geb Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 There have been some other elements mentioned, though these have probably abandoned for something else now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragosnat Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I think Kethane isa composit matterial? Er... Think that is the term used? Simliar to what H2O represents if any of you remember your chemistry. And those who have yet to take it. Go ahead and find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratoroc Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 yeah kethane is a complex hydrocarbon. Or I suppose propelokerbon is the correct term. And it would need to be a rather complex compound to warrant extra-planetary mining operations.I'm gonna guess that Metaxium is iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sma Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Obviously we don't make spaceship parts out fo the same elements as fuels so we know nothing about those elements.I don't know...sometimes I wonder, especially when watching the twitch streams from some of the new people and/or their posts on reddit. Also how easily some parts explode sometimes makes me wonder. Aside from that, I've always gotten the impression that Kethane = Methane in real life, but thats just me. Not sure how many things methane can be converted into though, but its symbol is CH4, or one carbon four hydrogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) From what I can tell, the RL analogs are...Propellium = Hydrogen Liquid Fuel = Liquid HydrogenOxium = Oxygen Oxidiser = Liquid OxygenNitronite = NitrogenBlutonium = Plutonium or UraniumZeonium = XenonHexagen = ....?I'm not surprised they are making changes to resources from that chart. One converter, one drill type, just use air intakes would be fine. I don't see a point to Hexagen either.I I don't like the idea of matching them up to real world analogs, Liquid fuel doesn't act like hydrogen, hydrogen doesn't make an equally good jet fuel as rocket fuel, it doesn't sit stable in a tank for years and years, propellium does so obviously propellium is it's own thing. Appearently Propellium even has a stable compound that's liquid in eve's enviroment. There have been some other elements mentioned, though these have probably abandoned for something else now.oooo, thanks I'd forgot those, they might have been changed by now but like above they're all we have for now, I"m including them.I don't know...sometimes I wonder, especially when watching the twitch streams from some of the new people and/or their posts on reddit. Also how easily some parts explode sometimes makes me wonder. Aside from that, I've always gotten the impression that Kethane = Methane in real life, but thats just me. Not sure how many things methane can be converted into though, but its symbol is CH4, or one carbon four hydrogen.Well, if Kethane is CH4 or KbPr4 1 Kerbon 4 Propellium it's still not able to be converted to Xenon or Monopropellant, or even Oxiderzer, so Kethane is still magic and shouldn't be included. Edited July 18, 2013 by Moon Goddess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promii Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 KSP "Liquid Fuel" seems closer to RP-1 (Kerosene) than Hydrogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sof Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 As of now, you're just assigning random words, which may or may not be actual Kerbal elements into a grid that vaguely resemmbles our periodic table. The real periodic table isn't set out in that way for fun. The periods denote trends in chemical reactivity, and we have no way to know or test how the kerbal analogues behave. It is pointless to stick these into random boxes for no reason. It has already been said before that the Kerbal "elements" are not analogous to real elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Oh I know, doing the table was just for fun... though I'm not doing random words they are all Squad's words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MASMC Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Well, I would say you are missing all the ground elements. What would each planet be made of... IDEA! Thake each planet name, and add "ium" to the end! EXAPMLE: "Kerbanium" "ium" is prononced: ee-um. WHAT I CAN REMEBER: SOLAR (Sun) KERBANIUM (Kerban) DRESIUM (Dres) DUNIUM (Dune) MORE TO COME: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntPhoenix Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 you guys are forgetting testium. could it occupy a niche on the table similar to irl technetium? just like its earth equivalent, it was the first element made artificially (by devs/kerbal scientists). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FITorion Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I remember something about simplifying that chart.I think they were going to gather the processing stuff together into one part of various sizes. Not sure if they were going to downsize on the number or resources... I think they were. Down to like 2 or 3. Maybe they were just going to do that for the initial implementation and add more complexity later. I don't know. This is all just kinda vague recollections that I can't recall the source of... maybe one or more of the twitch videos. This was all just before the forum crash and the announcement that resources would not be in .20 and that they were shifting focus to career mode and so not to expect them too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I remember something about simplifying that chart.I think they were going to gather the processing stuff together into one part of various sizes. Not sure if they were going to downsize on the number or resources... I think they were. Down to like 2 or 3. Maybe they were just going to do that for the initial implementation and add more complexity later. I don't know. This is all just kinda vague recollections that I can't recall the source of... maybe one or more of the twitch videos. This was all just before the forum crash and the announcement that resources would not be in .20 and that they were shifting focus to career mode and so not to expect them too soon.I can understand the processing down to a few parts for ease of gameplay but if they strip the resources down to simply a Kethane clone I'm gonna be upset. I understand it's a game not a simulation and it's simplified for gameplay but there's a difference between that and magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCKinnison Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 If Kethane can be extracted in usable amounts from Kerbals, it's obviously a full CHON-equivalent compound that makes up organic life. Since it's found on airless bodies, it would seem to have no direct analogue IRL. Xenon/Zeonium is the only compound that cannot be EASILY accounted for... but we're still dealing with a completely fictional universe. When and if Kethane enters the base game, it does. If it remains a mod, *shrug*.The basic method of scanning for and extracting resources that Kethane uses is sound. I do agree it's a bit of a "wonder compound"... but it's not drastically OP. After all, if you can scan for it, it's a fairly small investment of time to extend the scanning to other resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerbMav Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 One single resource would be a bit to few, I agree.But anything more then 3-5 would get "worky" - although remembering the X series ... hmmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4v Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The basic method of scanning for and extracting resources that Kethane uses is sound. I do agree it's a bit of a "wonder compound"... but it's not drastically OP. After all, if you can scan for it, it's a fairly small investment of time to extend the scanning to other resources.I don't like Kethane not because is a "magic compound" but because it dumbs down gameplay a lot, I mean, kethane is all you need for everything and the strategy is the same for every planet: if you want oxidizer it doesn't matter if you're in the Mun or Laythe, you do the same thing.Still one resource is better than none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-Bit Kerbal Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 What about krakenium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerodynamic Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, 8-Bit Kerbal said: What about krakenium? Please don't necropost. This post is over 4 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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