[1.2] Procedural Fairings 3.20 (November 8)

[Guest]

I have a feature idea. How about a way to control the fairing height? If the fairing would clip a part of the rocket, the nose would be cut off, for example so you could have the command pod and it's LES sticking out of the fairing.

[e-dog]

I have a feature idea. How about a way to control the fairing height? If the fairing would clip a part of the rocket, the nose would be cut off, for example so you could have the command pod and it's LES sticking out of the fairing.

That can already be done by using a second flipped-over base to limit the fairing height, so that inline fairings are created between two bases.

[Starwaster]

Oh, gawd. Now, I feel like and idiot. LOL

Psssh, I've done much worse. I once accidentally turned a probe core upside down and then built an airship probe (using Hooligan's airship mod) and then I custom built a lifter to take it into orbit and thence to Eve.

I could not figure out why the damned thing would not fly properly. I tried it on manual and I tried giving the job to MechJeb. MechJeb took the rocket a few hundred meters into the air and then promptly turned it around and tried to fly it into the ground. First I was sure that my lifter was flawed because I had wobble so I strutted it and strutted it and rebuilt parts of it. OVER AND OVER again for (I kid you not) TWO REAL LIFE DAYS.

Finally I was convinced that the problem must be the airship mod. I mean, it was obviously exerting some weird torque on my ship right??? RIGHT??? Then I tried mechjeb again but this time I watched the inputs and I realized that it was flying into the ground because MechJeb was DECIDING to fly the ship into the ground. I tore the damn ship apart piece by piece until I got to the probe core. Sure enough, the sucker was upside down.

[e-dog]

I've updated the tutorial with 0.21 screenshots, inline fairings and other stuff.

[Tassyr]

That can be modded in the cfg:

MODEL

{

model = Keramzit/ProceduralFairings/baseRingModel

scale = 2.3, 1.15, 2.3

// scale = 2.3, 2.3, 2.3

}

...

// node_stack_top = 0.0, 0.46, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0

node_stack_top = 0.0, 0.23, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0

...

mass = 0.1

So before I completely bork my game up- what exactly would EDIT? I don't really know how to edit the scale bits there. I've never tried...

(For those of you wondering- trying to make the fairing bases slimmer vertically, as right now they're slightly too large and get in the way )

[Starwaster]

So before I completely bork my game up- what exactly would EDIT? I don't really know how to edit the scale bits there. I've never tried...

(For those of you wondering- trying to make the fairing bases slimmer vertically, as right now they're slightly too large and get in the way )

Each part is defined by a *.cfg file. Usually it's named part.cfg but it can be called anything. Go into your KSP_win\GameData\Keramzit\ProceduralFairings\ directory

Look for a section in each *.cfg like rkman quoted above

(if you just want to do the rings they are all named things like baseRing1_25.cfg (the 1.25m base ring is what that file name is saying)

In the case he quoted it USED to be scale = 2.3, 2.3, 2.3 but he commented that out by putting // in front of it and replaced it with a line that says scale = 2.3, 1.15, 2.3

Which means that he changed the Y scale (because Y is up in this game) from 2.3 to 1.15 so he basically just cut it in half.

Which, I did not realize scale accepted XYZ values... and I looked in those files but I wasn't looking for THAT so I didn't see it. Hmmmmm. Gonna try that now.

btw if you have module manager you don't HAVE to edit anything. Instead of editing the file you can make a cfg file that applies a patch during loading without altering any original files.

Looks like he changed the 2.5 meter ring SO if you have modulemanager you can do THIS instead:

@PART[KzProcFairingBaseRing2_5]
{
	@MODEL
	{
		@scale = 2.3, 1.15, 2.3
	}
}

Which would achieve the same thing without actually changing any files so if you screw something up it's as easy as deleting the cfg file that you made to patch. (cfg files can usually be anywhere in the GameData folder and they'll get executed by KSP when it loads)

[Tassyr]

Each part is defined by a *.cfg file. Usually it's named part.cfg but it can be called anything. Go into your KSP_win\GameData\Keramzit\ProceduralFairings\ directory

Look for a section in each *.cfg like rkman quoted above

(if you just want to do the rings they are all named things like baseRing1_25.cfg (the 1.25m base ring is what that file name is saying)

In the case he quoted it USED to be scale = 2.3, 2.3, 2.3 but he commented that out by putting // in front of it and replaced it with a line that says scale = 2.3, 1.15, 2.3

Which means that he changed the Y scale (because Y is up in this game) from 2.3 to 1.15 so he basically just cut it in half.

Which, I did not realize scale accepted XYZ values... and I looked in those files but I wasn't looking for THAT so I didn't see it. Hmmmmm. Gonna try that now.

btw if you have module manager you don't HAVE to edit anything. Instead of editing the file you can make a cfg file that applies a patch during loading without altering any original files.

Looks like he changed the 2.5 meter ring SO if you have modulemanager you can do THIS instead:

@PART[KzProcFairingBaseRing2_5]
{
	@MODEL
	{
		@scale = 2.3, 1.15, 2.3
	}
}

Which would achieve the same thing without actually changing any files so if you screw something up it's as easy as deleting the cfg file that you made to patch. (cfg files can usually be anywhere in the GameData folder and they'll get executed by KSP when it loads)

Catch; this doesn't move the NODE. Trying different things to see what to do. >.<

[Starwaster]

Catch; this doesn't move the NODE. Trying different things to see what to do. >.<

There's only two answers. One, manually adjust the nodes. That's not hard.

Answer 2, try scaling with two scale calls. The first one would be scale 1.15 (<--- This goes OUTSIDE the MODEL node in the config file that should scale the node)(again going by the example cited previously) Not sure what the second would be.... try scale 2, 1, 2 or scale 2.3, 1, 2.3

Too late for me to try it myself now, going back to bed

Edited August 11, 2013 by Starwaster
correction

[m1919]

Any chance of something like simple procedural nosecones in the future? Similar to procedural fairings, but one piece only. They'd have the option of movable top and bottom attachment nodes so we can build things like custom boost protective covers for command pod launch escape systems similar to those used on the Saturn V, Soyuz or planned SLS.

[e-dog]

Any chance of something like simple procedural nosecones in the future? Similar to procedural fairings, but one piece only. They'd have the option of movable top and bottom attachment nodes so we can build things like custom boost protective covers for command pod launch escape systems similar to those used on the Saturn V, Soyuz or planned SLS.

Do you want something like these

http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/NCS_Adapter

http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Rockomax_Brand_Adapter

but procedural?

Or do you want them hollow? Or what?

[m1919]

Do you want something like these

http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/NCS_Adapter

http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Rockomax_Brand_Adapter

but procedural?

Or do you want them hollow? Or what?

It would be a hollow structure that could be adjusted to conform to the shape of a command pod and have a decoupler so that it could be jettisoned once the vehicle reaches orbit.

The Saturn cover is an almost perfect cone shape.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NfpO7HD4KPA/TLq0QCpKbNI/AAAAAAAAABg/4G8MXiW5LK4/s1600/s168.gif

The Orion vehicle for the SLS is more a bowl shape, but the basic design is the same.

http://www.wpclipart.com/space/ships/Orion/orion_launch_abort_system.jpg

I believe the Soyuz design covers the entirety of the command module and habitation module.

http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/shrouds.gif

Edited August 11, 2013 by m1919

[e-dog]

I see. Yes, that's possible.

[tommaster]

Sorry if this was asked before in here, but I could not find it on a quick search.

Sometimes I seem to have "ghost stages" when I try to launch stuff with procedural fairings. More simply, the staging is screwed. Even if it's obviously set up correctly in VAB, whenever I press space during launch the first time, something invisible detaches... next space will detach the fairings even if they are on top in staging.

When I start a new build from scratch, it usually works fine. but a reload of the same design later may cause same problems. Any ideas?

[e-dog]

Post a .craft file or a saved game and I'll try to investigate it if it'll happen on my computer too.

[tommaster]

hmm, thanks for the offer.. but i should make an "example craft" first, with no other mods (current one uses also ST escape capsule mod). Hmm actually, THAT could be the reason, I will look into this

Because it used to work fine for me. But the escape capsule has an internal decoupler, this in combination with proc. fairings may confuse things up.

EDIT: Ah, no i found one without any other addons, will add a craft file in a sec.

Here is the craft file:

http://pastebin.com/VSY3rNzz

(save content as foobar.craft)

should only use stock 0.21 and procedural fairings

Edited August 12, 2013 by tommaster

[tommaster]

Here's another one, same problem:

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[Gristle]

Procedural Cargo Bay Doors

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Edited August 12, 2013 by Gristle

[Starwaster]

Procedural Cargo Bay Doors

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uhm HOW???

And what is that railing looking thing in the first few pictures? Attached near the top?

[NoMrBond]

uhm HOW???

And what is that railing looking thing in the first few pictures? Attached near the top?

Maybe the new little hinges Sirkut was posting up (updated Infernal Robotics)?

[Gristle]

uhm HOW???

And what is that railing looking thing in the first few pictures? Attached near the top?

I first created the inline fairings using Kerazmit's mod. I noticed that if you pulled off the fairings they kept their shape. I then removed the fairing bases from the model and reattached the procedural fairings using Cubic Octagonal Struts and Damned Robotics Door hinges. I was disappointed after my first trial launch when I returned to the VAB and fairings looked as if they had reverted to their shape out of the toolbox, but then was delighted they returned to their procedural shape when launched.

The rail thing is JonzCo Elevator. http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/45249-WIP-Foldaway-Elevator-JonzCo-Mobility-Equipment

Maybe the new little hinges Sirkut was posting up (updated Infernal Robotics)?

Have been waiting for those. Sirkut just released them. I'll probably redo this using the MSI parts instead of the DR ones even though the DR hinges work fine for this application.

[codepoet]

I have a feature idea. How about a way to control the fairing height? If the fairing would clip a part of the rocket, the nose would be cut off, for example so you could have the command pod and it's LES sticking out of the fairing.

I have been doing some work along these lines with somthing I call "float nodes" whereby you can radially attach parts to the base or top of the stack (ie as you would to create an engine cluster) and the top or bottom stack node is procedurally moved up or down to "float" to allow the stack to continue depending on the size of the radially attached parts. The idea is that you can use it to create fairings for a clustered engine compartment. If anyone is interested let me know and I can send you something to play with.

[DreadPirateLynx]

Having seen this mod, I began to wonder if animated procedural cargo bays are possible.

[Dermeister]

I love this mod but i built a mini plane to put inside the fairing on top of a rocket and i nottice the control surfaces are affectign rocket flight... is it just me or if control surfaces are in a fairing they have no wind hitting o nthem so they are innafective? my question is.. will this mod ever simulate the fact that objects are inside and cant affect flight with control surfaces? Or is that somthing that KSP is planning to add?

[Ralathon]

I love this mod but i built a mini plane to put inside the fairing on top of a rocket and i nottice the control surfaces are affectign rocket flight... is it just me or if control surfaces are in a fairing they have no wind hitting o nthem so they are innafective? my question is.. will this mod ever simulate the fact that objects are inside and cant affect flight with control surfaces? Or is that somthing that KSP is planning to add?

Those work for the same reason infiniglide works. Control surfaces work via magic forces, not the relative airflow.

[sidew]

Is possible to have a mixed version of fairing, the top part is ogival or egg-shaped and the bottom part is conic, like some large KW fairings?