PM the link of this thread to the guy who did all this math if you haven't already. He would enjoy this the most.

[MR4Y]

Over four-thousand-five-hundred TONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all for only ONE Kerbal.

I like how much this is not a really big number in real life. The Saturn V rocket weights 2,800 tons.

[NeoMorph]

One thing I have always wondered.... What is the Kethane like on Eve. Is there anywhere that you can mine enough for a reasonable sized rocket. Also, what about a mid-air launch? Use one of those helium airship things to lift you up and then fire your engines when you hit max altitude. These ones... http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/hooligan-labs-airship-parts-and-plugin/.

I've got soooooo many ideas that at least one of them should work without resorting to more engines than god has on his hot-rod.

[leax256]

One thing I have always wondered.... What is the Kethane like on Eve. Is there anywhere that you can mine enough for a reasonable sized rocket. Also, what about a mid-air launch? Use one of those helium airship things to lift you up and then fire your engines when you hit max altitude...

Contemplating the effectiveness of an Eve mining mission I took the time try and make an eve launch rocket. the airship mod actually works very well for what you have suggested.